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Reply #60 posted 08/10/08 9:01pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Baylana said:



She may have made the song her own, but I disliked her interpretation of it. It has nothing to do with P writing the song to begin with as I had not heard the original when I heard Sinead's version. When I finally heard P's live version with Rosie Gaines I liked it. I have not heard The Family's version so I may or may not like that.



Prince & Rosie's is best by far,
but I have The Family album still and its not a bad track.



Im my humble opinion, I prefer them in the order I heard them in.
The Family, Sinead, and then,Prince & Rosie (which to me is not that great- Prince still seems to think of it as an afterthought but if people like it . . )
Sinead is fine.
I have 36 Sinead tracks in my ITunes library.
As with Prince I tend to separate the artist from the individual.
Whatever individuals do, they do with or without my consent and I can agree or disagree.
I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think.
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Reply #61 posted 08/10/08 9:47pm

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SUPRMAN said:

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4 ruining a good song with her horrendous version of it? shrug



She did not ruin the song! I think she did a great reading of it.
She only heard The Family version from the album so she never heard Prince perform it before she recorded it.


and the only way she heard of the family's version was through her manager at the time ...steven fargnoli ..coincidence?
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #62 posted 08/10/08 9:55pm

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Sinead was on Oprah sometime in the last two years and she admitted that she suffers from bi-polar disorder. Maybe she wasn't on her meds when she told the story. Maybe Prince reacted to her freaking out. They tend to be paranoid and very dramatic when they are off their meds.
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Reply #63 posted 08/11/08 1:21am

SoulAlive

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Sinead O'Connor Rolling Stone article (24th January, 1991)

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© Rolling Stone Magazine / Hot Press



I don't know what to make of this story.I mean,we've all heard stories of Prince mistreating his women and of course,we've all seen "Purple Rain"....but this story sounds really strange hmmm plus,Sinead is a bit on the crazy side.
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Reply #64 posted 08/11/08 2:01am

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All the hating needs to stop. First of all, did Prince never do ANYTHING to get attention? Uh, just his entire career, and Sinead's version of NC2U, may not be some FAMS favourite vs. it was one of the biggest hits of that year and was a critical success to boot. The album that came from is a classic and Sinead is a true artist.

She pushed the boundries of what a woman was allowed to do, say and look like in the 80's, when everyone wanted to be Madonna, she shaved her head and wore Doc Martens. If I know anything about her at all, it is that she never gave a $#&* about what people thought...and as for her being ugly, that is a matter of personal taste, but seems very crass and low to resort to that kind of commenting.THAT"S ugly. I think she's beautiful, but there are people who think Prince is ugly and freaky looking...gasp! were u aware?

I, for one, find it very easy to believe that he did what she said. She has no reason to lie, even to get attention, which is ludicrous, yeah, tell the world one of everyones favourite pop stars and songwriters is a misogynist control freak with anger issues! Doesn't seem so strange now does it? After all these years...back then I didn't want to believe that story. Now I know better.

I am rapidly losing interest in Prince and have lost an anormous amount of respect for him, for many various issues we all are aware of. From religion to the music, to controlling the internet, I'm just bored and over it. His music hasn't evolved, it has regressed. He now is just a very good old skool r&b performer in the mold of James and E W &F, et al...remember when he changed his sound every album, when every new song was a true NEW experience? I'm beginning to think it WAS Wendy & Lisa!!

Sinead rocks! She still pushes the envelope and does her thing, instead of sitting on her laurels, playing her hits in Vegas.
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Reply #65 posted 08/11/08 2:31am

purplesweat

I find it fucking REPULSIVE that some people here seem to WANT this to have happened.

Prince is and always has been DELUSIONAL. Just listening to him speak in interviews in the 80s - he's off with the fairies!

Not to mention how well he acted being abusive towards Apples in PR. For all the talk of his shit acting, he sure did those scenes well!

But everyone politely puts those facts aside when the perpetrator is male. A crazy female however?

WHAT THE FUCK? SOMEONE BEAT DOWN THAT CRAZY WHORE! SHE'S UGLY ANYWAY!

Sorry, but this whole thread is fucking retarded.

"She wasn't lady like"

um.....SO?!?!!?!!?!?!

Is that a reason to beat a woman up? It's HER decision how SHE looks and Prince had no right to even say "Put a dress on and stop swearing". He's allowed to parade around in a gstring humping everything in sight but a woman can't shave her head and speak out?

