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Reply #60 posted 10/25/08 1:09pm

Madison88

catwoman555 said:

Tremolina said:



haha, nice dreams.



Why does everybody thinks Prince owns a lot of money??
Candy Dulfer lives near to me, and i know from herself that Prince is a very
good payer too other artist. She never could earn that kind of money from any other record company or other celebrity.

Prince spent it well, but with a good reason
wink
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ummmmm "business expense", "tax write-off", "donations", "benefits", "foundations".....it's all a way to keep spending and keep what you are making.... wink cool
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Reply #61 posted 10/25/08 3:42pm

mELdOURADOsELV
AGEM

Madison88 said:

I just got this email based on the same interview as above:


I like how they summed up the interview at this link... He sounds much more humble and sweet...very well done...



PRINCE ACHIEVED THE IMPOSSIBLE WITH LONDON RESIDENCY


breakingnews@contactmusic.com


show details 9:02 PM (3 hours ago)


PRINCE ACHIEVED THE IMPOSSIBLE WITH LONDON RESIDENCY.... to read on click
on the link below
(If the link doesn't work, please copy and paste the URL in your web
browser)

URL to article:
http://www.contactmusic.c...cy_1084639

N look whut eye found from ur link. It wuz in tha P pic gallry. smile biggrin smile
mushy
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Reply #62 posted 10/25/08 3:56pm

Snap

Anxiety said:

"Today, it's not realistic to expect to put out new music and profit from it. There's no point in trying to put new music out there and keep it from being (exploited)," he says.



i think this is just stinkin' thinkin'. sigh

even if the planet earth album didn't burn up the music charts last year, he did profit from the newspaper freebie deal and he did win a grammy for a song from that album. is that not profit?

meanwhile, i don't see anyone trying to exploit any of prince's new music. maybe he means this more on the level of the music industry and less on the level of illegal downloading/bootlegging/trading, etc. - but even if he's talking more on an industry level, the last i recall, prince got the upper hand over the record label with the newspaper distribution deal.

so who's exploiting who? i'm not mad at him, but come on now. he made out pretty good with his last album, i wish he could appreciate and take pride in that fact.


The Prince of 1996 would call the Prince of 2008 a complete asshole for thinking this way. What happened to making art for art's sake?
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Reply #63 posted 10/26/08 7:09am

chrisbak

irishwolfhound said:

DakutiusMaximus said:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...WHlZCVEhkF

Prince Continues to Chart His Own Course
By NEKESA MUMBI MOODY, AP Music Writer Nekesa Mumbi Moody

NEW YORK – At a celebration/concert for Prince's new book, late night had turned into early morning, the bar was closing and party organizers were deciding what decorations to pack up first.

But Prince was still on stage — and still captivating the exclusive group of about 200 fans who had gathered in an intimate penthouse loft to hear him perform.

Though he had taken about a two-hour break between sets, Prince was entering hour four in what would become a nearly five-hour musical extravaganza that not only included his own seminal hits like "Purple Rain" and "Little Red Corvette," but also interpretations of music from Jimi Hendrix, the Beatles, The Rolling Stones and even Janet Jackson and India.Arie for good measure. (Fans paid $1,000 for the first jam session and $300 for the second: Proceeds went to charity.)

It's this kind of magic that Prince tried to capture with "21 Nights," a glossy coffee-table book published by Simon & Schuster that documents the glamorous rocker during his record-breaking, 21-night run at London's 02 Arena last year. The book not only steals glimpses of his onstage performances, but also behind-the-scenes moments of the star and his band during the unprecedented concert stint.

"No one had ever sold out 21 nights in a row," said photographer Randee St. Nicholas. "So I thought, 'We should do a book surrounding this point in his life, because this is a great point in his life.'"

While his three-decades-long career has been meticulously chronicled, Prince is quick to point out, "Not by me — never by me. That's someone else who's on the outside looking in." This time, it's Prince — with St. Nicholas — telling the story, through his own frame of reference.

"This was a landmark event," says Prince, sitting on the rooftop with the Manhattan skyline as his backdrop during a break from rehearsals before the evening's musical marathon. "No one believed that it would do what it did. ... Everyone tried to talk me out of it."

