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^ There's a shallow interpretation of the same article from E!, in case anyone cares. [Edited 9/26/08 21:00pm] | |
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laurarichardson said: 3121 said: Right now, he's cranking newly crafted funk-pop-psychedelic wonders Boom, Forever and Dreamer, an ode to Martin Luther King Jr. inspired by discussions with Dick Gregory. He declines to play The Divine, a song so "mind-blowing" he doubts he'll ever release it. "The minute the harmonies hit, I put it away," he says.
On a love song, his voice takes on yearning as he pines for the feel of a lover's lips and the move of her hips. "That's what happens with years of celibacy," says Prince, survivor of two broken marriages. "It all goes into the music." He pauses. "This time, it has to be the right person." yeah, that makes sense. The world just needs another ballad by numbers but you can keep your mind-blowing best work. ----- I know this is hard to believe but, some of us like ballads and P is really good at writing them. I do not believe the celebate business for one min he writes those ballads about someone or some incident. I would like to quote Wendy & Lisa..."The other truth is... and almost ALWAYS is... that it is a song, and sometimes you write what rhymes, and what sings well, and... you just make things up! . Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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Paris9748430 said: I can see how it's hard for some people to believe that Prince is celibate, but some of the comments here have been just plain disrespectful.
I'm not a religious person, but I do respect his and anyone Else's choice to practice their religion the way they see fit. I can see why he has a problem with YouTube, even though I disagree with him. I doubt I'll buy his book, but I'm definitely anxious to hear a new album or see him on tour. Again, I don't agree with him on Intelligent Design, but I respect his beliefs as I would hope he would respect mine. I've read people take Prince to task for not voting, yet making a song about Martin Luther King. Call me crazy, but I thought Martin fought against discrimation. The same thing you're doing when you're attack his religious beliefs and his decision to be celibate. Whatever Prince chooses to do with his life and his career, I support because it's HIS life, and HIS career!!! I don't think Prince is a bad person just because he doesn't act the way people want him to. I've also read someone say that Prince's music hasn't been the same since 1988. That's because he isn't the same person he was in 1988!!! If you want Prince to act and sound like he did in the 80's then maybe you should watch Purple Rain.  Amen to that!! Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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Anxiety said: alandail said: 24 hour prince tv station? That'd be great if he could get it widely carried, including DirecTV
His viewpoint of iTunes is crazy, though. Nothing could make him more money than systematically releasing the contents of the vault through iTunes. All of the music, all of the videos. And it would be far less financially risky than starting an all Prince TV station, which probably wouldn't last longer than 6 months before he pulled the plug. i've heard other bands complain about how pathetic profits are from iTunes. it would make more sense for him to start another musicology store like he had on the NPGMC site - he'd make more money that way. or he could release a new album digitally on his own site as an "exclusive" and then a month or two later, release the album to stores and iTunes. that way, the fans who are keeping on top of his music will be buying directly from him, and those early sales could build a buzz for more casual listeners who depend on target and iTunes for their music shopping. No he wouldn't. NPGMC had to have both way more overhead and a smaller audience than selling material through iTunes. And the difference between Prince selling vault material and typical artists selling stuff on iTunes is Prince has his own record company - there's nobody in the middle taking a percentage, Prince wold get 67% of everything that sold. There is NO WAY NPGMC cleared that kind of revenue. They had expenses of staff, servers, network bandwidth, credit cart processing, custom software, etc, and pretty much did not reach anyone outside of hard core prince fans. Sell 1000 songs from the vault over a 10 year period at .99 each, get paid 67% of that, average 100,000 sales per song and Prince clears over $60 million. That doesn't even count the revenue from selling short and long format videos. Prince's only expense is to pay an engineer to get new content ready each month. |
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unkleg said: ...I also think that iTunes may be an easy way distribute music, but it's monopolistic - you have to have music in THEIR format and use THEIR player (though you can work around this). Apple's interest in music stops and starts with the revenue they derive from the iPod. They are no different to the music industry, in their world, they are the music industry.