This is why I HATE Prince as a person.
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Reply #66 posted 08/11/08 4:07am

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FUCK that ball-headed coked out bitch! I never liked her, Never believed the story. If it was so true then why didn't she call the cops and press charges against him or even file a lawsuit? She went downhill fast, tearing up pics of the Pope on SNL, then at one time she said Prince tried to rape her. [Snip - luv4u]


she claimed that Prince tried to rape her? confuse hmmm I never heard that before.
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Reply #67 posted 08/11/08 4:15am

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We must excuse these FAMS on here that think P can do no wrong. He did it its over lets move on.


What do you think Prince's motivation was?


Sinead claims that it was pure jealousy."His problem is that I did a song of his without him being involved," she said."He's jealous.And he did tell me that he wishes I had never done his song.I think that,frankly,that song saved his fucking ass.He was in serious financial trouble until that song happened".


eek

If this story is true,Prince really picked the wrong woman to mess with.Sinead is not like his other female proteges who probably wouldn't have said anything.No,Sinead went straight to the media to tell her side,lol.
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Reply #68 posted 08/11/08 4:27am

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simm0061 said:

LinnLM1 said:



What do you think Prince's motivation was?

Sinead said in previous interviews that P didn't like that 1) she did his song without his consent 2) she wasn't lady like 3) she refused to allow the singing of the national anthem at one of her shows.
She apparently told him to go fuck himself and he retorted that he should "kick her ass."

I'm sure he threatened her. I'm sure that he even intentionally tried to scare the hell out of her. But I can't imagine he would be foolish enough to actually get physical. No way dude would ever risk going to jail by doing something like that. Plus didn't Hucky (P's bodyguard) say he was there and that it didn't happen?


Yeah,I think that he probably did threaten her,probably just to scare her.He has a long history of intimidating women and getting into heated arguments with them.Apollonia has said that,when she left the Prince camp in 1985,he got all pissed and yelled at her."He told me that I would never make it without him",she said.
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Reply #69 posted 08/11/08 10:31am

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Wow, battle lines are being drawn here. I think every one needs to calm a little smile

A converation can occur between two people and they both go away thinking different things were said/happened. We will never truly know what happened in that room, we all have ideas and that is fine but to hate on P or Sinead for a supposed act is a little harsh.
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Reply #70 posted 08/11/08 10:51am

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Baylana said:

Wow, battle lines are being drawn here. I think every one needs to calm a little smile

A converation can occur between two people and they both go away thinking different things were said/happened. We will never truly know what happened in that room, we all have ideas and that is fine but to hate on P or Sinead for a supposed act is a little harsh.

thumbs up! Right on. It's all water under the bridge. Opinions are one thing, but personal attacks are rather unnecessary. Plus, I've actually kinda always dug Sinead - she's one ballsy chic, her voice is amazing, and I actually find her to be quite beautiful.
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Reply #71 posted 08/11/08 10:53am

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I actually find her to be quite beautiful.


I find her kinda beautiful in an ugly way
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Reply #72 posted 08/11/08 11:09am

Madison88

This whole thread is just sad sad
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Reply #73 posted 08/11/08 11:31am

Erika2k8

After hearing the original she really did kinda ruin the emotion of the song THIS IS JUST MY OPINION
and ask for what she said about Prince i do not believe it at all shes a bit of a nut job in my opinion.
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Reply #74 posted 08/11/08 12:18pm

30peacessilver

Why piss one person off when you can do it 2 many. prince and sinead had a pissing contest.who cares! besides sinead sang that song the best! princes voice sucked razz compared 2 hers and that song. lol
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Reply #75 posted 08/12/08 1:34pm

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funkteer said:

Sinead was on Oprah sometime in the last two years and she admitted that she suffers from bi-polar disorder. Maybe she wasn't on her meds when she told the story. Maybe Prince reacted to her freaking out. They tend to be paranoid and very dramatic when they are off their meds.


WOW! that explains alot. My ex bf was bi-polar and that dude was one scary MF when he was off his meds. There aint no inbetween with that condition. It's either heaven or hell!
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Reply #76 posted 08/12/08 1:38pm

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Sinead O'Connor Rolling Stone article (24th January, 1991)

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© Rolling Stone Magazine / Hot Press



I don't know what to make of this story.I mean,we've all heard stories of Prince mistreating his women and of course,we've all seen "Purple Rain"....but this story sounds really strange hmmm plus,Sinead is a bit on the crazy side.



that's like the third version I've heard from her (in print and on tv). I say bollocks to the whole thing!! I bet she came by his house beggin for a lay, he told her to go away, and she been crazy since that day!
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Reply #77 posted 08/12/08 1:41pm

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SoulAlive said:

simm0061 said:


Sinead said in previous interviews that P didn't like that 1) she did his song without his consent 2) she wasn't lady like 3) she refused to allow the singing of the national anthem at one of her shows.
She apparently told him to go fuck himself and he retorted that he should "kick her ass."

