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Thread started 08/15/08 11:17am

tricky99

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Prince's latest music is garbage

Fellow fans please help an old-timer like myself understand why other so-called fans believe this so forcefully. And need to come here to tell us this. I honestly don't get it. Why are they angry? They seem so upset that Prince doesn't produce music they like.

It almost seems like they feel Prince owes it to them to satisfy whatever their notion of quality is. I trust Prince. Meaning that I believe the material he releases he feels its good stuff. If I don't like it its on me. I don't get all the angst and calling people who like it kool-aids sippers and the like.

I'm not a Bruce Sringteen fan. I have liked some of his songs but even the ones I was unmoved by I never considered them shit, or crap, or garbage and I'm not even a fan lol.

Is it the internet with its anonomousness (sp) that brings out such extreme opinions? I mean if Prince is producing garbage what's all this other dreck I hear on the radio all the time?

Is a part of this the "john lennon effect"? Where u love someone so much that eventually it turns to hate because they fall off of whatever pedastal u placed them on. What are your thoughts.
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Reply #1 posted 08/15/08 11:19am

Handel

I think you are being too intense about this and maybe setting yourself up for big heartache and a gastric ulcer...
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Reply #2 posted 08/15/08 11:21am

tricky99

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Handel said:

I think you are being too intense about this and maybe setting yourself up for big heartache and a gastric ulcer...


No. I'm cool just trying to understand this phenononom (sp)
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Reply #3 posted 08/15/08 11:22am

Graycap23

It says more about them than Prince.
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Reply #4 posted 08/15/08 11:22am

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man...you are on a tear about this stuff.

I hear what you are saying.....I've often said Prince's fans have got to be the hardest group of fans out there.
why people get so upset over prince not performing up to their expectations is beyond me....I can only imagine it all boils down to....ready for this? LOVE
Sometimes when you love someone so much you have very high expectations for them...and when they don't come through for you (in your opinion)...you get mad. I used to do this with my mom when I was a kid.
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #5 posted 08/15/08 11:22am

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Why should this forum only be about adulation? If someone feels Prince's recent output is crap, they should be able to say so without everyone crying about it. My favorite album, Lovesexy, is mocked ridiculed and hated by many.
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #6 posted 08/15/08 11:24am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Why should this forum only be about adulation? If someone feels Prince's recent output is crap, they should be able to say so without everyone crying about it. My favorite album, Lovesexy, is mocked ridiculed and hated by many.

Ditto.


We're Prince fans--not Republicans.
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Reply #7 posted 08/15/08 11:24am

wonder505

tricky99 why do you care????

just like what you like for goodness sakes.
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Reply #8 posted 08/15/08 11:24am

Handel

Well, not trying to burst your bubble or anything but this is the org and you'd be much better off starting a thread on Prince's chest hair or something rather than requesting deep analysis from assorted nutters like us
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Reply #9 posted 08/15/08 11:26am

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Handel said:

Well, not trying to burst your bubble or anything but this is the org and you'd be much better off starting a thread on Prince's chest hair or something rather than requesting deep analysis from assorted nutters like us

and that's the kicker. Many of us who have been critical of his lazy uninspired output have created threads seriously analyzing his music and paying tribute to the genius he has displayed.
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Reply #10 posted 08/15/08 11:27am

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Okay, I like his old shit more compared to his new shit. Hell, I mostly dig 78-83. (I'm the world's worst Prince fan, I know)

But, you know, I think some of it is that his new music has no memories attached to it, no connotations. I mean, when you're a kid, that stuff mean a lot to you, waiting days to get a new record the day it comes out. Losing your virginity to Adore or some shit like that. Your first concert being the PR tour.
When you're 38, that ain't happening no more. You're life's got other priorities.
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Reply #11 posted 08/15/08 11:28am

Imago

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Handel said:

Well, not trying to burst your bubble or anything but this is the org and you'd be much better off starting a thread on Prince's chest hair or something rather than requesting deep analysis from assorted nutters like us

and that's the kicker. Many of us who have been critical of his lazy uninspired output have created threads seriously analyzing his music and paying tribute to the genius he has displayed.