God bless (yes God) Prince for steering clear. No you don't, iTunes plus music plays anywhere. And NPGMC had a much worse problem, their music only played on Microsoft devices, which nobody has. It's like releasing music on an 8 track tape instead of a CD. |
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SEXYMF2002 said: Anxiety said: i've heard other bands complain about how pathetic profits are from iTunes. it would make more sense for him to start another musicology store like he had on the NPGMC site - he'd make more money that way. or he could release a new album digitally on his own site as an "exclusive" and then a month or two later, release the album to stores and iTunes. that way, the fans who are keeping on top of his music will be buying directly from him, and those early sales could build a buzz for more casual listeners who depend on target and iTunes for their music shopping.  Exactly
Itunes is nice but yes the profits are crap. Apple's take is waaaaay more than should be allowed but for up and coming artists its a way of being part of one of the largest and more popular distribution outlets. For Prince though...not really needed. I'm smelling new album here...hope its not another year though. How is 33% way too much? I'm sure their is WAY more markup when a typical CD is sold, not to mention the manufacturing and distribution costs. |
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Flowers2 said: *wonders where SCNDLS is..... girl, you need to tell these folks what you saw @ those Vegas shows*
  what did she see??? Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul | |
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estelle81 said: This is a very well-written article and the pictures are outstanding...thanks Serpan.
 hey...ur welcome and thx 4 the , it has been fun posting this article  | |
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simm0061 said: serpan99 said: Change of religion, life Tonight, that mood of isolation permeates Prince's luxurious 30,000-square-foot Tuscan-style villa, perched high in a gated Beverly Hills enclave. How do Jehovah's Witnesses feel about opulence? Is it A-OK? I mean, you can't vote but you can live like this?  I'm not trying to be a smartalec; I'm really curious about how extravagance is viewed...
Btw Prince, You can knock on my door any time to explain this all to me! 
[Edited 9/26/08 9:19am] ...well, the few JW people I've known, have been equally enthusiastic about informing me of their personal welth as they were about sharing their beliefs, so I reckon personal welth is accepted. | |
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What makes you think Merecedeses are overpriced? Or any other elite cars for that matter? I'm no expert in economics, but I assume their prices are determined by the market - that is, demand. The same goes for clothes, real estate, etc.
Btw, Prince is a pauper compared to Russia's billionaires. He's in the music business, not oil&gas. Goes to show it's all relative. "Reason not the need." King lear estelle81 said: This is a very well-written article and the pictures are outstanding...thanks Serpan. I love me some Prince, but I am far from being blindly obsessed with him. He proves to be a true Gemini with some of the contradictions painted in this article IMO.
I don't believe in religion, any religion; only a higher power that I refer to as 'God'; and, the simple idea that people should love and respect each other and all of God's creations. God is going to be God whether religion exists forever or disappears tomorrow. I don't like when any person, celebrity or not, insists on mentioning their beliefs without taking into consideration if others want to hear it. There's a fine line between sharing your beliefs and forcing them on people (Tom Cruise and Madonna crossed these lines not to long ago, and Prince ain't far behind them IMO). I don't like when he asks people if they believe in God, because God has different titles throughout the world and he should consider that before posing that question to his diverse group of fans out of respect for those who don't refer to their deity by that moniker. Honestly, the only thing that religious indidivuals came up with that made any real sense to me was WWJD...What Would Jesus Do? Really, what would Jesus Do? I don't think many of them thought about it before they started printing it on bumper stickers, T-Shirts, and other merchandise. I don't think Jesus would be rollin' around in a over-priced car, wearin' a head-to-toe designer ensemble, and charging people to listen to him speak the Word (then he would be a televangelist  ). Nor, do I think that Jesus would be living [b]alone in a 9-bedroom, 30,000 square foot mansion.[/b]...but I could be wrong. 
If people are going to throw out religion and make it seem like because they go to church twice a week, once on Saturday, and 3 times on Sunday, that means that they get an automatic entry pass into heaven, than they need to really think about that acronym...WWJD. Practice what you preach is all I'm sayin. I don't expect Prince to give up all his fame and fortune and live like Mother Theresa, but I don't want him preaching to me if he's not going to live a little more of a humble existence either. Why the hell do you need a 9-bedroom house all to yourself? I'm just sayin'. Other points of interest for me: "His mystery is not something he works at. It's who he is."
