babynoz said:

heh, if you just read the bold parts, sure. But one of the bold parts is an IF, not an absolute.

I just don't get the thread. That's all. Prince does what he does. We can all go fuck ourselves.

I never met a person that berated Prince for not being funky enough, so I am kinda puzzled about the people Pimp tries to call out. That's all.

Bring back the "Does Prince Chew Gum?" threads. They make much more sense than the ish that BPs been spouting.

BlurredEye said:

I thought about this and it just dawned on me. You noticed how BP is acting on this thread right? Now remember the threads that tricky99 was starting up last week and how defensive BP was towards tricky99. Notice on this thread how BP is doing the same thing that he was accusing tricky99 of doing, going back and responding to people and damn near demanding that people give proof of how Prince is a funk artist, the same way tricky was demanding that people give proof as to who's done better music than Prince in the last 3 years. He's a pure example of "pot calling the kettle black."

Here's the thread that I'm talking about from last week:

http://prince.org/msg/7/279233

purplecam said:

Lol.....count down 2 BP backtracking.....

i think bp went in2 the studio with his "funk collabarators" 2 recut a song called "talking loud and saying shit" cause that's all he's been doing.

he wants xamples but doesn't provide nothing on his own except fruit at the bottom..which is a funky song but compared 2 say hmmm la la la he he hee which came out around the same time...lawd have mercy he needs his ears cleaned

i think bp went in2 the studio with his "funk collabarators" 2 recut a song called "talking loud and saying shit" cause that's all he's been doing. he wants xamples but doesn't provide nothing on his own except fruit at the bottom..which is a funky song but compared 2 say hmmm la la la he he hee which came out around the same time...lawd have mercy he needs his ears cleaned

L4OATheOriginal said:

Lol.....I have a whole box of q-tips if he needs them.

Graycap23 said:

now now grey ..between u, myself and cam he'll resort 2 calling us kool aid drinkers ..

L4OATheOriginal said:

lol.....I just call them as I see them.

Graycap23 said:

i feel ya ..cause that's y i laugh at all those revolution lovers out there that can't LETITGO (r1) and others ..

laurarichardson said:

Again, (and try to not be so defensive about this) I don't think ya'll get what funk truly is. Funk didn't "die in the 80's" and the Minneapolis guys "put their stamp on it". The "Minneapolis Sound" has very little to do with "funk" actually, and is its own genre entirely.

Graycap23 said:

Funk was "damned near dead" when P came along?
REALLY?

And you get what i'm trying to say, Gray.
Not forefather in the sense that he created it, in the sense where he deserves to get mentioned in the same breath as George, Bootsy, Sly or James. Or Betty Davis.

James Brown, The JB's, Fred Wesley and Betty Davis laid the foundation of what funk truly is.

James Brown - last funk album 1974 (The Payback)

Ifsixwuz9 said:

WTF?? Brown released numerous great Funk albums after "Payback".

MrSoulpower said:

Were they any good?

Graycap23 said:

Of course. Hell was released right after Payback. I don't think you'd argue against tracks like Papa don't take no mess, would you? That album was followed by Reality, which had Funky President.
Then came Sex Machine Today, Mutha Nature, Get up offa that thing, Bodyheat, Jam 1980s and more ... all of them great Funk albums.

MrSoulpower said:

I'm askimng because unless I look at the albums or play them, the dates don't do much 4 me these days. Once P-Funk and Bootsy came along, I gave James up. When Flashlight hit, James was OVR in my book.

Graycap23 said:

I think that the post Mutha Nature albums all the way until his 1980 Live in Japan were still great albums, though they did have some filler tracks. But I guess that's okay, Prince's albums are full of fillers.

Prince is the funkiest all around entertainer there is out there, trust me, what you hear on these cd's and albums is not HALF of what that man is all about,!
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1980s and stripped-down funk

In the 1980s, many of the core elements that formed the foundation of the P-Funk formula began to be usurped by electronic machines and synthesizers. Horn sections of saxophones and trumpets were replaced by synth keyboards, and the horns that remained were given simplified lines, and few horn solos. The classic keyboards of funk, like the Hammond B3 organ and the Fender Rhodes piano began to be replaced by the new digital synthesizers such as the Yamaha DX7.

Electronic drum machines began to replace the "funky drummers" of the past, and the slap and pop style of bass playing were often replaced by synth keyboard bass lines. As well, the lyrics of funk songs began to change from suggestive double entendres to more graphic and sexually explicit content.

Rick James was the first funk musician of the 1980s to assume the funk mantle dominated by P-Funk in the 1970s. His 1981 album Street Songs with the singles "Give It To Me Baby" and "Super Freak" resulted in James becoming a bit of a rock star, and paved the way for the future direction of explicitness in funk.
Prince used a stripped-down instrumentation similar to Rick James, and went on to have as much of an impact on the sound of funk as any one artist since James Brown.

Prince combined eroticism, technology, an increasing musical complexity, and an outrageous image and stage show to ultimately create a musical world as ambitious and imaginative as P-Funk or The Beatles. The Time, originally conceived as an opening act for Prince and based on his "Minneapolis sound", hybrid mixture of funk, rock, pop, R&B & new wave. They went on to define their own style of stripped-down funk based on tight musicianship and sexual themes.
Bands that began during the 1970s P-Funk era incorporated some of the uninhibited sexuality of Prince and state-of-the-art technological developments to continue to craft funk hits. Cameo, Zapp, The Gap Band, The Bar-Kays, and The Dazz Band all found their biggest hits in the 80s, but by the latter half of the 80s, funk had lost its commercial impact.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funk