FunkyBrotha said:

working with ur siblings doesn't count and the majority of the pedophile's career has been singing songs that OTHER people wrote so please take ur idol worship over 2 his site please

working with ur siblings doesn't count and the majority of the pedophile's career has been singing songs that OTHER people wrote so please take ur idol worship over 2 his site please

L4OATheOriginal said:

That was pretty rude. Some of ya'll think is better than everyone else because Prince writes 98% material. Alot of great artists had songwriters and producers. It's not always about doing all yourself, it's about how good the music is

bboy87 said:

here's a question and this should set the record straight once and 4 all:

of Michael , madonna and prince: please tell me who can do a 2 hour soundcheck, 2 hour concert, then go 2 a club afterwards and jam again 4 over a hour and some change, and have other famous musicians and singers come join them on stage?

record sales r one thing but at the end of the day, it's about who can still wreck a stage with their music instead of wrecking havoc on tabloids?

It depends on how you look at it.

MJ, Madonna, artists and preformers, Prince, all the above but hes a musician too.

Michael is an icon and has released some incredible music, but he was too bizarre for anyone to take him as anything but a strange eccentric person at best and a manipulative child rapist at worst. The longer he stalls in bringing out the comeback record, the more his career sinks into oblivion.

Madonna, ok shes a commercial force and viewed kinder by the press, but as many others have siad none of her releases since Ray of Light have been very relevant, they all chase trends rather than set them. She has to get over the guest rapper/ sample beat, Timbaland style garbage inundatingthe market now. She in a sense a commercial whore.

Prince, a true musician who releases skilfully crafted albums often (maybe too often), generally avoids the media comment and cares little about how others perceive him. Totally into his music and himself and knows how to rock a stage, easily the most reassured and stable of them all. Totally sane, in control and funky.

Is 50 the new 30?
It may be hard to fathom, but this summer three of America's greatest pop icons - Madonna, Prince and Michael Jackson - are all reaching a major milestone, they are all turning 50. Even at a half century old, the three have proven that they can still turn up the heat. Early Show national correspondent Tracy Smith took a closer look at what these three famous - and infamous - music icons have been up to recently.

They epitomized the '80s when they stormed the stage with their ground-breaking, hit songs - Madonna's "Like A Virgin," Prince's "Purple Rain" and Jackson's "Thriller." They also brought their edgy fashion statements to the stage, which was mimicked by millions of followers. With hefty monikers such as "The Queen of Pop" Madonna, "The Artist Formerly Known As Prince" and "The King of Pop" Michael Jackson, the three have become legends not only in American pop culture, but around the world.

"Madonna always reinvents herself, so every new album, every new tour, she has a new look," said Rolling Stone's Michael Endelman. In the true spirit of her hit song "Borderline," Madonna has always been one to shock with her "borderline" behavior. The perfect example was her racy kiss with Britney Spears in 2002, proving that the "Material Girl" was capable of just about anything. Although many didn't expect her to ever settle down, the chameleon revealed another shade of herself - when she became a mother. But even motherhood couldn't keep Madonna too far from being dragged into a scandal. Thrust into the spotlight again, it was rumored that Madonna and her husband Guy Ritchie were splitting up along with accusations that Madonna was having a love affair with the New York Yankee' Alex Rodriguez - both of which she denies.

"The Queen of Pop," who plans to go on a world tour in September, will continue to reign at any age it seems.

Regardless if Prince's "Purple Rain" was released two decades ago, he has remained current with his performance at the Super Bowl in 2007, proving that at his age he can still wow a crowd. Prince is scheduled to release a new album and embark on a European tour in the fall.

Michael Jackson on the other hand is somewhat of a different success story. He indeed thrilled audiences for decades, but his strange behavior has earned him an unflattering nickname, "Wacko Jacko." "Michael has become more of a tabloid story than a musician," Endelman said. "He doesn't record much new music and that's where the problem lies. People who keep doing what they're doing and keep singing, keep performing and keep writing manage to grow old gracefully."

The Rolling Stones have nonchalantly surpassed their 50's and are rockin' out like they always have - proving that their music can transcend generations. These may be tough acts to follow, but they have opened the door for other artists who may be rockin' in their footsteps. "I think if you're a younger act - if you're Christina Aguilera, this is great news for you that you can actually be a successful pop singer sort of well past your 20 somethings," Endelman said.

Considering the staying power of Madonna and Prince, young pop stars today may be in for some tough competition when they reach 50 if these die-hards are still plugging away in the music business.

Will 80 then be the new 50?

Source: CBS News
Thanks to our contributor and community member Baby George

L4OATheOriginal said:

also the original poster mentioned prince's work PLUS his side projects, so the fact that a bulk of Jackson's work from his 41 years in the record industry was with The Jackson 5 and Jacksons, that DOES count. I understand we all love Prince, but if you're gonna shit on another artist because they don't live up to your idol's standards, even though they themselves HELPED that said idol break barriers, why bother?

L4OATheOriginal said:

MJ is no pedo,to call him one is insulting and inaccurate.

Also this particular thread is about these 3 artists compared, not just P, so we are allowed to comment and say what we like about the other artists.

