Threads that are created here that speak about Prince's intimate relationships and his life in general? Do you feel like as fans we should speak on such things? I ask because I posted in a rather long thread in Associates and that thread is interesting, but while posting I couldn't help but ask myself if as a fan it is proper or cool to post such things . I can honestly say that as a fan for 26 years I get into all the excitement and drama, but I think sometimes we over look the fact that P is still just a man and a man with feelings-not to mention a DAMN FINE man So what's your take on it?

I used 2 like all the horny details...now that the details aint so horny..i dunno...

MrBiGsTuFf said:

I'm sure we all like the details, but is it really cool to do this? I know it's all apart of being famous, but for someone who has given us so much shouldn't we say that some things are off limits?

nurseV said:

No of course it's not Nurse, but it's the nature of the beast.
As individuals we chose 2 either partake in that kinda behaviour, or not 2, and its usually a fair reflection of where people r at, in terms ofdifferent aspects of their lives.

nurseV said:

when i first joined the org a few months ago i guess i was interested in threads about his personal life as well as the music, but after reading some comments others made in an assoc. thread about his realtionship with Tamar and his divorce ect, i was pretty horrified. There is no way to know what is truth or just rumors and either way its not really anyone elses biz. these are all actual people with feelings and if you couldnt justify saying it to someones face maybe you shouldnt say it anywhere.

MrBiGsTuFf said:

U're right I'm starting to wish I never posted in that thread.

jb86 said:

This what I'm saying-it's none of our business, but yet we still post things that we shouldn't. Then again how do we know that some of these posters aren't really folks with so-called inside info? Should we care?

Intimate details we never really know, however, emotions are common to everyone in the world, that is all that happens in every soul, they will naturally be addressed every second of the day, whether in private with God or with another person.

Every observation in a discusssion, every point of view is a judgement that is on a range between equality to the judgement or higher or less than the judgement.

It just is.

Tame said:

Very deep. I do realize that as humans it is natural for us to have feelings and emotions related to these things, but how do we justify these daily discussions of a man's private life?

i think there's personal and then there's PERSONAL.

some aspects of his personal life, he puts out there and of course we're going to talk about it. like the usa today interview and all his mentions of being celibate. he kept making those comments because he WANTS people to react to it. who knows if it's true or not. in his mind, i'm sure it is true...it's just a matter of how he defines it vs. how we define it. it's not the point. the point is, he made a personal comment to get people talking. that, to me, is fair game.

and, you know, when he gets photographed wearing those damn flip-flops and we razz him on here, that's harmless. i'm sure he's used to getting smart comments about his clothes over the years, and who really cares if someone makes fun of your stupid flip-flops?

i think what bothers me is when people start talking about the people he surrounds himself with, and when people make disparaging remarks about certain people's personal character without even knowing those people. it's one thing to criticize prince's views on voting or whatever...but i see people calling his proteges and his assistants "heifer" and "tranny" and totally picking them apart based on what - a picture? a gossip column item?

"bitter, party of one" much?

i also think it's tacky when people bash prince's religion, but he's a public figure and he's very vocal about his religious beliefs, so i think he brings some of that on himself. i don't think he was being overzealous about his faith in the USA TODAY interview, he was just stating where he stands. but again, i'm sure he put it out there because he wanted people to talk about it. i think he's become too guarded over the years to say things in a public forum that aren't 100% intentional.

there are opinions i have that i don't post on here. there are opinions that i used to post but wouldn't post now. there are things i have no problem saying or talking about. and then there's a whole lot that just doesn't seem necessary at all.

I do not believe discussions concerning Prince's personal relationships is appropriate at all because he and those discussed are human beings just like you and me. Some of the things posted are horrific. It matters not that Prince is a public figure that gives no one the right to post degrading remarks.

I agree with the poster who commented that the degrading posts tell alot about the poster.

Discussions concerning his music and interpretations is o.k to me; of course its all speculation, but that's part of the fun.

Anxiety said:

I can truly say that I have been guilty of making personal comments about others on here-I'm only human, but I do see the harm in that. I agree that some of the things we use to say on here are no longer appropriate and shouldn't have been then either, but as Tame said that's just the way it is. I personally have never made remarks about his religion-that's his choice and we all need some guidance in our lives. I do believe that P is very aware of what we say about him and that he does say some things on purpose. I can honestly say that as I look back at my post in that thread-it is scary to see just how much we get into this man's life

Twinkly1 said:

I can agree Twinkly with your comments. I wonder what the point is when folks come on here just to make crazy remarks about P.

nurseV said:

that's cool...i know i've said my share of catty stuff in the past, but once it starts making you feel bad to know that you put it out there, i think it's a sign of growth that you can identify it, feel bad about it, and not feel a need to post that kind of stuff anymore (or at least not as much, or as brutal).

in other words, hey - we all grow up eventually.

well, most of us do.

Anxiety said:

that's a good point and you're so right about that... I made a comment about that in the other thread and I erased my comment... why did he say that, when it really wasn't necessary to? he does bring stuff on himself by making statements like that..

Flowers2 said:

well, it's like during musicology when he was making such a big stink over being monogamous, and he had to mention it in all his interviews. it was clearly something that he wanted people to link to him and discuss for whatever reason. i don't think prince is a candid person in interviews, at least not anymore. if he says something peculiar or provocative, he thought hard about saying it to a journalist before he opened his mouth.