Of course, Prince is used to proving skeptics wrong. These days, he's regarded as a pioneer for artists' rights and known for releasing music over the Internet. But when he left his longtime label Warner Bros. nearly two decades ago after a protracted battle over his creative path, and abandoned major record labels to release music on his own, he left everyone — from fans to musician insiders — wondering if he had lost his mind.

In recent years, he has re-linked with major record labels like Sony and Universal Music Group to release his albums, but isn't sure any record is worth putting out in this era of piracy and illegal downloads. Though the book includes a CD, it contains no new songs, just classic hits and other songs from one of his signature jam sessions.

"Today, it's not realistic to expect to put out new music and profit from it. There's no point in trying to put new music out there and keep it from being (exploited)," he says.

And he now has disdain for the way the Internet has, in his view, subverted artists' rights.

"The powers that be are abusing the copyright infringement," he says. "You can't sample Steven Spielberg; you don't see his stuff up there, just old tapes of the Ohio Players, who can't afford to defend themselves."

But while Prince exudes hints of frustration, he's hardly bitter: These days, serenity and good-natured fun seem to be his mantra.

Though he professes shyness, the diminutive artist gives a warm hug as a welcome, and during his show — which had Spike Lee, Anderson Cooper and Dave Chappelle in the audience — he had fans laughing as he cracked jokes throughout (among his more memorable was referring to himself as Rihanna, an allusion to Internet gossip that the statuesque singer had been mistaken for Prince).

St. Nicholas, a longtime friend, says Prince's conversion to the Jehovah's Witness faith several years ago has helped him evolve into a more spiritual person — and a more open one, in comparison with his reputation as a moody recluse. But Prince's public image has never been the real Prince that friends see behind closed doors, she adds.

"He's shy. But he doesn't necessarily hide or shield himself and attempt this mysterious persona that he has," she says of the twice-divorced star.

"You know children? You never know what they are going to do one minute to the next? ... That's very much how he is," she explains. "In a way it's very open, because if you can just hang in that moment with him, and just go for it — you're not worrying about the past."

And at times, Prince isn't even consumed with the present. While he talked about biblical implications to the recent stock market plunge ("that's why I had to bring back this song," he says as his band rehearses "1999" in the background), when it comes to a recent milestone, he's decidedly nonchalant.

"How old are we really?" asks Prince, who turned 50 in June. "It's about ascension. It's not the other way. There's nothing down about it. Everything is better."

As an example, he points to the 21-night run in London: "I couldn't have sold out 21 nights in London in the peak of my career; it would have been an impossibility," he says.

"I look forward to these years where everything is just open sky. I wish this for every artist: freedom."


if prince opened a new decent website and charged 100 dollars per year he could put his music out 2 the fams direct with downloads n the vault n pasley park has thousands of songs unreleased.
if he really cares about us he will look after us...we all bought the 21 nights book n we all love the man regardless.
respect is a 2 way thing...always has been.
WOLFY razz

[Edited 10/23/08 12:27pm]
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Reply #64 posted 10/26/08 7:11am

chrisbak

irishwolfhound said:

DakutiusMaximus said:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...WHlZCVEhkF

Prince Continues to Chart His Own Course
By NEKESA MUMBI MOODY, AP Music Writer Nekesa Mumbi Moody

NEW YORK – At a celebration/concert for Prince's new book, late night had turned into early morning, the bar was closing and party organizers were deciding what decorations to pack up first.

But Prince was still on stage — and still captivating the exclusive group of about 200 fans who had gathered in an intimate penthouse loft to hear him perform.

Though he had taken about a two-hour break between sets, Prince was entering hour four in what would become a nearly five-hour musical extravaganza that not only included his own seminal hits like "Purple Rain" and "Little Red Corvette," but also interpretations of music from Jimi Hendrix, the Beatles, The Rolling Stones and even Janet Jackson and India.Arie for good measure. (Fans paid $1,000 for the first jam session and $300 for the second: Proceeds went to charity.)

It's this kind of magic that Prince tried to capture with "21 Nights," a glossy coffee-table book published by Simon & Schuster that documents the glamorous rocker during his record-breaking, 21-night run at London's 02 Arena last year. The book not only steals glimpses of his onstage performances, but also behind-the-scenes moments of the star and his band during the unprecedented concert stint.

"No one had ever sold out 21 nights in a row," said photographer Randee St. Nicholas. "So I thought, 'We should do a book surrounding this point in his life, because this is a great point in his life.'"