Yup.


THis is my "Defense of Emancipation" Review I posted as AsianBomb777
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http://prince.org/msg/7/131624



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Reply #12 posted 08/15/08 11:28am

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Imago said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Why should this forum only be about adulation? If someone feels Prince's recent output is crap, they should be able to say so without everyone crying about it. My favorite album, Lovesexy, is mocked ridiculed and hated by many.

Ditto.


We're Prince fans--not Republicans.

^ spit
I love this guy.
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Reply #13 posted 08/15/08 11:32am

ButterscotchPi
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Don't we have this going on ANOTHER thread already?
Do we need 2-3 of these with the SAME arguments?
http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
y'all gone keep messin' around wit me and turn me back to the old me......
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Reply #14 posted 08/15/08 11:32am

Imago

ToraToraDreams said:

Imago said:


Ditto.


We're Prince fans--not Republicans.

^ spit
I love this guy.



I love you too ky
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Reply #15 posted 08/15/08 11:32am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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ToraToraDreams said:

Okay, I like his old shit more compared to his new shit. Hell, I mostly dig 78-83. (I'm the world's worst Prince fan, I know)

But, you know, I think some of it is that his new music has no memories attached to it, no connotations. I mean, when you're a kid, that stuff mean a lot to you, waiting days to get a new record the day it comes out. Losing your virginity to Adore or some shit like that. Your first concert being the PR tour.
When you're 38, that ain't happening no more. You're life's got other priorities.

This is true but then again, isn't the James Brown version 50.8 kinda tired? lol Create shit we can' attach new memories to, and many of us have (7/7/7 in Minnie for example w/ 3121). As grown ups, we know laziness when we hear it lol
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Reply #16 posted 08/15/08 11:33am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Why should this forum only be about adulation? If someone feels Prince's recent output is crap, they should be able to say so without everyone crying about it. My favorite album, Lovesexy, is mocked ridiculed and hated by many.




MY FUCKING POINT, EXACTLY.

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http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
y'all gone keep messin' around wit me and turn me back to the old me......
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Reply #17 posted 08/15/08 11:33am

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Imago said:

ToraToraDreams said:


^ spit
I love this guy.



I love you too ky

I know ky is your way of saying something beautiful. touched
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Reply #18 posted 08/15/08 11:35am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ToraToraDreams said:

Okay, I like his old shit more compared to his new shit. Hell, I mostly dig 78-83. (I'm the world's worst Prince fan, I know)

But, you know, I think some of it is that his new music has no memories attached to it, no connotations. I mean, when you're a kid, that stuff mean a lot to you, waiting days to get a new record the day it comes out. Losing your virginity to Adore or some shit like that. Your first concert being the PR tour.
When you're 38, that ain't happening no more. You're life's got other priorities.

This is true but then again, isn't the James Brown version 50.8 kinda tired? lol Create shit we can' attach new memories to, and many of us have (7/7/7 in Minnie for example w/ 3121). As grown ups, we know laziness when we hear it lol

I can dig it.
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Reply #19 posted 08/15/08 11:36am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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ToraToraDreams said:

Imago said:




I love you too ky

I know ky is your way of saying something beautiful. touched

don't know his dick lips could talk didja? wink
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Reply #20 posted 08/15/08 11:39am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ToraToraDreams said:


I know ky is your way of saying something beautiful. touched

don't know his dick lips could talk didja? wink

I know way more than I want to know about most of the people on this forum. heart
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Reply #21 posted 08/15/08 11:40am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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ToraToraDreams said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


don't know his dick lips could talk didja? wink

I know way more than I want to know about most of the people on this forum. heart

falloff lol hug
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Reply #22 posted 08/15/08 11:49am

tricky99

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Shorty said:

man...you are on a tear about this stuff.

