LizaWoman08 said:

x 10,000. trying to picture prince having an orgie in a castle. you have to cry in order to join the party!

DesireeNevermind said:

Hmmm i think he's having one right here...or so it looks like it

LizaWoman08 said:

AND HE WAITING HIS TURN CUZ THERE AINT NO MORE, UH, ROOM. LOL

DesireeNevermind said:

x 10,000. trying to picture prince having an orgie in a castle. you have to cry in order to join the party!

Wait a minute. Wasn't FUCK originally an abbreviation of [b]forced[/b] unnatural carnal knowledge? And doesn't it also mean to treat someone unfairly? That's what the dictionary has. So technically, all are right. He laying down the pipe real good an he also raping the shit outta the poor cab driver. AND SHE STILL AINT PAID after all these years.

DesireeNevermind said:

X-cuse me but the word fuck comes from colonial times, when someone would be punished for 'prostitution'. It was an acronym for the words'For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge'

FUCK was written on the stocks that held these criminals because For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge was too long to go on the stocks.
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I guess they'd be fucked then.

dseann said:

dseann said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Hmmm i think he's having one right here...or so it looks like it

LizaWoman08 said:

wait.. what did this thread turn into?

Is it Prince's detachment that makes this sound like rape? He doesn't appear emotionally connected with the woman he is fucking and, as a consequence, his detachment appears sinister. The 'thrusts' of Lady Cab Driver are aggressive and could quite easily be misinterpreted. You should not dismiss this thread so lightly. Prince is obviously exorcising some problems. That he's doing so whilst fucking someone could be construed negatively.

He doesn't appear emotionally connected with the woman he is f'ing and, as a consequence, his detachment appears sinister.

LizaWoman08 said:

AND HE WAITING HIS TURN CUZ THERE AINT NO MORE, UH, ROOM. LOL

Is it Prince's detachment that makes this sound like rape? He doesn't appear emotionally connected with the woman he is fucking and, as a consequence, his detachment appears sinister. The 'thrusts' of Lady Cab Driver are aggressive and could quite easily be misinterpreted. You should not dismiss this thread so lightly. Prince is obviously exorcising some problems. That he's doing so whilst fucking someone could be construed negatively.

BoySimon said:

.. what man is? (emotionally connected) ~ runs ~ .. (sorry men lol)

Flowers2 said:

I agree

toots said:

I couldn't help it... that statement was open lol

Flowers2 said:

Girls, girls... you KNOW they're going to be really emotionally upset when they read these comments though....

BoySimon said:

Yes, I think that's exactly what it is BoySimon! The line where he says "and this one's for you" seems like he's just remembered that she's actually there at all! That and feelings of inadequacy, anger, not being in control of his life, all point to some kind of 'power trip'!

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Like the 1999 album cover thread, (which probably gave u the idea to do this thread) this too has been discussed on here. Many times actually. As far as the song goes, to me, it's one of my all time favorite songs by Prince. But none of the reasons why I've always dug this song has jack to do with the little interplay between Prince and J.J. But dealing with that since this is what this thread is all about; This song, like 95% of all of the songs on this album is about dominating, loneliness, sex, wanting to please and to be pleased, anger. Many times on this album, all of those elements can be found ALL in one song. Prince is many things, but one thing he has never been is stupid. Prince is though very savvy and he's a master at anything that has a double meaning. That has been littered all over his earlier work. Be it religion, sex, whatever. That said, from the performance of P's and Jill's interlude on LCD, Prince is fully aware of the connotation that this gives off. Prince is not naive. Far from it. He's VERY knowing in anything that he does. I believe P walked that fine line in producing a sound that could border rough sex and rape. To listen to Jill, and only Jill, she sounds like she's really into the fucking. She sounds like the sex she's having is making her feel good. Like she's on her way to having an orgasm. She does NOT sound like a woman who is NOT enjoying the sex. She does NOT sound like a woman who is being violated against her will. Prince on the other hand, he does sound like just from some of his tone, that it COULD be just aggression he's taking out on her. The "This is for and that is for" represents that. It's the TONE that comes from Prince that could evoke he's forcing himself onto to Jill. It could be seen by some as rape and then by others, it's not. And P knew that. Again, it's that duality. The way Jill sounds supports that it's just good fucking. The way P sounds like it could be aggression or aggression that went over the line. It's all about perception. And that differs from person to person. It's not like P hasn't ever mentioned rape or provoked rape before. Extra Loveable. BUT again, that song was written for Vanity 6 to perform. So it's not a stretch with all of the gender switching and role reversal that P used to do during the time of this album that it was intended for Vanity to say "I could be very cruel. Don't make me rape u". Just a scenerio. Again, P is very knowing in the things he does. Most of it is designed to where it CAN go either way. That's intentional.
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blackguitaristz said:

Let's see.... oh yes, so you did!

Jeffiner said:

But ya'll could STILL line up with the machine guns and lullaby my ass untill I slump against the wall. Although I don't smoke, somebody could blindfold me and just blast away to ya'll hearts content.

blackguitaristz said:

Oh, ok then...

Jeffiner said:

There u go...THAT'S what time I'm talking about.

blackguitaristz said:

you're not allowed to speak when you're I'm not sure how you're going to cope with that.....

Oh well, the thread's dead anyway!