While his three-decades-long career has been meticulously chronicled, Prince is quick to point out, "Not by me — never by me. That's someone else who's on the outside looking in." This time, it's Prince — with St. Nicholas — telling the story, through his own frame of reference.

"This was a landmark event," says Prince, sitting on the rooftop with the Manhattan skyline as his backdrop during a break from rehearsals before the evening's musical marathon. "No one believed that it would do what it did. ... Everyone tried to talk me out of it."

Of course, Prince is used to proving skeptics wrong. These days, he's regarded as a pioneer for artists' rights and known for releasing music over the Internet. But when he left his longtime label Warner Bros. nearly two decades ago after a protracted battle over his creative path, and abandoned major record labels to release music on his own, he left everyone — from fans to musician insiders — wondering if he had lost his mind.

In recent years, he has re-linked with major record labels like Sony and Universal Music Group to release his albums, but isn't sure any record is worth putting out in this era of piracy and illegal downloads. Though the book includes a CD, it contains no new songs, just classic hits and other songs from one of his signature jam sessions.

"Today, it's not realistic to expect to put out new music and profit from it. There's no point in trying to put new music out there and keep it from being (exploited)," he says.

And he now has disdain for the way the Internet has, in his view, subverted artists' rights.

"The powers that be are abusing the copyright infringement," he says. "You can't sample Steven Spielberg; you don't see his stuff up there, just old tapes of the Ohio Players, who can't afford to defend themselves."

But while Prince exudes hints of frustration, he's hardly bitter: These days, serenity and good-natured fun seem to be his mantra.

Though he professes shyness, the diminutive artist gives a warm hug as a welcome, and during his show — which had Spike Lee, Anderson Cooper and Dave Chappelle in the audience — he had fans laughing as he cracked jokes throughout (among his more memorable was referring to himself as Rihanna, an allusion to Internet gossip that the statuesque singer had been mistaken for Prince).

St. Nicholas, a longtime friend, says Prince's conversion to the Jehovah's Witness faith several years ago has helped him evolve into a more spiritual person — and a more open one, in comparison with his reputation as a moody recluse. But Prince's public image has never been the real Prince that friends see behind closed doors, she adds.

"He's shy. But he doesn't necessarily hide or shield himself and attempt this mysterious persona that he has," she says of the twice-divorced star.

"You know children? You never know what they are going to do one minute to the next? ... That's very much how he is," she explains. "In a way it's very open, because if you can just hang in that moment with him, and just go for it — you're not worrying about the past."

And at times, Prince isn't even consumed with the present. While he talked about biblical implications to the recent stock market plunge ("that's why I had to bring back this song," he says as his band rehearses "1999" in the background), when it comes to a recent milestone, he's decidedly nonchalant.

"How old are we really?" asks Prince, who turned 50 in June. "It's about ascension. It's not the other way. There's nothing down about it. Everything is better."

As an example, he points to the 21-night run in London: "I couldn't have sold out 21 nights in London in the peak of my career; it would have been an impossibility," he says.

"I look forward to these years where everything is just open sky. I wish this for every artist: freedom."


if prince opened a new decent website and charged 100 dollars per year he could put his music out 2 the fams direct with downloads n the vault n pasley park has thousands of songs unreleased.
if he really cares about us he will look after us...we all bought the 21 nights book n we all love the man regardless.
respect is a 2 way thing...always has been.
WOLFY razz

[Edited 10/23/08 12:27pm]

AMEN WOLFIE
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Reply #65 posted 10/26/08 5:20pm

Madison88

mELdOURADOsELVAGEM said:

Madison88 said:

I just got this email based on the same interview as above:


I like how they summed up the interview at this link... He sounds much more humble and sweet...very well done...



PRINCE ACHIEVED THE IMPOSSIBLE WITH LONDON RESIDENCY


breakingnews@contactmusic.com


show details 9:02 PM (3 hours ago)


PRINCE ACHIEVED THE IMPOSSIBLE WITH LONDON RESIDENCY.... to read on click
on the link below
(If the link doesn't work, please copy and paste the URL in your web
browser)

URL to article:
http://www.contactmusic.c...cy_1084639

N look whut eye found from ur link. It wuz in tha P pic gallry. smile biggrin smile


falloff Very well done..... wink
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Reply #66 posted 10/26/08 5:49pm

zucris

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Great thumbs up! Thanks!!!
Forever in my life...
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Reply #67 posted 10/26/08 6:23pm

laurarichardso
n

isthisdadawn said:

Prince has contrasting opinions.. I mean he says that there may be no point to putting out new music.. yet he has had how many albums in the past 4-5 years?