Flowers2 said:

Maybe he just wants people to know he's "celibate"? Not to elicit comment but as confirmation. Perhaps its part of his faith to publicly disavow certain aspects of his previously "worldly" life? He may be trying to convince his woman he's true?

Twinkly1 said:

it could be those things. my takeaway from it was that it was something that he wanted to make sure his public noticed, for whatEVER reason. maybe he's setting us up for a song on the subject that he's recording for the next album, or maybe it's just his latest thing to be all excited and obsessive about. whatever the reason, his mentions of it were clearly very deliberate and meant to be noticed. that's really my only reaction to the whole deal.

Anxiety said:

Agreed, it could be almost anything. I didn't think about the "set-up" to a song though -- that certainly sounds plausible.

Twinkly1 said:

you know honestly, as big of a star as he is and the status he has as an entertainer... I find that hard to believe lol .. I'm sorry Prince lol but youz a playa' lol ..... he has an ocean of women wanting him and he's not gonna go fishing some of the time?? rofl.. I could very well be wrong.. but uhm... what guy is gonna turn down an ocean of women?

oh wait, I just thought about Lenny (Kravitz).. he too, has an ocean of women, but for some reason, I believed Lenny, when he said he was celibate (don't ask me why).. Prince?? absolutely not..
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I don't like gossip, but I do it anyway. :shurg:

I thinks its alright until you start acting like you know the fool you're talking about. I mean, I've seen people say REALLY harsh things about P and the people...particularly women...that are associated with Prince....like the bitch done walked up and slapped them one day.
And its not just, "Oh her hair looks like a hot mess" it's "oh, thats tranny looks like a whore. She's a gold digger"
And I'm wondering, where does all this vitriol come from? Why are you saying this? Why do they deserve this words and what is it doing for you to say it?
You don't need to be talking like that about somebody you don't know. You're looking at a photograph and a gossip collumn and writing someone's god damn biography.

I don't think youy should be talking like that about someone you don't know.
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U know I don't think its neccessary that we know all the personal details about any celebrities lives really. No wonder he fights so hard to keep his music in check and his private life as private as possible.
Look at what happens when some of these celebs get followed around by the paparazzi and fans so closely that they are literally tripping over the papparazzi when they are just going out for a damn cup of coffee.
Im not exactly a fan of Brittney Spears and the like, but no wonder the poor girl had a breakdown when every time she takes a breath there is someone in her face, or a zoom lens taking pics of her g-string when she's in her own backyard!!
Maybe P acts the way he does because he is fed up as well. Being famous must drive some people to take desperate measures to try and protect as much of their life as possible.,,,even the thing that made them so popular, such as Princes music.
Yeah he comes across as occasionally erratic and mean (he has even annoyed the crap out of me with the web sherriff thing) , but no doubt the man has his reasons, even if we dont think they seem normal or sane, they clearly are to him
Maybe protecting his privacy is why

His private life is none of our buisiness,I joined this site to talk about his music, I was quite horrified when I saw what people were saying about him and anyone close to him, name calling etc. Whatever is written about him in newspapers magazines should'nt be taken seriously we should all know by now that the press don't print the truth and they write for their own entertainment.We will never know what is true, whats a lie and whats exaggerated.

I hope he does'nt read any of the personal comments made about him on here he must be horrified. I'm surprised he has'nt shut this site down based on those comments.

I can honestly say that before i got on the web I never cared about Prince's personal details or anybody else's. People usuually get into other people's business to avoid taking care of they're own.

Good points on here.

I am glad he guards his private life. Some people like to act like they know Prince or his associates and calling them names. As for Prince's religion, some people hate him for it which is sad. Then their is Prince's love life, people are going on and on about his wifes and girlfriends like they know these women. It gets ridiclous.
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Yes, I do feel we should speak about such things. They have personal value to us based on what Prince has meant to us over the years.

I relate to Prince as a public object -- as a social and musical representation of a set of ideals and principles.

He is there for public consumption, enlightenment and inspiration -- much like a piece of art or even a piece of his own music. Once art is out ... and people love and embrace it...they own their reaction to it and will dissect and discuss it as part of the fabric of their own beliefs and lives.

So it is with artists and "famous" people.

Don't be offended that I objectify him. I'm not trying to be mean or callous. In a way it's an ultimate form of reverence ...that he would be so significant to me.

I know I don't know him personally -- and I don't want to. I probably wouldn't even like him. But while I don't have the truly private Prince I do have the public manifestation ...shaped by myth and mystique and fame and a thousand other factors.

I love that manifestation. It's sort of like a hologram of the real Prince. Every famous person essential exists in two dimensions ... real form and this sort of hologram that I referred to.

That's just the reality. I can't pretend the music I cherish isn't connected to a creator that I want to know about and connect to his music and connect to ME and my existence ... it brings my appreciation of his art to full circle.

SynthiaRose said:

Simply Beautiful I can respect this.

No matter what we say that because hes in the public hes not a object! Hes human!!! People always 4get that and claim their right 2 say what they want about him but what about his rights? If at school or wherever, people talk about someone like the way they do on this org, that causes fights because its all gossip and rumors. And some go 2 far!

I don't think you understand the nuances of my philosophy.