L4OATheOriginal said:

I didn't even mention record sales, I was simply saying that just because Michael doesn't produce, arrange, and write every song doesn't mean he's not good.

You can't compare every artist with Prince because he's a "musician's musician" whereas Michael is in the same vein as performers like James Brown and Sammy Davis.

2 hour soundcheck, 2 hour concert, then go 2 a club afterwards and jam again 4 over a hour and some change, and have other famous musicians and singers come join them on stage? That's Prince and only Prince can do that, so no need to compare

And I'll set the record straight is, it simply comes down to how good the music is
[Edited 8/4/08 0:29am]

Baylana said:

if u have kids or not, would u trust ur kids 2 b around him 4 a sleep over? tell the truth

L4OATheOriginal said:

Tell me something, if your kid told you someone had abused them, would the first call you made be to a lawyer to find out how much you could sue the person for? Or would you call the Police and have them put behind bars?

If I had kids I would worry about everyone around them full stop, that's just who I am.

Baylana said:

neither, i would b calling other members of my family 2 do a serious ass whooping from a trunk, then calling the police 4 the person i'm about 2 whoop their ass 2 warn them that there is gonna b SOME FURNITURE MOVING AROUND HERE!!

but it's hard 2 do all that when u got bodyguards up the wazoo protecting the perp

bboy87 said:

oh u can't even compare michael 2 james because james is the INNOVATOR and a band leader/musician as well as one of the baddest showman in the history of the business..without james there would b no prince, no bootsy collins, no parlimanet funkadelic, no chilli peppers and so on and so on

Baylana said:

neither, i would b calling other members of my family 2 do a serious ass whooping from a trunk, then calling the police 4 the person i'm about 2 whoop their ass 2 warn them that there is gonna b SOME FURNITURE MOVING AROUND HERE!!

but it's hard 2 do all that when u got bodyguards up the wazoo protecting the perp

L4OATheOriginal said:

whatever you say, buddy I put Michael with James, Sammy, and Jackie Wilson and I put Prince with Sly, Jimi, and Little Richard

Here's the thing: I'd rather have these 3 50 years olds instead of these 20 somethings who ain't shit as performers

And for somebody who doesn't care about Michael, you're definitely going out of your way to talk shit about him

L4OATheOriginal said:

well u just as stupid as they were because aint no way in the world I wouldn't use the fact that my child is in that house as an advantage to walk in and whoop his head if I thought anything was going on. we'd be coming over as usual- only this time he'd be pickin his teeth up off the floor. it would happen so fast, security wouldn't have a chance to respond.
those people were full of shit and so are u.
[Edited 8/4/08 11:57am]

bboy87 said:

i would take the stones, zepplin, the chilli peppers, p funk, gladys knight and etc over these no talents like beyonce, rhianna, usher etc

how could i not know things about him since u everywhere u turn around here, someone is always mentioning wacko?

L4OATheOriginal said:

that ain't my fault I'm a fan of Michael and it even annoys me when there's a flood of threads about him

That's why I try to balance things out with George Michael threads

4 Prince

Baylana said:

if u have kids or not, would u trust ur kids 2 b around him 4 a sleep over? tell the truth

L4OATheOriginal said:

Don't turn this shit into a pedeophile thread. That's done, that's old, that's tired, and that's not what this thread is about. Whatever your issues are that are causing you to re-direct a discussion completely off topic over something that the judicial system did find false, please leave them at the door.

You want to talk about the pedophilia issue? Go right ahead and start up another boring ass thread about it. It's not like that shit isn't hashed and re-hashed to death already. This one's for talk of the music and careers of all three artists, and nothing else.

meow85 said:

so calling him wacko jacko mr showup2courtwithpj's is alright with u then?

geez don't call madonna madge then aight?

and b sure 2 jump on those that say that prince has a vagina etc etc ..but u want 2 get on me 4 chopping down ur "hero" by saying he's a pedophile ..bravo!!

meow85 said:

so calling him wacko jacko mr showup2courtwithpj's is alright with u then?

geez don't call madonna madge then aight?

and b sure 2 jump on those that say that prince has a vagina etc etc ..but u want 2 get on me 4 chopping down ur "hero" by saying he's a pedophile ..bravo!!

L4OATheOriginal said:

Michael's not my hero. Calling Madonna Madge isn't off topic, it's a nickname. Prince has a vagina? That's a thing called a joke. Read up on them. Some find them funny. Ranting and raving about alledged pedophilia in a thread about a person's career? Off topic and inapprropriate.

Madonna - from a commercial standpoint and with respect to media attention, surely still a top player. But she pays a price for it: she always has to go with the latest trends (which is why she's releasing stupid weak-ass pseudo-hip-hop influenced rubbish these days), apart from the persona she created, she's made some nice pop songs, but is musically irrelevant imo

Madonna, ok shes a commercial force and viewed kinder by the press, but as many others have siad none of her releases since Ray of Light have been very relevant, they all chase trends rather than set them. She has to get over the guest rapper/ sample beat, Timbaland style garbage inundatingthe market now. She in a sense a commercial whore.