21 nights SOLD OUT may not have happened in 1984 but he wasnt the LEGEND he is now.

He is against copyrights infrigement but loves taking the classics and PRINCE-a-FIYING. i.e. Janet what have u done 4 me lately. lol..

I love PRINCE but honestly.. I dont take anything he says seriously anymore..He is childlike becuz he changes his opinions and mind over and over.

Youtube is a blackhole right PRINCE? lol..

-----
It is a finacial black hole. WTF is so hard to understand. Artist get no royalties from YOUTUBE and records are not selling. He made a good point about Spielberg the movie industry does not stand for this crap no way should musicians.
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Reply #68 posted 10/26/08 6:25pm

laurarichardso
n

Snap said:

Anxiety said:




i think this is just stinkin' thinkin'. sigh

even if the planet earth album didn't burn up the music charts last year, he did profit from the newspaper freebie deal and he did win a grammy for a song from that album. is that not profit?

meanwhile, i don't see anyone trying to exploit any of prince's new music. maybe he means this more on the level of the music industry and less on the level of illegal downloading/bootlegging/trading, etc. - but even if he's talking more on an industry level, the last i recall, prince got the upper hand over the record label with the newspaper distribution deal.

so who's exploiting who? i'm not mad at him, but come on now. he made out pretty good with his last album, i wish he could appreciate and take pride in that fact.


The Prince of 1996 would call the Prince of 2008 a complete asshole for thinking this way. What happened to making art for art's sake?

-----
It is a business and I think Prince was always about the money. Nothing wrong with that.
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Reply #69 posted 10/27/08 3:21am

viewaskew

What a paranoid, pessimistic, racist, prick. Come on!

"No one believed that it would do what it did. ... Everyone tried to talk me out of it."


You made a book with a bunch of pictures that have you PhotoShopped so much you don't look human which includes a CD of middling attempts at music when you surely could have done much better? "Everyone" should have tried harder.


"There's no point in trying to put new music out there and keep it from being (exploited),"


What a bassackward view. Thousands of successful musicians thrive. Alternatively, fine, Prince - don't release any more new music. Become the tired lounge act you're destined to be.

""The powers that be are abusing the copyright infringement," he says. "You can't sample Steven Spielberg; you don't see his stuff up there, just old tapes of the Ohio Players, who can't afford to defend themselves."


Right. It's the Jews! Anti-Semitic much? And actually, Prince. There were over 41,000 hits for Jaws on Youtube alone.

"...serenity and good natured fun seem to be his mantra."


Eye'm feeling bored today, Eye think it may b fun 2 sue some fanz.

"You know children? You never know what they are going to do one minute to the next? ... That's very much how he is,"


When "he may act like a little brat but at least he doesn't touch them in appropriate places" is as good as it gets, it's not good.

"How old are we really? Everything is better."


Tell that to those whose lives have actually been impacted by the stock market woes.

""I couldn't have sold out 21 nights in London in the peak of my career"


You sold out that many shows because you hadn't played there in years. Don't congratulate yourself too quickly.

""I look forward to these years where everything is just open sky. I wish this for every artist: freedom."


Why do you need freedom if you're not going to release any new CDs?
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Reply #70 posted 10/27/08 3:24am

viewaskew

laurarichardson said:


It is a finacial black hole. WTF is so hard to understand. Artist get no royalties from YOUTUBE and records are not selling. He made a good point about Spielberg the movie industry does not stand for this crap no way should musicians.


Looks like both you & Prince could stand to do some research. Go to Youtube & see how many hits you get for Spielberg & his work. Quite a few. You know why? Because THAT man is too busy working to give a shit. If only Prince would spend more time in a studio & less time with this b.s., he might make some music worth pirating, let alone talking about.
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Reply #71 posted 10/27/08 4:36am

SoulAlive

viewaskew said:

laurarichardson said:


It is a finacial black hole. WTF is so hard to understand. Artist get no royalties from YOUTUBE and records are not selling. He made a good point about Spielberg the movie industry does not stand for this crap no way should musicians.


