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Thread started 11/08/02 8:06pm

TerryD

Wrong time to release a live Prince CD maybe

I did not really enjoy the One Nite Alone show that much I would of rather have a live CD of the Lovesexy tour. Why did Prince not do a live CD when he was really hot? Is Prince releasing a live CD too late? Will the CD get the exposure it deserves?

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Reply #1 posted 11/08/02 9:39pm

wishuhvn

The cd might be being released too late as far as Prince's "heyday" but it is getting exposure. Just tonight my showed me a clip about the new box set in Entertainment Weekly...Heck, we the members are getting the set and seem to know less than the general media. The show was great but give me the video...
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Reply #2 posted 11/08/02 11:03pm

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TerryD said:

I did not really enjoy the One Nite Alone show that much I would of rather have a live CD of the Lovesexy tour. Why did Prince not do a live CD when he was really hot? Is Prince releasing a live CD too late? Will the CD get the exposure it deserves?

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I think Prince is in his second prime right now, if there is such a thing. Personally I love what he's doing now and I've a feeling I'm going to like this live set nearly as much as all the classic albums of the 80s.
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Reply #3 posted 11/08/02 11:08pm

eviled

The Lovesexy show was all medleys. That doesn't translate well when put on cd. ONA live will be great because it's full length versions of songs played for the first time. Just watch SOTT again and you will know what I mean.
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Reply #4 posted 11/09/02 12:08am

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I agree with Eviled. I don't think a live album of the Lovesexy tour would have been a good idea. I love the studio album, but the show was more of a visual feast. ONA on the other hand was more focused on the music and musicians than the '80s mega-concert spectacle. This is why the SOTT video is so good.
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Reply #5 posted 11/09/02 12:42am

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Come on boys and girls! Why does still everybody says that Prince never released a live album?

There are all those official videos existing of the previous shows, and if u own the accurate material then you can play it with a perfect sound quality, and even transfer it to CD.

Why would i need a live CD of the "Lovesexy Tour" when the VHS and LaserDisc of the same show does exist? I'm also not really enthousiast about the release of a live CD Box, i would much have preferred to get a DVD release. Then we could have both the sound and picture. Hey Prince, it's multimedia times now! smile
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Reply #6 posted 11/09/02 1:08am

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several years back JOE JACKSON released a live album that encompased several tours. To show how different they were, he actually put several versions of IS SHE REALLY GOING OUT WITH HIM on it to show how he had grown/changed as an artist.

The album is amazing. It is unfortunate that Prince didn't want to do something like that. Each side could be a part or highlights from that tour. Make is 6 sides... 3-4 disks...

I like it. is it in the mail yet?
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Reply #7 posted 11/09/02 1:16am

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It's only gonna sell 2 us anyway, a random buyer won't pick it up because its 3 cd's anyway & is gonna retail at around $50 so it's not gonna fly is it...personaly I can't wait!
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Reply #8 posted 11/09/02 1:44am

nas3110

TerryD said:[quote]I did not really enjoy the One Nite Alone show that much I would of rather have a live CD of the Lovesexy tour. Why did Prince not do a live CD when he was really hot?

That's why people buy bootlegs.
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Reply #9 posted 11/09/02 1:48am

Haystack

I don't think it's going to sell particularly well because the tracks on it are just too obscure. Non fans will pick it up in the shop, look puzzled at the tracklist and then put it back on the shelf. Prince may be trying to spread his message by putting the songs that mean the most to him on the CDs, but he ain't going to be spreading it very far - only to the already converted.
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Reply #10 posted 11/09/02 4:02am

Dan

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How can u not enjoy the One Nite Alone show???!!!

He is releasing a cd with a mixture of old and new...whats wrong with that??...he's trying 2 keep every 1 happy...he's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't.
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Reply #11 posted 11/09/02 4:06am

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CalhounSquare said:

blah blah blickety blah!


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Reply #12 posted 11/09/02 5:14am

Pellwormer

no way!