No that's called 'secrecy', even mysterious people are more open than Prince at some point in their lives and careers. To see that he's kept something that his father gave him as a child is soo sweet to me. Seriously, this is the most real and open part of the interview IMHO. He's still a daddy's boy after all these years. 
On a love song, his voice takes on yearning as he pines for the feel of a lover's lips and the move of her hips. "That's what happens with years of celibacy," says Prince, survivor of two broken marriages. "It all goes into the music." He pauses. "This time, it has to be the right person."
First, he has to be willing to compromise if he wants to find true love. I love Prince, but Prince seems to not be the type to change his practices for any female. He loves his music and he's a workaholic when it comes to his craft. He can't expect a real woman to give up everything she believes in and follow his practices and he's not willing to do the same. I don't believe real love works like that, but that's just my  | |
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"The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page | |
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carlcranshaw said: I had stopped vomiting, but still shook and sobbed. Mom returned to the room to sit on the edge of my bed. Again she asked, "Billy what's wrong?" "That was my bus route," I whispered when I could get words out. "What if someone I knew came to the door?" "So?" "They'd find out I was a Jehovah's Witness." Mom's hand met the side of my head in a flash of brilliant white light and an explosion of pain. I collapsed onto the mattress while she flailed at me, her rage-clenched fists thudding into my eight-year-old body. "How dare you?" she shrieked. "You awful, rotten child! How dare you be ashamed of Jehovah? I hate you! I hate you!" The Spanking Room is the true story of a young boy's upbringing, and how the unorthodox doctrines of the Watchtower Society encourage violence against its most helpless members--the children. Whether you are looking for specific answers or an overall understanding of Jehovah's Witness beliefs and practices, The Spanking Room delivers in a straightforward, compelling manner. Journey with little Billy Coburn as he grows up in the Watchtower Society, learn what Jehovah's Witnesses believe about God, and experience the inner workings of the Kingdom Hall through a child's-eye view. If you or someone you love is a Jehovah's Witness, this book is for you. | |
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Did I hear the words "Prince", "smoke" and "mirrors" all in the same article????  [Edited 9/27/08 5:21am] | |
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bellanoche said: 2freaky4church1 said: Celebate my ass! The guy is the biggest poon hound in rock history. He just says that so the JW's won't kick him out or they had him shut up for pr reasons. I haven't heard any news about him visiting houses for the religion, except that one article years ago.
The guy has been seen going into hotels with women. Trusting the tabloids..lol He wrote a song about Martin King but doesn't vote? Martin King died so you could vote you sorry sack of shit. People who don't vote should be kicked out of America, period. This election is too important. Bet he likes Palin as well. Intelligent design? eat me. The Devine! Wow, I bet is sounds like something from Diamonds And Pearls...lol You know he always overrates his stuff. The Real God needs to knock this guy in the beak. I usually don't respond to posts as ignorant as this, but I felt compelled to this time. Martin Luther King Jr. fought for the right for ALL citizens in this country to have equal rights, to be treated fairly as human beings with dignity and respect. He died because some idiot assasinated him. He didn't die for anyone to have the right to vote. Don't diminish/reduce his struggle to "the right to vote." Having the right to vote means that someone has the OPTION to vote or not to vote. That is the right that ALL citizens should have. It does not mean that they have to go out and vote, especially if it conflicts with their spiritual beliefs. The right to CHOOSE is the issue. When black people did not have the right to vote it meant that we did not have a choice. Prince, and the rest of us black folk now have the right to CHOOSE whether we want to take part in the voting process or not. Exercising one's right not to vote is as much about freedom as exercising the right to vote. It is not grounds to kick someone out of a country. That's a very ignorant proposition. Shouldn't people have the equal right to have views that are different from yours or even the majority for that matter? Also, if you have such a problem with Prince and his beliefs and lifestyle why are you on this site posting? Where are your facts and evidence to contradict anything he has said in this interview. I am all for people sharing different opinions here. However, your post is so vitriolic that it makes me wonder why you would spend time reading an interview and posting comments about a "sorry sack of shit," as you described him. You really need to get a life. The idea of "not voting" is dangerous and counter-intuitive to the ideas of MLK and the activism of the Civil Rights Movement. It's especially sickening to hear a rich, pampered African-American espouse the views of non-participation in the political process at a time when we are on the verge of possibly electing the 1st Black president. How can he comment on the injustices of corporate America and multi-nationals when he discourages the only process available for average people to make changes in those institutions. Just because his views are religious/cult based does not make them anymore credible. The bible also has been used to promote racism, sexism, homophobia, war mongering, etc. And intelligent design - give me a break. Instead of studying the same book over and over again, P should investigate some leading scientists. It's time for him to go back to his Beverly Hills mansion, secluded from people who have been affected by the realities of life, and make some good music. He's got too much time on his hands. | |
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His stereo includes the turntable his father gave him as a toddler. He learned to play guitar spinning LPs on it.