Looks like both you & Prince could stand to do some research. Go to Youtube & see how many hits you get for Spielberg & his work. Quite a few. You know why? Because THAT man is too busy working to give a shit. If only Prince would spend more time in a studio & less time with this b.s., he might make some music worth pirating, let alone talking about.


Thank you for pointing that out.Movies are downloaded illegally just like CDs are! Anybody can download a movie that is currently playing in theatres right now.I've seen people do it.Plus,there are numerous movie clips all over Youtube.I don't know what Prince is talking about when he mentioned Steven Spielberg.

.
[Edited 10/27/08 4:38am]
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Reply #72 posted 10/27/08 5:46am

viewaskew

SoulAlive said:

viewaskew said:



Looks like both you & Prince could stand to do some research. Go to Youtube & see how many hits you get for Spielberg & his work. Quite a few. You know why? Because THAT man is too busy working to give a shit. If only Prince would spend more time in a studio & less time with this b.s., he might make some music worth pirating, let alone talking about.


Thank you for pointing that out.Movies are downloaded illegally just like CDs are! Anybody can download a movie that is currently playing in theatres right now.I've seen people do it.Plus,there are numerous movie clips all over Youtube.I don't know what Prince is talking about when he mentioned Steven Spielberg.

.
[Edited 10/27/08 4:38am]


It's more of his Jehovahs Witness fueled Anti-Semitism & Prince's usual approach to blame someone else for his problems. Spielberg is a lousy example for him to use anyway. There was a shot for shot remake of Raiders of the Lost Ark made by some kids a couple of years ago as an homage to the original, that got a lot of attention online, etc.. Did Spielberg sue them? No. He appreciated it. What happens when someone tries to cover a Prince song or release a tribute album? Not anything good.
[Edited 10/27/08 5:48am]
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Reply #73 posted 10/27/08 6:46am

SoulAlive

viewaskew said:

SoulAlive said:



Thank you for pointing that out.Movies are downloaded illegally just like CDs are! Anybody can download a movie that is currently playing in theatres right now.I've seen people do it.Plus,there are numerous movie clips all over Youtube.I don't know what Prince is talking about when he mentioned Steven Spielberg.

.


It's more of his Jehovahs Witness fueled Anti-Semitism & Prince's usual approach to blame someone else for his problems. Spielberg is a lousy example for him to use anyway. There was a shot for shot remake of Raiders of the Lost Ark made by some kids a couple of years ago as an homage to the original, that got a lot of attention online, etc.. Did Spielberg sue them? No. He appreciated it. What happens when someone tries to cover a Prince song or release a tribute album? Not anything good.


yeah,his anti-Internet/anti-YouTube stance is really annoying.Remember in the 90s when he talked enthusiastically about the Internet,and how he could release all his music on-line without the big record labels? I remember an interview where he gleefully said "File-sharing is inevitable,like the rain falling" or something to that effect.It's funny how his views have changed lol The Internet became too big,too powerful.People now have the freedom to see and hear what they want,on their own terms.That's what he hates....not being able to control it all.
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Reply #74 posted 10/27/08 7:04am

viewaskew

SoulAlive said:

viewaskew said:



It's more of his Jehovahs Witness fueled Anti-Semitism & Prince's usual approach to blame someone else for his problems. Spielberg is a lousy example for him to use anyway. There was a shot for shot remake of Raiders of the Lost Ark made by some kids a couple of years ago as an homage to the original, that got a lot of attention online, etc.. Did Spielberg sue them? No. He appreciated it. What happens when someone tries to cover a Prince song or release a tribute album? Not anything good.


yeah,his anti-Internet/anti-YouTube stance is really annoying.Remember in the 90s when he talked enthusiastically about the Internet,and how he could release all his music on-line without the big record labels? I remember an interview where he gleefully said "File-sharing is inevitable,like the rain falling" or something to that effect.It's funny how his views have changed lol The Internet became too big,too powerful.People now have the freedom to see and hear what they want,on their own terms.That's what he hates....not being able to control it all.