I hear what you are saying.....I've often said Prince's fans have got to be the hardest group of fans out there.
why people get so upset over prince not performing up to their expectations is beyond me....I can only imagine it all boils down to....ready for this? LOVE
Sometimes when you love someone so much you have very high expectations for them...and when they don't come through for you (in your opinion)...you get mad. I used to do this with my mom when I was a kid.


I hear u. it seems that some fans don't ever consider that maybe Prince can't meet there expectations. maybe he is doing the best he can at any given moment finding inspiration as it comes. He's not the wizard of oz and can't produce magical music just because he or a fan wants him too. Instead of letting go some seem to cling to him in a negative manner, its interesting.
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Reply #23 posted 08/15/08 11:50am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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tricky99 said:

Shorty said:

man...you are on a tear about this stuff.

I hear what you are saying.....I've often said Prince's fans have got to be the hardest group of fans out there.
why people get so upset over prince not performing up to their expectations is beyond me....I can only imagine it all boils down to....ready for this? LOVE
Sometimes when you love someone so much you have very high expectations for them...and when they don't come through for you (in your opinion)...you get mad. I used to do this with my mom when I was a kid.


I hear u. it seems that some fans don't ever consider that maybe Prince can't meet there expectations. maybe he is doing the best he can at any given moment finding inspiration as it comes. He's not the wizard of oz and can't produce magical music just because he or a fan wants him too. Instead of letting go some seem to cling to him in a negative manner, its interesting.


How about Prince letting go and finally working with a producer since his shit is getting stale?
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Reply #24 posted 08/15/08 11:51am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Why should this forum only be about adulation? If someone feels Prince's recent output is crap, they should be able to say so without everyone crying about it. My favorite album, Lovesexy, is mocked ridiculed and hated by many.


And I find that sad. Even if I didn't like it (I love it actually). Why would I need to mock it and hate it. Those are destructive acts. Who benefits from that?
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Reply #25 posted 08/15/08 11:52am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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tricky99 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Why should this forum only be about adulation? If someone feels Prince's recent output is crap, they should be able to say so without everyone crying about it. My favorite album, Lovesexy, is mocked ridiculed and hated by many.


And I find that sad. Even if I didn't like it (I love it actually). Why would I need to mock it and hate it. Those are destructive acts. Who benefits from that?

those who want to let off steam by trashing it! lol
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Reply #26 posted 08/15/08 11:53am

tricky99

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Handel said:

Well, not trying to burst your bubble or anything but this is the org and you'd be much better off starting a thread on Prince's chest hair or something rather than requesting deep analysis from assorted nutters like us


U may have a point. level of discourse on housequake seems to a step up from the org. I wonder why. May have to do with it being European based.
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Reply #27 posted 08/15/08 11:54am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

Don't we have this going on ANOTHER thread already?
Do we need 2-3 of these with the SAME arguments?


U know u don't have click on this thread right?
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Reply #28 posted 08/15/08 11:57am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

tricky99 said:



I hear u. it seems that some fans don't ever consider that maybe Prince can't meet there expectations. maybe he is doing the best he can at any given moment finding inspiration as it comes. He's not the wizard of oz and can't produce magical music just because he or a fan wants him too. Instead of letting go some seem to cling to him in a negative manner, its interesting.


How about Prince letting go and finally working with a producer since his shit is getting stale?


I've really seen a change in u over the years. From positive to negative. Seems u were realy effected by the whole Prince vs fansites thing.
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Reply #29 posted 08/15/08 11:59am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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tricky99 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



How about Prince letting go and finally working with a producer since his shit is getting stale?


I've really seen a change in u over the years. From positive to negative. Seems u were realy effected by the whole Prince vs fansites thing.

lol Yeah, I'm not the kind to kiss someone's ass when they slap me in the face.
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