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Printablerusty1 said: NOT EVERYTHING prince does musically is great. prince has be an inconsistant musician since 1989. prince has had a good song or album here and there but its less frequent these days. i'm a fan for 25years and i know classic prince 2 cringing prince music.
Agreed 100%. People act like everything he does is golden, when it is spotty, at best. Great thread  | |
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Anxiety said: ButterscotchPimp said: 
Um, hello? I didn't even bother to read the other responses on this thread. Welcome to the Org! Making statements like the one you just made will get you insulted, laughed at and probably ostricized. There are many factions here on the Org, but for the most part it shakes out into THREE. The "old-heads" who long for the early glory days and think that pretty much anything P did after say Lovesexy or so is crap. The "youngins" who think that Prince is doing his best material right now and think that the older material is over-rated. And the ever-popular "kool-aid kids" who also refer to themselves as "fams". They think that everything Prince ever did is genius. Every album is a masterpiece, every movie should have received Oscars. They will react with great vengeance and furious anger (i know) upon the mere mention that something P did wasn't "great". They also look down their noses at any musician that is remotely compared to Prince or that doesn't play at least 4 instruments. They also tend to type in Prince-speak. (u know.) Good luck. Tread carefully. I must be a Jan-Brady-Kid...I'm not a huge fan of the super early stuff or the super late stuff. I like the stuff in the middle best.  I think there is a 4th faction. Those of us who think that after Lovesexy was just fine and know he has produced some ofhis exciting material after 89, yet don't think every thing he does is gold. We will buy and check out the new albums, but seeing as P has been doing this for years, our expecttaions are not that high. He comes out with an album. Promotes it or not. There will be some good songs and some crappy ones. Not Kool-aid drinkers but not Old-heads either. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: Anxiety said: I must be a Jan-Brady-Kid...I'm not a huge fan of the super early stuff or the super late stuff. I like the stuff in the middle best. I think there is a 4th faction. Those of us who think that after Lovesexy was just fine and know he has produced some ofhis exciting material after 89, yet don't think every thing he does is gold. We will buy and check out the new albums, but seeing as P has been doing this for years, our expecttaions are not that high. He comes out with an album. Promotes it or not. There will be some good songs and some crappy ones. Not Kool-aid drinkers but not Old-heads either. you might want to shorten the name of your faction a little.  | |
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ToraToraDreams said: CJBabyDaddy said: Who' you callin' a touchy Prince fan?
Answer me, muthafugga!  no no no. it's "MotherfuckER" Must be my San Antonio EastSide accent vs. his Minneapolis Northside accent. | |
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rusty1 said: NOT EVERYTHING prince does musically is great. prince has be an inconsistant musician since 1989. prince has had a good song or album here and there but its less frequent these days. i'm a fan for 25years and i know classic prince 2 cringing prince music.
I feel the same way. A REAL fan accepts the fact that Prince has his bad songs too.....and that's okay. MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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rusty1 said: NOT EVERYTHING prince does musically is great. prince has be an inconsistant musician since 1989. prince has had a good song or album here and there but its less frequent these days. i'm a fan for 25years and i know classic prince 2 cringing prince music.
The absolute worship of any individual is nutty. But seeing that one can go anywhere and a get a list of all of Prince's faults and hear all the nasty crap, it's nice to have a place that accentuates and focuses on the positives. At least that's how I feel. | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: rusty1 said: NOT EVERYTHING prince does musically is great. prince has be an inconsistant musician since 1989. prince has had a good song or album here and there but its less frequent these days. i'm a fan for 25years and i know classic prince 2 cringing prince music.
I feel the same way. A REAL fan accepts the fact that Prince has his bad songs too.....and that's okay. i can tell you work i don't like by every one of my favorite artists, and i can tell you things i like that most other fans don't like. it's all completely subjective, and i agree - it's just a well-balanced attitude to allow for some work that you'll like better than other stuff from your favorites. | |
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Prince's best material was 80-87. No question about it. Lovesexy was a noticeable drop off in quality (though "Anna Stesia" is up there with the 80-87 material). Even the best track on Graffiti Bridge, "Joy In Repetition", was written during his golden period. the music knows what your motives are when you are making it
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Anxiety said: superspaceboy said: I think there is a 4th faction. Those of us who think that after Lovesexy was just fine and know he has produced some ofhis exciting material after 89, yet don't think every thing he does is gold. We will buy and check out the new albums, but seeing as P has been doing this for years, our expecttaions are not that high. He comes out with an album. Promotes it or not. There will be some good songs and some crappy ones. Not Kool-aid drinkers but not Old-heads either. you might want to shorten the name of your faction a little. How's "Purple Party Station Wagon Fans Who like to TOUCH IIIIT!!!!"?  [Edited 7/2/08 13:45pm] Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: Anxiety said: you might want to shorten the name of your faction a little. How's "Purple Party Station Wagon Fans Who like to TOUCH IIIIT!!!!"?
[Edited 7/2/08 13:45pm] ANND EXPLOOOODE!!!! | |
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BLACK QUITARIST Z u aren't a real true prince fan if u think signo'the times wasn't a classic album. when my brother and i first heard sign we had huge smiles on our faces. it blows away anything that he would ever try 2 do again. when i'm at a prince concert give me is classic solid era. i wouldn't want 2 hear anything from his last 3 albums live at all. prince's music doesnt have that connection that it did back in hid glory years. why can't anyone be reasonable and say hey he'll never have that muse ever again. BOB4theFUNK | |
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rusty1 said: why can't anyone be reasonable and say hey he'll never have that muse ever again.
