unity225 said:

how arrogant. i find it funny when people claim to do no wrong and have a better chance than any other to get into the kingdom. should that not be up to God to determine? i'm not religious but i try to do what is right, and i am at the mercy of what happens after i die.

like i said. lots of folks gonna be real surprised.
[Edited 11/22/08 14:45pm]

luv4u said:

I'd like to think so too, but the longer he leaves it without official statement, the longer he seems happy for the quotes to stay in the public domain unchallenged.

If the content of this interview doesn't bother him, even though he knows it's supposedly full of misquotes, then that's pretty much as bad as saying the things in the first place.

luv4u said:

So do I.

Haystack said:

Prince is not the only person in the public eye to do this though. I was watching an interview with the English guy that made The Office and he said when he was asked by some stupid reporter "If u're house was on fire what three things would u save?" He told her something like " The cat, the dog...and one of the twins"
Then when another reporter interviewd him he was asked" What are the twins names?"

He dosent even have kids

He already lost me with the websherriff shit so this doesn't move any numbers over here

chillichocaholic said:

I would totally make a career of fucking with peoples minds if I was famous

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

THAT incident was enough to make me Prince's new enemy for a belief moment. But instead, I stay away from THIS forum for a couple of months and put more attention to Music:Non-Prince & P&R.

TonyVanDam said:

I never come here to praise him because he doesn't do anything anymore worth praising.

chillichocaholic said:

I'm sure if you were drunk and had no previous knowledge of comedy and pretty much laughed at anything whatsoever, that must have been hilarious to hear of. Not quite working out how this links to Prince's alleged faux-pas.

Haystack said:

Im reffering to the fact that people are not sure whether he actually said what he did about gay people...
What I am suggesting is that sometimes people say things to deliberately throw someone off I know I would
It was just a thought...and just so u know I don't drink

Oh...and I might also add that if Prince really did say that, and meant what he said...he needs a slap
[Edited 11/22/08 15:46pm]

wonder505 said:

Of course its upto God, because its Gods kingdom but what i ment was if someone follows what God has set out for them in the bible its more likely for that person to get into the kingdom than someone who doest because there will be nothing holding that person back. I don't know if i will be in the kingdom or not, at the end of the day its up to God. I know i am not perfect and no one is, but I try my best and as long as you try your best thats all you can do and thats all that God asks of you right?

Since Prince has alot of gay following, this statement will definitely alienate gay groups.

But more importantly what's wrong with disagreing w/ gay marriage?
Most people disagree with gay marriage because it's against their religious view or biological view. It has nothing to do w/ being biggots. It has to do with having common sense. I dont dislike gay people and support their individual rights. But marriage is between men and women.

Liberals can never fully win over the public support in the end.
They always resort to legal law suit to change. Just watch.

unity225 said:

Of course now any attempt at having a conversation about this is now going to bring out the Jesus zombies. This isn't a conversation about how YOU interpret the bible, or whether YOU will get into heaven, honey. Nor it is a forum to discus what biblical literalists think of homosexuals. The damage that christians have done to people and societies throughout history needs to be discussed more, if anything.

The thing about Prince's refutation of the New Yorker article is that he didn't refute anything specifically. Infact, he did not even make a statement himself! He merely got one of his people to make a statement that he was misquoted and that they were upset about it. There was no attempt to say specifically that he didn't make that anti-gay statement.

I was pretty sore over the anti-semitism and religious based sexism (Man under god, women and dogs under man) in the Rainbow Children. I was sore reading what went down with the Revolution reunion regarding Wendy and Lisa when he told them they'd have to renounce their homosexuality in a press statement...I've been dissapointed by alot of Prince's high horse narcisstic morality. His new-found celibacy is laughable. If he was a man in his mid 20s he sure as fuck wouldn't be lauding celibacy as the way to god. And when he was in his 20s he didn't.

I think he's a raging hypocrite. I'm from MPLS. In the late 70s Prince went to gay bars, had at least one boyfriend that I have heard of, and everyone thought he was gay.

I've been a Prince fan since I was 11 years old. Has he lost me? Sort of. I mean his music is tame now, and his religious and hyperdrive nuevo riche thing makes HIM more and more difficult to enjoy.

He's losing me in stages. Indeed, if it wasn't for bitorrent and Direct client and the fact that I finally found the stash of golden era Revolution bootlegs, I would have lost interest long ago, I think.

The deeper he gets into his conservative christian bullshit, the more I feel like we've lost Prince.

It's tragic. It feels really sad.

JudasLChrist said:

He's hypocrite?? maybe he has a gay boyfriend. But through religion, he has changed and sees what's right from wrong. It's called religious view whether you believe or not. You should perhaps respect those who believe in bible and respect other side of the view.

