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Thread started 09/20/08 7:59am

raveon2tnek

starfish and coffee

the lyrics to this song seems cryptic.was prince trying to pass a coded message in that song?
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Reply #1 posted 09/20/08 8:20am

LizaWoman08

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raveon2tnek said:

the lyrics to this song seems cryptic.was prince trying to pass a coded message in that song?


yeah I think if you play it backwards you can hear creepy voices
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Reply #2 posted 09/20/08 8:25am

Dayclear

I don't think it's cryptic at all, to me he says just what he means.
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Reply #3 posted 09/20/08 9:02am

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It's not particularly cryptic.

He's writing about a girl (based on someone described to him by his then girlfriednd, Susannah Melvoin), who is mentally challenged and sees the world with a different perspective to others.
ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift.
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Reply #4 posted 09/20/08 9:40am

optimus

I thought they didnt believe lucy at first when she said she had "Starfish and Coffee" for breakfast and then when they opened her lunchbox "You know what we found"
So i thought it was about truth is stranger than fiction sotta thang confused
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Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul
The steps U take are no easy road
But the reward is great
4 those who want 2 go
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Reply #5 posted 09/20/08 11:16am

mELdOURADOsELV
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No doesnt' sound cryptic. Love this song by the way. Its cute. smile biggrin smile
mushy
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Reply #6 posted 09/20/08 11:50am

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optimus said:

I thought they didnt believe lucy at first when she said she had "Starfish and Coffee" for breakfast and then when they opened her lunchbox "You know what we found"
So i thought it was about truth is stranger than fiction sotta thang confused
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(I think you mean Cynthia rather than Lucy)

For me, one way of hearing it is:

When you open your mind to the merest possibility that, instead of dismissing a Cynthia - i.e.rejectinging someone, simply because they appear odd, or strange or make outlandish statements - maybe, just maybe, there's a different way of seeing things, then maybe it's worth taking just a fleeting moment to see things from someone else's point of view

And that point of view might open up a whole new, richer, imaginative, exciting perspective on life...?
ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift.
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Reply #7 posted 09/20/08 1:23pm

Riverpoet31

I agree with you on that view langeblue.

I think the 'starfish and coffee, maplesyrup and jam etc..' are just put in there to make the lyrics more colourfull, but the message in the background is that you shouldnt take everything on face-value, and that some one who might appear odd at first (Cynthia in this song) can be an interesting person, offering another, fresh point of view.
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Reply #8 posted 09/20/08 1:24pm

rbrpm

Was he? biggrin
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Reply #9 posted 09/20/08 1:25pm

Riverpoet31

By the way,

I still think its a brave step to put such a 'innocent' song about childhood memories right behind a song dealing with almost frustating sexual obsession (IT).

Somehow, with Prince, that 'works'.
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Reply #10 posted 09/20/08 1:49pm

optimus

langebleu said:

optimus said:

I thought they didnt believe lucy at first when she said she had "Starfish and Coffee" for breakfast and then when they opened her lunchbox "You know what we found"
So i thought it was about truth is stranger than fiction sotta thang confused
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(I think you mean Cynthia rather than Lucy)

For me, one way of hearing it is:

When you open your mind to the merest possibility that, instead of dismissing a Cynthia - i.e.rejectinging someone, simply because they appear odd, or strange or make outlandish statements - maybe, just maybe, there's a different way of seeing things, then maybe it's worth taking just a fleeting moment to see things from someone else's point of view

And that point of view might open up a whole new, richer, imaginative, exciting perspective on life...?


oh yeah it is cynthia...were did i get lucy from? lol sorry sad
Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul
The steps U take are no easy road
But the reward is great
4 those who want 2 go
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Reply #11 posted 09/20/08 1:57pm

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Riverpoet31 said:

By the way,

I still think its a brave step to put such a 'innocent' song about childhood memories right behind a song dealing with almost frustating sexual obsession (IT).

Somehow, with Prince, that 'works'.



falloff

NOW THAT IS INTERESTING!
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Reply #12 posted 09/21/08 6:02am

Tame

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Cynthia is a dreamer, and happy in her world where her imagination keeps her content.
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #13 posted 09/21/08 6:47am

eireboy34

Riverpoet31 said:

By the way,

I still think its a brave step to put such a 'innocent' song about childhood memories right behind a song dealing with almost frustating sexual obsession (IT).

Somehow, with Prince, that 'works'.



Really brave; he should get a medal.
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Reply #14 posted 09/21/08 7:06am

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I think the song replicates how children talk to each other.

Young children often boast about what they have or what they have done in their lives, even if they haven't done very much.

Also children are prone to exaggeration and making up stories.

Often children create their own fantasy world with fairies and make believe objects and characters.

Stafish and Coffee replicates this world of make believe and childhood innocence.

Also Cynthia seems to be the girl in the class who doesn't fit in. Probably making up stories to make herself more interesting to her classmates.

Prince depicts her as quirky and eccentric rather than weird and an odd-bod.

He's saying - we didn't believe in her but then we opened up her lunch box and we were wrong, she was telling the truth....

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Shut up already, damn.
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Reply #15 posted 09/21/08 12:24pm

mELdOURADOsELV
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cake song. star coffee
mushy
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Reply #16 posted 09/21/08 9:25pm

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mELdOURADOsELVAGEM said:

cake song. star coffee

He was on a different level with this song and album. Thanks Prince for all of the music over the years.
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Reply #17 posted 09/21/08 10:11pm

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langebleu said:



For me, one way of hearing it is:

When you open your mind to the merest possibility that, instead of dismissing a Cynthia - i.e.rejectinging someone, simply because they appear odd, or strange or make outlandish statements - maybe, just maybe, there's a different way of seeing things, then maybe it's worth taking just a fleeting moment to see things from someone else's point of view

And that point of view might open up a whole new, richer, imaginative, exciting perspective on life...?



Sweet.
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