that's precious. is it for sentimental reasons? | |
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he loves this interviewer, and she clearly loves him too.
The good: prince seems very open less guarded I want prince's turntable! The video channel seems very cool The bad: I'm so sick of this religious stuff. I wish I could separate the music and the persona from his personal life which is his own business and his own right, but I just can't. And I know that on one hand Im glad he seems more open but then ding him when he talks about JW. I guess he can't win. Maybe I wish he would just open up more about music and less about religion. Tell us about what was going thru your head when u were making graffiti bridge, tell us what your favorite tour was, describe how u felt in LA when the crowd went nuts during the acoustic section, blah blah. I doubt 'the divine' is as good as he thinks. I remember similar bragging about 'sex in the summer' One last comment: It would be great if the video channel could show us truly new stuff. Like behind the scenes of the recording of the classics if footage exists, break down the tracks of the classics and show us how u played them and how they all come together, let us hear things like WDC with baseline and without or play us 1999 with all the harmonies together instead of isolated. Show us rehearsal footage, do an unplugged set, show us some of famous aftershows. Don't make this about JW, make it about the music and think about the fans. Question: If he launches a video channel, will he censor the old stuff? If so count me out | |
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Well... here I go.
I received the article in USA today by a strange coincidence. A particular person whom I have been trying to get closer to the father upstairs for about 12 years now brought this article to me yesterday. He said that it was in the lobby of a hotel smack dab in the middle of a table on top of other pieces of the paper. Oddly, never anything is ever on that table... strange. However, in the first place I don't like newspapers, the feel of them, smell of them and the residue that remains forever embedded in my lines of life called the fingerprints...just nasty stuff. My point; however, IS, the fact that Mr. Prince Rogers Nelson has come from trying to figure out what life is about and how he was given so much in music constantly running around and within him. All the while, knowing that there was something greater than him as a human being with love. The finite point being he has completely found the truth. The only thing people in life that is true is LOVE and that LOVE created by the the father and shared with the SON. GOD and Jesus Christ. I first came to the internet "black hole, as it was truly noted" at love4oneanother. What really got me was the fact that I was looking for others in truth and found some very very wonderful people. Upon going to the holy river chat I found more wonderful people. Throughout the years many thought I was crazy, a nut ball, or just chatised me to do it without really knowing me... all the while, I never gave up on telling the truth GOD is truly love and you are created with love and nothing outside of love lives forever. For many years I went to the chats to find people, who had the same love of everything (everything being created by GOD in it's full beauty and free will in choice). It wasn't that I was acting with ego or a better than you attitude - simply put, I did it because I truly care for people and that everlasting life is real. Last evening around 12am reading the article made me feel at peace knowing that a man (A MAN of GOD) has arrived in the place of peace we ALL SHOULD KNOW. Nobody on the earth is meant to be alone and/or feel alone, nobody. There is going to come to pass an event so HUGE and SO incredible that everybody truly will KNOW. GOD isn't about unlove, GOD is LOVE. Whether, you know why I am here or not my free will is to share the truth. A man in 1998 I spoke with introduced me to the book of knowledge that leads to everlasting life... I searched for years and years and YEARS and once coming upon it and truly noting PROVERBS and REVELATION... there is going to be a new world, a new earth and it will be everlasting. There will be many, who will break down his words in what he has said. That won't harm him, if such is done... once you reach a point of truth and it is instilled in you deep, nothing can touch you. You are protected and you are loved with a fountain a deep river of energy. Some may say they know what he is doing or that what he said is lies - well, only if you are living with him do you know what he does, if he lets you know. Remember, it's his life and truly he can do what he wants. The only judgement anybody should be concerned now - as eternity IS AT HAND, is the fact of GOD's judgement and your recognition towards him. I am closing this open moment with this... Mr. Prince Rogers Nelson I admire (as the table has turned and was once said to me) - I have much admiration for you, as well. With this being said, no matter where when or how... in heaven eternal and everlasting life - we all will be equal in love and the system of things will never stop an everlasting love in friendship - see you in the new world! I will be the one feeding the animals... Thank you. QuietSeven PS: Urs, Mark, Char, P & Brandon - I miss all of you and love you. | |