You call that christian bullshit????? Your bias towards christian view is very obvious. so being open minded means is to adapt liberal views of yours???

ratt said:

What's wrong with it? It's discriminatory! It makes a separate class for gay people! I have gay foster parents and they are the foundation of my life. I bounced around in foster care for 9 years before they took me in. They have been married for 20 years, and the work they have done has all been about justice and service. How dare ANYONE suggest that my foster parents have to live by an entirely separate set of laws! My foster parents are not second class citizens!

We Americans live under secular government that protects all classes of people, including those with varying religious views. You are free to have whatever fucking religion you want, but you are not free to force your religious views onto the state.

And damn right we are taking Prop 8 to court! And we are going to WIN, motherfucker! Because the constitution exists to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority! EQUAL TREATMENT UNDER THE LAW is justice! If you, as a christian, can't hang with that I suggest you open your fucking bible and read the words of Jesus Christ:

Luke 6:31


Matthew 22:21


Separation of church and state right there, buddy.

ratt said:

Well, my bias against Christians comes from having been a Christian. If I had my way, I'd throw the Christians in the fucking ovens. They can take their hypocrisy and child molestation and fucking burn in hell for all I care.

But here's the difference. I have never worked politically against christians or tried to pass or bring a ballot initiative against them. I am perfectly happy to stay out of their lives if they stay out of mine. It doesn't seem like they are willing grant me and my family and my friends the same respect.

wonder505 said:

We are born into sin and the awareness of it.
And then there are two roads presented 2 each person.
The broad road where U remain a sinner for selfish desires, and the narrow road that sacrifices sin for being thankful that U were given breath.
The sea was parted. If history repeats itself...sinners will go one way and those that turned away from sin the other.

Tame said:

Very well said tame

LizaWoman08 said:

God you people suck. This should be the real thread: Are all we have left for Prince fans are Jesus Zombies?

unity225 said:

Everyone is a sinner and even when u come to the realization that u are a sinner, you will still keep sinning because we are human. We try to do what is right but we all come up short, and yes sometimes we even do it on purpose. Have you ever told a lie and knew you were telling a lie, and knew it was wrong but did it anyway, and later you felt convicted for what you did? I have done that before, I try not to but I am not perfect and mess up. I believe in my heart that you can be forgiven for those things.

Can somebody PLEASE fill me in???

LizaWoman08 said:

I do believe that we will fall, however if U have a conscience about it and are willing 2 confess that at least that contains guilt...Some people deliberately continue on without caring.

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wonder505 said:

Not particularly true at all. You can follow every law and scripture to the T, you can have the entire bible memorized verse for verse, do all these wonderful "good deeds" for people, pray, fast, and even look holy, and that doesn't mean you are going to get into God's kingdom. God looks at your heart and what comes out of your mouth. You will be judged by what comes out of your mouth, because what comes from a man's mouth overflows from his heart. The question is, is the Word of God written on your heart? Do you truely know the Almighty and not just words on a page? All I'm saying is God has given us laws in the bible to follow but if they are not written on your heart it doesn't mean anything, its just religion. Even Paul said, "If I lack love, I have nothing"

Tame said:

and through that process of going down the path of those that turned away from sin I am humbled enough to not think that i got my foot in the door over anyone. i do what is right because it's the right thing to do, not only because i'm trying to get in God's kingdom, that journey is up to God when my time comes, until then i don't focus or think about it.

JudasLChrist said:

What's wrong with what I believe?

Speaking for myself, I am still a Prince fan.

well, i dont think this one thing, nobody really cares what Prince thinks anyway, its a lot of things, his new music stinks, changing the lyrics to his good music, and he said he would stop performing the hits live (nobody believes this as this is the reason people come to his concerts)

His statement will not make him loose alot his fans, but he is working on it even as we speak.

LiquidGold said:

Just yet another thread (like so many this week) that starts off ok and wit a smile, then spirals downward quickly, filled wit religious/spiritual/biblical views all stemmin from Prince "alleged" quote on homosexual marriage. Then some ppl will start talkin bout they're not a fan of Prince anymore, but they still love his music, even though they think he's a bigot while others counter by sayin he has a right cause it's freedom of speech bla bla bla etc etc etc...

Yep...that's jus wat is it ...Jus the way it's been FOR DE WHOLE RASSCLAAT WEEK!

Since when in the fuck did marriage become such a "holy" thing as to be exclusive to heterosexuals?

It's a damn JOKE that hypocrites who marry and divorce like it's as easy as changing underwear are the ones trying to keep it a sacred institution! Crap about it being as so in the Bible? Come on people, wake up! The Bible says we should and shouldn't be doing a lot of things... including DIVORCE, Prince.

What happened to separation of church and state?

With a black heritage, you would think someone would be a little more hip on civil rights and the obvious omission of it for a group of people.

Offended by what I say?
Gee, maybe I was "misquoued."

Mountain out of a fucking molehill people! Why give a flying fuck.

It's not like he's not entitled to have his own opinions. Get over yourselves.

Besides, it's Prince: can anybody name 1 interview he ever did in which he didn't say something completely fucking stupid?.... Didn't think so...