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New topic PrintableThumparello said: Dude needs to get off the cocaine. It's the drug talkin these days more than anything. He's addict.
His religious mumbo jumbo is in part to his addiction. no thanks to his so-called friends | |
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cut me, cut you, both the blood is red | |
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Yanni? | |
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paisleypark4 said: Number23 said: Is there anyone he didn't offend in this interview? It seems Prince only wants white Christian heterosexuals to listen to his music now. Well these "earthy contests" are the way JW believe. ON their website they are not allowed to vote or get in2 politics. Its just sad to see someone who has been a fighter of freedom and finding your own self be bamboozled, hoodwiked into a controlled organized, this almost cult man-made religion, where former Jw's cant even speak to one another even if they are in the family. I cant think of a reason Prince actually wouldnt say this..I dont want to believe it but JW's are really really strict...I wouldnt be suprised. Its hard for me to listen to his music right now. Maybe in a month I will again. Yeah, it's sad. I use to be able to relate to him and look up to him in the '80s and '90s. I feel he's been brainwashed by this JW religion Larry Graham pushed on him on tour when he was vulnerable trying to deal with the lose of the baby back in '97. And he still hasn't gotten over all of that JW b.s. And losing both his parents hasn't helped him any. It just made him more religious. I miss the days when he was just spiritual and free and not a part of any organized religion. Religion is a cult. Organized religion is all about separating and dividing. And repressing. They use the fear of God to keep people down and obedient. The Bible itself has been misrepresented, misunderstood, mistranslated. The Old Testament of the Bible was misinterpreted and mistranslated from the ancient Sumerian stone text tablets. And to truly understand in the Gospels of the New Testament, one must go back to the original Greek manuscripts with their often-used Hebrew and Aramaic words and phrases. Sometimes this has happened because original words have no direct counterpart in other languages. I still dig his music, I just don't agree with his religion. [Edited 12/2/08 3:35am] Goodnight, sweet Prince. | |
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Number23 said: suomynona said: And I said, Well, because you’re black. And he said "Am I?" and held up his wrist next to my ruddy one. Indeed his skin was lighter, and he cracked up. Is there anyone he didn't offend in this interview? It seems Prince only wants white Christian heterosexuals to listen to his music now. Its all good, Im a white christian so I can listen to his music still?! Come on guys, if you truly value his work and look up to him as an artist then you would try to believe that he WAS misquoted like the people said. Most of the people on here shouldnt be members if thats what they think Don't hate me cuz I'm beautiful | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: bellanoche said: I was not going to comment on this interview issue, because I knew the PC police would find a way to misinterpret it and launch into yet another tired anti-Prince tirade. However, your comment compelled me to log in and respond. As an EXTREMELY proud black woman, I did not get this impression at all from Prince's alleged comments. I have always liked Prince because he has never backed away from issues of race like so many other mainstream black artists do. Instead, I got the feeling that Prince, like myself, is probably tired of white folks assuming that because Obama is black that every black person voted for him. Like Prince, I also exercise my option to not vote, not because of religious reasons but because I recognize the futility of it all in the larger scheme of things. Yet, my white colleagues just assumed that I voted for Obama. They came up to me the day after the election saying "congratulations." Because I live in Chicago, they assumed I was in Grant Park. I have a white colleague who shares my beliefs about the political system. However, I did not learn this from him because he just wanted to talk to me about Obama and race. I learned about our common political beliefs secondhand from another white colleague with whom he shared his true feelings about politics. We probably could have had a good discussion but because he was so focused on Obama and me being black he just assumed that I was voting black. It's insulting. I did not go up to white people after Bush won and say "congratulations." So, I think Prince's response was a sarcastic reply to the obsession that some whites have with race. At my job whenever something racial is in the news, the whites want to seek me out and get my opinion because I am, of course, the spokesperson for all things black. It's like yeah, I'm black and proud of who I am but don't make assumptions or confine me within the parameters of your myopic perception of what my "blackness" means. That is what I got from Prince's comments. I seriously doubt that Prince is trying to be a slave on anyone's plantation. Furthermore, nothing about Prince, especially in the last 20 years, points to a man who is begging for white acceptance. Finally, how sad is it that people still make such trite references to his size. That's lame, real lame. Attempting to belittle someone because their views are opposite yours is just immature. At the end of the day, what comes of it? [Edited 11/19/08 22:24pm] coughbullshitcough the fact that a person of color, THIS year, with everything that's going on in the world has the audacity to defend their right to "not vote". i could waste a lot of time and energy pointing out what our ancestors had to do (some of them DIED) for us to gain that right. whatever. of course the non-surprise being that of course there are kak's in here (kool-aid kids) that will defend ANYTHING that Prince says or does. that "am i?" crack in reference to him being lighter than the interviewer wasn't his attempt at "being deep", it was him being a self-loathing, arrogant prick. which isn't a new thing for him. | |
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annastesia1 said: Yanni?