Lovesexy was nice 2 be there, but I got a boot of the concert u know as a video...and it sucks.
I can hardly listen 2 this. ONA tour is the only one I know (I was on concert in 1986, '88 and '90 and I have some boots) where the sound IS good. He wasn't better than now.

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Reply #13 posted 11/09/02 9:11am

HalluRain

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CalhounSquare said:

Come on boys and girls! Why does still everybody says that Prince never released a live album?

There are all those official videos existing of the previous shows, and if u own the accurate material then you can play it with a perfect sound quality, and even transfer it to CD.

Why would i need a live CD of the "Lovesexy Tour" when the VHS and LaserDisc of the same show does exist? I'm also not really enthousiast about the release of a live CD Box, i would much have preferred to get a DVD release. Then we could have both the sound and picture. Hey Prince, it's multimedia times now! smile


Where do you find these officially released videos? The only ones I know of are "Prince and the Revolution -- Live" from '85 and SOTT. Was the Lovesexy tour officially released to video? Or Nude? Act I or II? Jam of the Year? I'm dying to see these, so if you've got some info, please share!
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Reply #14 posted 11/09/02 9:40am

mistermaxxx

Dippydippydope said:

several years back JOE JACKSON released a live album that encompased several tours. To show how different they were, he actually put several versions of IS SHE REALLY GOING OUT WITH HIM on it to show how he had grown/changed as an artist.

The album is amazing. It is unfortunate that Prince didn't want to do something like that. Each side could be a part or highlights from that tour. Make is 6 sides... 3-4 disks...

I like it. is it in the mail yet?
Now I like that Concept the Best overall.
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Reply #15 posted 11/09/02 10:39am

Pellwormer

HalluRain said:

CalhounSquare said:

Come on boys and girls! Why does still everybody says that Prince never released a live album?

There are all those official videos existing of the previous shows, and if u own the accurate material then you can play it with a perfect sound quality, and even transfer it to CD.

Why would i need a live CD of the "Lovesexy Tour" when the VHS and LaserDisc of the same show does exist? I'm also not really enthousiast about the release of a live CD Box, i would much have preferred to get a DVD release. Then we could have both the sound and picture. Hey Prince, it's multimedia times now! smile


Where do you find these officially released videos? The only ones I know of are "Prince and the Revolution -- Live" from '85 and SOTT. Was the Lovesexy tour officially released to video? Or Nude? Act I or II? Jam of the Year? I'm dying to see these, so if you've got some info, please share!


Lovesexy. U were able 2 buy it in the wrecka staw, but now it is delayed. I got mine 'Lovesexy part 1 & 2' (2 videos) from e-bay. Not that xpensive.
There r also (officials): 'Undertaker' 'The sacrifice 0f Victor' (Aftershow' and 'Beautiful strange' (Concert mmmh aftershow? from 1998 I think) and of course 'rave..' I have the nude tour (Japan) on video (telly) but I don't know if it was official released. Did I miss something?
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Reply #16 posted 11/09/02 12:30pm

Wolf

there has never been an officially released live Prince album.
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Reply #17 posted 11/09/02 1:25pm

pimpytheclown

Re: LOVESEXY

I have the "Lovesexy" tour video,"Lovesexy88" and a double album of the tour "Livesexy".

It's a FACINATING watch/listen for ANY Prince fan, -BUT-

* The "dirty" first-half of the show is mostly MEDLEY's of his raunchier stuff, and not all that satisfying.
"Erotic City" opens the show kind of weirdly, the choreography is kind of silly, and is not that well sung, which leads into,"Housequake" which is just like the "SOTT" tour. The "Adore/Delirious/Jack u Off/Sister" Medley, the "Blues in C" bit, the intermission between the "Dirty" music and the "Lovesexy"half of the show, and MOST of the "Lovesexy" material hoonsetly don't make for GREAT listens-you get the feeling the show was something to EXPERIENCE rather than throw on your CD player!

"Glam Slam", "Lovesexy","Eye No" are NOT GOOD live songs!"Alphabet St.", on this tour is also not strong. "I Wish U Heaven's" call-and-response ALSO would get tedious in your car cd player.