I'm sure he threatened her. I'm sure that he even intentionally tried to scare the hell out of her. But I can't imagine he would be foolish enough to actually get physical. No way dude would ever risk going to jail by doing something like that. Plus didn't Hucky (P's bodyguard) say he was there and that it didn't happen?


Yeah,I think that he probably did threaten her,probably just to scare her.He has a long history of intimidating women and getting into heated arguments with them.Apollonia has said that,when she left the Prince camp in 1985,he got all pissed and yelled at her."He told me that I would never make it without him",she said.


AND SHE NEVER DID!
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Reply #78 posted 08/13/08 9:49am

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Thinking back I wonder if the lines in Days Of Wild were about this. "A woman everyday should be thanked, not disrespected, raped or spanked, and if a woman ever says I did, she's an MF liar....."
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Reply #79 posted 08/13/08 12:27pm

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Baylana said:

Thinking back I wonder if the lines in Days Of Wild were about this. "A woman everyday should be thanked, not disrespected, raped or spanked, and if a woman ever says I did, she's an MF liar....."


hmmm food 4 thought
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #80 posted 08/13/08 12:42pm

eireboy34

They're both a bit mad! Leave them to it and let's just listen to the music.

Used to know someone who went out with her brother.
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Reply #81 posted 08/13/08 2:34pm

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I didnt like her all that well.
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
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Reply #82 posted 08/13/08 2:43pm

SoulAlive

Interestingly,Prince thanks Sinead in the credits of the Diamonds and Pearls CD lol
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Reply #83 posted 08/13/08 2:46pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

SoulAlive said:



Yeah,I think that he probably did threaten her,probably just to scare her.He has a long history of intimidating women and getting into heated arguments with them.Apollonia has said that,when she left the Prince camp in 1985,he got all pissed and yelled at her."He told me that I would never make it without him",she said.



AND SHE NEVER DID!


true lol
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Reply #84 posted 08/13/08 2:59pm

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Erika2k8 said:

After hearing the original she really did kinda ruin the emotion of the song THIS IS JUST MY OPINION
and ask for what she said about Prince i do not believe it at all shes a bit of a nut job in my opinion.


lol In Other Words Wat My Friend E. Here Is Tryin 2 Say Is....F^*k That BaldHeaded B!tch Hahahaha lol
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Reply #85 posted 08/13/08 4:22pm

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cool I remember reading this in that rag The Enquier. I do think her version of that song was good. Sinead can sing despite her wackiness behaivor. The story too me was just a joke. If it actually happened who knows? No one believes her any way. I would not be surprised if it did though. I do not think she was looking for publicity. The song was already a huge hit for her. cool
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Reply #86 posted 08/13/08 6:15pm

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"It's hard 4 me 2 say what's right when all I want to do is wrong..."
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Reply #87 posted 08/15/08 4:28am

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Baylana said:

Thinking back I wonder if the lines in Days Of Wild were about this. "A woman everyday should be thanked, not disrespected, raped or spanked, and if a woman ever says I did, she's an MF liar....."


hmmm I wonder if he's referring to the Sinead incident?
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Reply #88 posted 08/15/08 4:53am

SoulAlive

Back in the early 90s,Sinead was a lightning rod for controversy.Prince wasn't the only one who was pissed/offended by her bold actions.Frank Sinatra famously said that she "deserves a good kick in the ass" for tearing up that picture of the Pope during a performance.Just saying...
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Reply #89 posted 08/15/08 7:11am

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JudasLChrist said:

I lived in MPLS at the time and I remember John Bream or someone writing about this incident when it happened. There is no reason not to believe her. Prince has an ego the size of Antartica, and Sinead is a shit-kicking, lippy woman who would probably never be docile enough to wear make-up and lingerie in a Prince group.

Anyway, I can't believe you people. Sinead has an incredibly beautiful voice. She's a great artist. Her version of Nothing Compares 2 U kicks ass all over Prince's version. Good for her for standing up to him!



i also like her version and she does have a beautiful voice being the open minded person that i am, i like all of the versions of the song and everyone i know that has heard it thinks the same
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