Right?! It was probably Kamasutra. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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cloudguitar said: cut me, cut you, both the blood is red
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dseann said: cloudguitar said: cut me, cut you, both the blood is red
The lyrics from 'race'...we're all bones when we're dead I always took it to mean that the message of the song was that it doesn't matter what colour you are | |
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So besides house decorations (which we're all fascinated about ) is there any MUSIC news? Probably 09 will be his year and maybe a website again. | |
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wonder505 said: i could be wrong but i don't think we'll be hearing from Prince in any interview for a long time. he probably will see this reaction on the net as more reason to not do anymore interviews. hopefully he will learn to keep his religious beliefs to himself.
He's been like this for 20 years (preachy)...that's what he gets off on these days. He doesn't have much to express musically and he feels his voice must be heard, so he does these interviews. Well his great music from the past will live on forever in the future, regardless of how old and out of touch he gets. He's lived in incredible life already. | |
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vainandy said: TheEnglishGent said:
Also, he doesn't hate gays, the bible said men shouldn't lay with men and that's what the JW's believe, so that's what Prince believes. Well, I don't think I've ever layed with a man. Most of the time, it has been the man sitting and me leaned over doing my thing and vice versa. There's been a lot of sitting and leaning but no laying. So what's their problem with that? You know what it means. Stop playin'. | |
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U know what? From now on, Prince should do what Michael Jackson did when Martin Bashir interviewed him. Remember when Mike was interviewed by Bashir, he had his own camcorders recording the interviews as well? Yep. Mike cleared the air with that 1 and had it broadcast on FOX. I think Prince should do that from now on. Have a camcorder recording the interview in it's entirety. Unedited. Not even tampered with. Just raw footage. Then, have it broadcast on a major network or any form of media. Or, have his own people (like a stenographer) record the interview and send it out 2 various media outlets. C, if he does it this way, there will B little room 4 speculation and allegations. I hope Prince eventually read this response and take heed 2 the advice some of us supporters R posting on this forum. He needs 2 do something B4 he's forced 2 flip hamburgers at the McDonald's he used 2 visit as a child when he couldn't afford 2 get something 2 eat. Remember McDonald's, Prince. Remember. GOD 4bid that should happen, but, I'm just saying. | |
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cloudguitar said: dseann said: The lyrics from 'race'...we're all bones when we're dead I always took it to mean that the message of the song was that it doesn't matter what colour you are Same here, I looove the message in that song. The video is as funny as hell. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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i like how prince always has something interesting to say. everytime i read 1 of his interviews, i learn something. he adds new ideas to my train of thought. anyone that can do that, i dnt wanna miss out on meeting them. | |
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FlamingRaindrop said: No doubt that will disappoint the handful of obama fanatics...