The sky opened up already. The rain fell. The world is awash in the Internet & Prince is a grumpy old fart stuck in the dark & trying to control everything.
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Reply #75 posted 10/27/08 7:10am

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I think Prince should only sell his music through the mail

to Only His True and Devoted Fans.....People who Don't get his music do not deserve to hear his music.....His treasures that he has bestowed upon Us
are for the chosen people who have ears that actually hear.I think He is an important part of our history and is trying to lead us to a place of greatness.
Those who fail to understand him will forever be lost.

We are The Sons of Almighty
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Reply #76 posted 10/27/08 8:05am

violetblues

bobbyc17 said:

I think Prince should only sell his music through the mail

to Only His True and Devoted Fans.....People who Don't get his music do not deserve to hear his music.....His treasures that he has bestowed upon Us
are for the chosen people who have ears that actually hear.I think He is an important part of our history and is trying to lead us to a place of greatness.
Those who fail to understand him will forever be lost.

We are The Sons of Almighty


I think you may be on to something!

hmmm
And i think i know where the place he wants to lead us may be?

I believe the jonestown compound in Guyana may be available.

.....Only for for his True Devoted Fans tho hmph!


dont forget your drinking straws!
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Reply #77 posted 10/27/08 9:33am

viewaskew

violetblues said:

bobbyc17 said:

I think Prince should only sell his music through the mail

to Only His True and Devoted Fans.....People who Don't get his music do not deserve to hear his music.....His treasures that he has bestowed upon Us
are for the chosen people who have ears that actually hear.I think He is an important part of our history and is trying to lead us to a place of greatness.
Those who fail to understand him will forever be lost.

We are The Sons of Almighty


I think you may be on to something!

hmmm
And i think i know where the place he wants to lead us may be?

I believe the jonestown compound in Guyana may be available.

.....Only for for his True Devoted Fans tho hmph!


dont forget your drinking straws!
[Edited 10/27/08 8:08am]



On to something? No.

On something? Maybe.
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Reply #78 posted 10/27/08 10:27am

Anxiety

JediMaster said:


I'm not slamming the guy here, so please don't jump my @$$ thinking I'm a "hater". I just want to see him find a balance when it comes to his creative control issues. The music IS his to do with as he sees fit, but he needs to remember that these songs have touched all our lives as well. It's his company, but we have stock in it. I'm not claiming we are "owed" anything, per se, just that we aren't the enemy here. He really needs to relax a little on this issue (he certainly seems to have chilled in other areas of his life), and start reaching out to his fanbase. The NPGMC was a step in the right direction, but it still could have been so much more. Hopefully, we'll see the man realize that the stress he brings on himself by tryiing to control every aspect of his musical empire just isn't worth it, and start to lighten up.


I liked your whole post, but I kept coming back to this part.

I think Prince DOES do a lot for his fans...maybe in his own way he does a lot more for his fans than other artists do, or maybe he does just as much, but only in a different fashion. I think he really reached out to his fanbase with the Gansevoort Hotel ticket giveaways, and he's done things like that for fans throughout the years. So he does deserve a lot of credit there.

I do agree about the control issues, though I guess my biggest gripe is that he's made so many good points about distribution and the industry over the past decade, I wish at some point he would take a look at the good things he's done instead of focusing on the things that are still going wrong. He's made a lot of points he can feel good about. Instead of scouring every nook and cranny of creative control imaginable, I hope he can take the time to appreciate what he HAS done and how it can benefit himself and other artists and find the comfort and space to just enjoy being creative and making more art.
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Reply #79 posted 10/27/08 10:45am

cathys

JediMaster said:

Interesting article. I think Prince isn't so much concerned about the money aspect of copyright law as he is about the control over how it is used. Prince is a control freak, no news to anyone, and doesn't want to see his music used in ANY form that he doesn't have some sort of control over. Even if it is something as mundane as YouTube, where it is doing no harm and actually exposes people to his music that might otherwise never have heard it, Prince doesn't want it on there because he didn't authorize it. Ultimately, is YouTube really all that different, from a musical perspective, than MTV was in the 80's? The artists weren't making cash off of their videos being played, they were getting free advertising (videos were created for the sole purpose of album promotion). Isn't YouTube ultimately the same thing? Of course it is, and Prince KNOWS this. He just doesn't want anything being done with his music without his express control. He's made comments of late of trying to find some outlet for his music video catalog beyond what is currently available, and that leads me to believe he wants his product out there, just under his watchful eye.