People on this site seem to have a real love affair with "Lovesexy" the album, but the tour of that disc is kind of a "you had to be there" thing. "ONE NITE ALONE" is STRONGER in it's singing, musicianship, and showmanship.The rose colored glasses need to be taken off for "Lovesexy" the tour as a live release in 2002.

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Reply #18 posted 11/09/02 1:33pm

pimpytheclown

The ALTERNATIVE to a live disc would be another studio disc. We've got 30+ of those. It is never a bad time for a LIVE cd, it only exposes another dimension of Prince's art, whereas a new studio cd is nothing the public gets excited for anymore.
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Reply #19 posted 11/09/02 2:01pm

FreezerBurn

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I do not understand his marketing strategy. He releases "The Rainbow Children" in wide release, but gives it to the music club first. So the only people that would buy it already have it. Now he is doing the same thing with "One Night Alone Live." This will only cause further embarrassment when the sales numbers are released. Any one who would pay $50.00 for this would most likely already be a club member anyway.
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Reply #20 posted 11/10/02 1:04pm

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Slightly off topic but I this is something else interesting about Joe Jackson and live albums...His album Big World was actually a live album that he recorded in a small club in NYC and the audience was told not to applaud or make any noise. The album has a distinct sound to it but you just can't figure out what it is until you know it was live. Next to Prince, Joe Jackson is one of the most interesting musicians and performers out there. 95% of the artists on tour today might as well just play their CD and dance around on the stage. But artists like Prince and JJ are constantly reworking their own songs for their own enjoyment as well as ours. Now that I respect.

As for the ONA Live, it will be nice to have an official box set. But, with all of us being on the internet I would be curious to know how many of us have downloaded the boots of the tour already. I personally have the boot from the NYC aftershow at World and love it. Mostly because I was there and I can hear my self scream at one point. But I digress. I will always purchase any new releases though. I only download things which aren't commercially available. I was just wondering if anyone else felt the same way about getting the ONA Live set even though it's widely available on the net. Personally, I want new material. Give us Xenophobia.
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Reply #21 posted 11/10/02 1:09pm

Thecherryloon

live albums never sell that well, whoever the act is.Prince's triple live album will be a sales disaster.Only the hardcore is interested.
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Reply #22 posted 11/14/02 7:42pm

origmnd

It is odd that whereas other artists release live CDs Prince has always either
released a live video or does a tv concert.

This box set will be great. It would be awesome to get a retrospective of great performances of his entire touring career. Maybe pre-PR, PR, SOTT/Lovesexy, and
early and late 90's== 5 CDs
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Reply #23 posted 11/15/02 3:13am

DavidEye

Thecherryloon said:

live albums never sell that well, whoever the act is.Prince's triple live album will be a sales disaster.Only the hardcore is interested.



Very true.But I don't think Prince has high sales expectations for this project anyway.It's more like a "souvenir" for the diehard fans,and it will probably sell even less than 'TRC'.
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Reply #24 posted 11/15/02 4:08am

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LoveSexy tour (although musically brilliant) was more of a visual thing. I have LoveSexy Live on audio CD taken from the video and it highlights how it doesn't quite work. There's lots of parts were u need 2 c what's goin' on and songs are brief and at times just hinted at.

ONA has a massive emphasis on the music first! Listening to that on a pair of headphones will be amazing! It will make perfect sense!

LoveSexy 4 me was his best 'SHOW' but ONA has got to be one of his best 'MUSICAL' performances!
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Reply #25 posted 11/15/02 4:24am

THE14U

BOUT TIME!!!
Prince does it at the right time, if U ask me. Now that he has showed me and many other fams, what He is made of.
It`s time 2 let the rest of the WORLD. If people know good music (live), Prince will spellbind many!!!
I don`t care if people like it or not, I will.
LIVE4FREEDOM
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Reply #26 posted 11/15/02 4:29am

joelmarable

he needs 2 add a live video of the concert with it 2 b different. i know this wont sell 2 anyone but prince hard core fans so he wont break any records witha lbum sells bad move.
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