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such a clever man - take away vids on you tube and then probably charge the fans alot to see them on TV... Great musician and great business man too. | |
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WOW...I was shocked by the interview. He is deep.... Good for him.... He is stronger then me....Single, rich and being Prince....I couldn't be going home alone..... I am glad he explained the internet M.I.A.....I was waiting to hear what he thought about the stupid song pure cocain. Prime aka The Kid
"I need u to dance, I need u to strip I need u to shake Ur lil' ass n hips I need u to grind like Ur working for tips And give me what I need while we listen to PRINCE" | |
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Uhh uhh... . posting forbidden pix is cool.
 "LOVE YOURSELF AS ALL PEOPLE" | |
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Great interview!
Some questions: Prince don't vote? Say, what? He's his own lawyer, too? Is there anything this man can't do? He sold 3 million copies of Planet Earth to the Mail? My impression was that he GAVE AWAY 3 million copies. Which is it? "Plaid shorts are completely over." | |
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coooollll!  If you will, so will I | |
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serpan99 said: 7 brand new pics have been added 2 the initial post in this thread, and yes I did ask the mods first
If people are going to post pics from the book on this thread, what's the point of ordering the book? But hey, since the mods approved it.....
I guess I'll be sure not to look at the pics on here until my book arrives so it won't spoil appreciating the contents before it gets here. About the voting comment. I just feel if you don't vote, then why complain about societal or political ills? By not voting, one could stop the best candidate from winning. Just imagine all the JWs that don't vote, when their votes could be part of progress in America, as each vote is a voice of concern. Wow, but that's another discussion for the P&R forum. I'll just leave that alone for now. Anyway, look forward to recieving the book soon. [Edited 9/27/08 8:00am] | |
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2elijah said: serpan99 said: 7 brand new pics have been added 2 the initial post in this thread, and yes I did ask the mods first
If people are going to post pics from the book on this thread, what's the point of ordering the book? But hey, since the mods approved it.....
we're only allowing images from the book that have been released to the media. the understanding is, if that's what Prince/Atria Books okayed for the public to see in a magazine or on a news site, then it's cool to post here. beyond that...  | |
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On the personal tip, it sounds like Prince is finally growing up. It has to be the right person.....mmmmm. I have someone in mind. | |
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Anxiety said: purplecam said: As long as it's not Wal-Mart, then we cool. We don't have a Wal-Mart in NYC (shocking isn't it?) but we have loads of Best Buy's and we have Target's too!  is target still fairly exotic for NYC? i remember when i moved from NYC to chicago, target was like a magical retail wonderland because i never got to go on a target run as a new yorker...it was too out of the way. is there one in manhattan now, or conveniently located nearby? i'd be bummed out if prince struck a deal with wal-mart. i mean, come on. standards, dude.  Not in Manhattan yet but there are some in the outer Boroughs. There's going to be a new Target by the 145th St Bridge that takes you right into Harlem with the 3 train right there as you step into Manhattan. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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bellanoche said: 2freaky4church1 said: Celebate my ass! The guy is the biggest poon hound in rock history. He just says that so the JW's won't kick him out or they had him shut up for pr reasons. I haven't heard any news about him visiting houses for the religion, except that one article years ago.