In many ways, it's a shame that he feels the need to keep such a strong grip on these things. I understood when he felt that his master recordings should be in his possession, because that is truly his artwork under someone else's ownership, but I think he has taken this too far. He makes money from his tours and merchandizing now, so why not relax a little with regard to his music. Piracy is a problem, so why not follow in the shoes of Trent Reznor by releasing the music for free on the internet? He has managed to put out albums for free, and still made money because he toured and sold merch. In fact, I think the idea of music being released for free would attract people to his website, where he could sell merch and offer up adspace. I find it rather ironic that, 12 to 13 years after the whole "Gold Experience" uproar, we are now asking Prince to "free the music".

I see his point when he refers to the Ohio Players clips on the internet, but he has to realize that whoever put those clips on YouTube probably aren't making any money off of them either. In all reality, they were probably placed up there by folks who are fans, who just wanted to share this cool stuff with other like-minded individuals. Why should this stuff just rot in a vault somewhere? Shouldn't it be seen by people who remember it fondly? Shouldn't it be put out there for a new generation to discover?

I'm not slamming the guy here, so please don't jump my @$$ thinking I'm a "hater". I just want to see him find a balance when it comes to his creative control issues. The music IS his to do with as he sees fit, but he needs to remember that these songs have touched all our lives as well. It's his company, but we have stock in it. I'm not claiming we are "owed" anything, per se, just that we aren't the enemy here. He really needs to relax a little on this issue (he certainly seems to have chilled in other areas of his life), and start reaching out to his fanbase. The NPGMC was a step in the right direction, but it still could have been so much more. Hopefully, we'll see the man realize that the stress he brings on himself by tryiing to control every aspect of his musical empire just isn't worth it, and start to lighten up.


Great post. Very considered and thoughtful.

I wish you were right about the last bit, but I can't see it happening. All the negative publicity that's been created by his battle with the internet doesn't seem to have changed his attitude at all; in fact, his opinions seem to be getting more entrenched.
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Reply #80 posted 10/27/08 2:27pm

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It's sad to hear Prince refer to his musical "peak."
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Reply #81 posted 10/27/08 6:51pm

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What a paranoid, pessimistic, racist, prick. Come on!

"No one believed that it would do what it did. ... Everyone tried to talk me out of it."


You made a book with a bunch of pictures that have you PhotoShopped so much you don't look human which includes a CD of middling attempts at music when you surely could have done much better? "Everyone" should have tried harder.


"There's no point in trying to put new music out there and keep it from being (exploited),"


What a bassackward view. Thousands of successful musicians thrive. Alternatively, fine, Prince - don't release any more new music. Become the tired lounge act you're destined to be.

""The powers that be are abusing the copyright infringement," he says. "You can't sample Steven Spielberg; you don't see his stuff up there, just old tapes of the Ohio Players, who can't afford to defend themselves."


Right. It's the Jews! Anti-Semitic much? And actually, Prince. There were over 41,000 hits for Jaws on Youtube alone.

"...serenity and good natured fun seem to be his mantra."


Eye'm feeling bored today, Eye think it may b fun 2 sue some fanz.

"You know children? You never know what they are going to do one minute to the next? ... That's very much how he is,"


When "he may act like a little brat but at least he doesn't touch them in appropriate places" is as good as it gets, it's not good.

"How old are we really? Everything is better."


Tell that to those whose lives have actually been impacted by the stock market woes.

""I couldn't have sold out 21 nights in London in the peak of my career"


You sold out that many shows because you hadn't played there in years. Don't congratulate yourself too quickly.

""I look forward to these years where everything is just open sky. I wish this for every artist: freedom."


Why do you need freedom if you're not going to release any new CDs?

wink Agreed.
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Reply #82 posted 10/28/08 5:06am

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Bipolar person #1: You know,I am pretty sure that I am Jesus!

Bipolar person #2: Indeed You are,My Son.
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Reply #83 posted 10/28/08 9:55am

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Eye love Prince interviews...2 me every word Prince utters is PURE gold! Thank u!
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Reply #84 posted 10/29/08 4:01am

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In recent years, he has re-linked with major record labels like Sony and Universal Music Group to release his albums, but isn't sure any record is worth putting out in this era of piracy and illegal downloads. Though the book includes a CD, it contains no new songs, just classic hits and other songs from one of his signature jam sessions.