Good to hear he didn't have a horse in the election, and sees the bigger picture. Good way to keep your hands clean. | |
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Prince has been one of my most consistently favorite musical artists. But, I have to say, interviews and stories like this one confirm a feeling I've had for a long time-- that I really wouldn't put him at the top of my list of people I'd want to meet. He really settles for a simple-minded view of things, whether we're talking religion or politics (to wit "Ronnie Talk to Russia"). And, he alienates himself by coming off as more spiritual than thou.
I don't have to agree with him, but I can't deal with intolerance. I haven't had much common cause with him since his seeming conversion from the guy who wrote "Uptown" to the guy who now draws lines between the righteous and wicked. I could see him taking another drastic turn before it's all over and going back to nasty. I don't believe his beliefs are deeply thought-out. I'd much rather hang out with another favorite Nelson (Willie). PS It's time to give up the the symbolic and numeric short-hand (eye for I, 2 for to, etc.). He's not a girl passing notes in seventh grade anymore. On second thought, maybe it's perfect for a guy who's so intellectually stunted. | |
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TheEnglishGent said: The colour thing doesn't have anything to do with wanting to exclude black people or denying his history. He wanted to make the point that regardless of colour, we're all just human. His religion says god is the ruler of man and he shouldn't vote to have a human leader, so why would the fact that someone is black compel him to vote, after all, he's just another man.
Also, he doesn't hate gays, the bible said men shouldn't lay with men and that's what the JW's believe, so that's what Prince believes. These aren't my views, just how Prince sees things because of his religion. To be honest, you have to give credit to the JW's for sticking with this belief. If you believe the bible to be the word of god, then you shouldn't be able to modify things to fit, as certain other christian groups have done just because it makes them more popular in the modern world. If you really believe that book is the word of a being that created everything around us, then you really should live life according to its writings. You're right. The Bible is pretty unequivocal about homosexuality. But, Jesus came around and modified much of what was accepted doctrine. Fundamentalism is dead-headed and ignores all the contradictions within the book. | |
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Parker777 said: Number23 said: Is there anyone he didn't offend in this interview? It seems Prince only wants white Christian heterosexuals to listen to his music now. Or could it be that he meant that he doesn't see color???? Oh please! He sees it when it suits him. Remember when he was a "Slave" and went around like a victimized angry black man? | |
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I know I'm late on posting here, but I've been away mourning Prince (new Prince, I'll NEVER give up the 3 decades of wonderfully FREE music which preached inclusion and truth to oneself instead of this BS). Yeah, I'm a lil' angry and a lot sad over this.
And sadly,I knew the second some new tunes came out this interview was gonna get filed under "oh he's just quirky". But if we wanna give Prince any props for being "truthful" to the Bible, I'd like to send him this t-shirt. | |
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johnart said: I know I'm late on posting here, but I've been away mourning Prince (new Prince, I'll NEVER give up the 3 decades of wonderfully FREE music which preached inclusion and truth to oneself instead of this BS). Yeah, I'm a lil' angry and a lot sad over this.
And sadly,I knew the second some new tunes came out this interview was gonna get filed under "oh he's just quirky". But if we wanna give Prince any props for being "truthful" to the Bible, I'd like to send him this t-shirt. You are so awesome, John. | |
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Vendetta1 said: johnart said: I know I'm late on posting here, but I've been away mourning Prince (new Prince, I'll NEVER give up the 3 decades of wonderfully FREE music which preached inclusion and truth to oneself instead of this BS). Yeah, I'm a lil' angry and a lot sad over this.
And sadly,I knew the second some new tunes came out this interview was gonna get filed under "oh he's just quirky". But if we wanna give Prince any props for being "truthful" to the Bible, I'd like to send him this t-shirt. You are so awesome, John. I think I know who this is. <-- guessing based on the avi. Of course I could totally be wrong. Perhaps someday he'll snap out of all this nonsense. :::sigh!::: Until then, I shall miss him terribly, but not a penny more from me. [Edited 12/24/08 17:43pm] | |
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