The guy has been seen going into hotels with women. Trusting the tabloids..lol He wrote a song about Martin King but doesn't vote? Martin King died so you could vote you sorry sack of shit. People who don't vote should be kicked out of America, period. This election is too important. Bet he likes Palin as well. Intelligent design? eat me. The Devine! Wow, I bet is sounds like something from Diamonds And Pearls...lol You know he always overrates his stuff. The Real God needs to knock this guy in the beak. I usually don't respond to posts as ignorant as this, but I felt compelled to this time. Martin Luther King Jr. fought for the right for ALL citizens in this country to have equal rights, to be treated fairly as human beings with dignity and respect. He died because some idiot assasinated him. He didn't die for anyone to have the right to vote. Don't diminish/reduce his struggle to "the right to vote." Having the right to vote means that someone has the OPTION to vote or not to vote. That is the right that ALL citizens should have. It does not mean that they have to go out and vote, especially if it conflicts with their spiritual beliefs. The right to CHOOSE is the issue. When black people did not have the right to vote it meant that we did not have a choice. Prince, and the rest of us black folk now have the right to CHOOSE whether we want to take part in the voting process or not. Exercising one's right not to vote is as much about freedom as exercising the right to vote. It is not grounds to kick someone out of a country. That's a very ignorant proposition. Shouldn't people have the equal right to have views that are different from yours or even the majority for that matter? Also, if you have such a problem with Prince and his beliefs and lifestyle why are you on this site posting? Where are your facts and evidence to contradict anything he has said in this interview. I am all for people sharing different opinions here. However, your post is so vitriolic that it makes me wonder why you would spend time reading an interview and posting comments about a "sorry sack of shit," as you described him. You really need to get a life. You betta preach Bellanoche!  I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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His stereo includes the turntable his father gave him as a toddler.
This right here touched me deeply. It shows that he is sentimental. [Edited 9/27/08 9:41am] Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: purplecam said: As long as it's not Wal-Mart, then we cool. We don't have a Wal-Mart in NYC (shocking isn't it?) but we have loads of Best Buy's and we have Target's too! there's one in white plains  lol ..hop ur ass on metro north sonDude, you got some Metro North money for me to spend to get to White Plains? If I can't get to Wal-Mart on the Subway, then nah. But then again, I like Metro North so maybe I'll swing by when the money is right I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: bellanoche said: I usually don't respond to posts as ignorant as this, but I felt compelled to this time. Martin Luther King Jr. fought for the right for ALL citizens in this country to have equal rights, to be treated fairly as human beings with dignity and respect. He died because some idiot assasinated him. He didn't die for anyone to have the right to vote. Don't diminish/reduce his struggle to "the right to vote." Having the right to vote means that someone has the OPTION to vote or not to vote. That is the right that ALL citizens should have. It does not mean that they have to go out and vote, especially if it conflicts with their spiritual beliefs. The right to CHOOSE is the issue. When black people did not have the right to vote it meant that we did not have a choice. Prince, and the rest of us black folk now have the right to CHOOSE whether we want to take part in the voting process or not. Exercising one's right not to vote is as much about freedom as exercising the right to vote. It is not grounds to kick someone out of a country. That's a very ignorant proposition. Shouldn't people have the equal right to have views that are different from yours or even the majority for that matter? Also, if you have such a problem with Prince and his beliefs and lifestyle why are you on this site posting? Where are your facts and evidence to contradict anything he has said in this interview. I am all for people sharing different opinions here. However, your post is so vitriolic that it makes me wonder why you would spend time reading an interview and posting comments about a "sorry sack of shit," as you described him. You really need to get a life. You betta preach Bellanoche! Pure ignorance and so out-of-touch with reality. African-Americans and women always had the right not to vote. MLK spoke on numerous occasions about the necessity of voting. Just think, in 2000, a paltry 600 votes would've meant better health care, no war in Iraq (100,000+ lives lost), environmental advances, increases in stem-cell research increases and probable middle class economic growth. Prince speaks of corporate abuses and artistic freedom but he only wants changes for himself. Those corporate fat cats, right-wing zealots and conservatives are happy to hear a black man tell people not to vote. His stance actually promotes McCain. Republicans are pleased with low voter turnouts. | |
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