"Today, it's not realistic to expect to put out new music and profit from it. There's no point in trying to put new music out there and keep it from being (exploited)," he says.


Do U think Prince is going to put out new music exclusively through unconventional channels? Like say, magazines, ticket sales and so on?
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Reply #85 posted 10/29/08 9:21am

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viewaskew said:

SoulAlive said:



Thank you for pointing that out.Movies are downloaded illegally just like CDs are! Anybody can download a movie that is currently playing in theatres right now.I've seen people do it.Plus,there are numerous movie clips all over Youtube.I don't know what Prince is talking about when he mentioned Steven Spielberg.

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It's more of his Jehovahs Witness fueled Anti-Semitism & Prince's usual approach to blame someone else for his problems. Spielberg is a lousy example for him to use anyway. There was a shot for shot remake of Raiders of the Lost Ark made by some kids a couple of years ago as an homage to the original, that got a lot of attention online, etc.. Did Spielberg sue them? No. He appreciated it. What happens when someone tries to cover a Prince song or release a tribute album? Not anything good.
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There was a shot for shot remake of Raiders of the Lost Ark made by some kids a couple of years ago as an homage to the original, that got a lot of attention online, etc.. Did Spielberg sue them

You are fucking clueless. Do you think for one minute that if someone put up a copy of Raiders of the Lost Ark on You tube that Spielberg and the movie studio found it was up on YOUTUBE it would not be taken down?

Not everything is about Jews. It is about people who cannot afford to fight back and those that cannot
Like the Ohio Players being ripped off while, the movie studios, and moguls are not ripped because they can afford to defend themselves.

You have to pay to use images and music if it does not belong to you. What is so hard to understand about that? What makes any of you think the world will stop turning if people cannot see a video of Prince on YOUTUBE.

In addition, Prince has not sued anyone. Since when did being asked to have your content taken down have anything to do with suing.
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viewaskew said:

laurarichardson said:


It is a finacial black hole. WTF is so hard to understand. Artist get no royalties from YOUTUBE and records are not selling. He made a good point about Spielberg the movie industry does not stand for this crap no way should musicians.


Looks like both you & Prince could stand to do some research. Go to Youtube & see how many hits you get for Spielberg & his work. Quite a few. You know why? Because THAT man is too busy working to give a shit. If only Prince would spend more time in a studio & less time with this b.s., he might make some music worth pirating, let alone talking about.

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Maybe it is because Speilberg is not aware the stuff is up on YOUTUBE.
Lot's of movie studios and artist are having their stuff removed.

The FBI came out and arrested a Blogger for putting up a copy of the new Guns and Roses CD on their blog.

People care a lot about a lost of money when they find out what is going on.
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Reply #87 posted 10/29/08 9:39am

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laurarichardson said:


What makes any of you think the world will stop turning if people cannot see a video of Prince on YOUTUBE.


Will the world stop turning if we CAN see a video of Prince on Youtube? I think it is interesting that some artists have business that make no problem of youtube, and (some) others do.
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Reply #88 posted 10/29/08 9:48am

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DakutiusMaximus said:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...WHlZCVEhkF

Prince Continues to Chart His Own Course
By NEKESA MUMBI MOODY, AP Music Writer Nekesa Mumbi Moody

NEW YORK – At a celebration/concert for Prince's new book, late night had turned into early morning, the bar was closing and party organizers were deciding what decorations to pack up first.

And at times, Prince isn't even consumed with the present. While he talked about biblical implications to the recent stock market plunge ("that's why I had to bring back this song," he says as his band rehearses "1999" in the background), when it comes to a recent milestone, he's decidedly nonchalant.


I wonder how much money has Prince lost in the Stock Market recently or this year??? Anybody care to guess? I'm sure he has many other investments, besides the Stock Market.
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remko said:

laurarichardson said:


What makes any of you think the world will stop turning if people cannot see a video of Prince on YOUTUBE.


Will the world stop turning if we CAN see a video of Prince on Youtube? I think it is interesting that some artists have business that make no problem of youtube, and (some) others do.

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If you know how to look you can see plenty and find lots of material to purchase and look at on your DVD.

I actually dislike the popularity of Youtube because for years you could easily obtain bootleg footage of P and now everybody knows about the footage. If any of you took the time to think about it Youtube is the worst thing that could have happen for those of us who like to collect video footage and music.
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