Because that would be an unreasonable thing to say. He's always had the same muse.  ~Under lock and key* | |
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all of the fans who even try 2 compare the 90's stuff to his 80's material can't br done. there will be fans who will try 2 downplay his 80's works. they'll say i didn't dig sign of the times or parade which is ridiculious. THERE ARE NO 90's SONGS THAT WOULD MAKE MY TOP 50 PRINCE SONGS OF ALL TIME. all of those tracks come from his 79 to 88 collection. 17 days vs. NOW!, the beautiful ones vs. the morning papers, and so on. PRINCE's 80s material is timless and we'll last 4ever. i wouldn't tell a new prince fan 2 purchase any of his last 3 albums. i would tell him the gold experience, D&P, emancipation and TRC. the horrible albums: chaos and disorder, come, the vault,,,,, ANY PRINCE FAN WHO PUTS THOSE ALBUMS AS HIS BEST ARE ONLY KIDDING THEMSELVES!! BOB4theFUNK | |
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IF U DON'T THINK SIGN O' THE TIMES IS A CLASSIC ALBUM THEN U AREN'T A PRINCE FAN. THAT ALBUM IS PRINCE BEING PRINCE>. it covered so many different stles and genres. i'll be hip and say sign wasn't a classic is what the stubborn prince fan would say. BOB4theFUNK | |
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rusty1 said: IF U DON'T THINK SIGN O' THE TIMES IS A CLASSIC ALBUM THEN U AREN'T A PRINCE FAN. THAT ALBUM IS PRINCE BEING PRINCE>. it covered so many different stles and genres. i'll be hip and say sign wasn't a classic is what the stubborn prince fan would say.
now i want to dislike that album just so i can send you through the roof. | |
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clean ur ears out !!.....LOVE 4 ONE ANOTHER.....
prince's worst albums of all time 1)chaos &disorder 2)come 3)the vault 4)NPS 5)planet earth 6)3121 7)musicology 8)rave OH! wouldn't u now it they all come fromhis 90s period...hmm. isn't that surprising.  BOB4theFUNK | |
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rusty1 said: BLACK QUITARIST Z u aren't a real true prince fan if u think signo'the times wasn't a classic album. when my brother and i first heard sign we had huge smiles on our faces. it blows away anything that he would ever try 2 do again. when i'm at a prince concert give me is classic solid era. i wouldn't want 2 hear anything from his last 3 albums live at all. prince's music doesnt have that connection that it did back in hid glory years. why can't anyone be reasonable and say hey he'll never have that muse ever again.
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rusty1 said: clean ur ears out !!.....LOVE 4 ONE ANOTHER.....
prince's worst albums of all time 1)chaos &disorder 2)come 3)the vault 4)NPS 5)planet earth 6)3121 7)musicology 8)rave OH! wouldn't u now it they all come fromhis 90s period...hmm. isn't that surprising. 1. love it 2. one of my favorites 3. if you judge it by the songs rather than as a whole, there is some good material. as a whole project, it was obviously slapped together. 4. over-criticized. "come on", "the one", "wasted kisses" and "mad sex" are fine songs. 5. ok, i'm with ya there.
6. i'm with ya there (though probably not as adamantly, cuz at least i'll listen to it now and again) 7. not quite with ya there, but it's not so great that i'm gonna argue with you about it 8. i agree wholeheartedly | |
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Good1 said: rusty1 said: why can't anyone be reasonable and say hey he'll never have that muse ever again.
Because that would be an unreasonable thing to say. Exactly  And with that question, why must we conform to that way of thinking? Why is that "reasonable"? We can make up our own minds with this, and NO I'm not being touchy on this subject but I'll be damned if I let somebody come up on this board and tell me what to think and how to be "reasonable". That's unacceptable.I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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all of his weaker works come from 1989 to the present. it's just the reality of it all. there are fans who feel prince can't do anything wrong. prince has maybe had 5 good albums since 1989. while he was very consistent pre 1989. prince is a legend because of his hall of fame 1980 to 87 period. linnm1 is very objective and knows where i'm coming from BOB4theFUNK | |
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rusty1 said: BLACK QUITARIST Z u aren't a real true prince fan if u think signo'the times wasn't a classic album. when my brother and i first heard sign we had huge smiles on our faces. it blows away anything that he would ever try 2 do again. when i'm at a prince concert give me is classic solid era. i wouldn't want 2 hear anything from his last 3 albums live at all. prince's music doesnt have that connection that it did back in hid glory years. why can't anyone be reasonable and say hey he'll never have that muse ever again.
I am laughing my proverbial ass off right now...  [Edited 7/2/08 19:42pm] | |
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rusty1 said: BLACK QUITARIST Z u aren't a real true prince fan if u think signo'the times wasn't a classic album. when my brother and i first heard sign we had huge smiles on our faces. it blows away anything that he would ever try 2 do again. when i'm at a prince concert give me is classic solid era. i wouldn't want 2 hear anything from his last 3 albums live at all. prince's music doesnt have that connection that it did back in hid glory years. why can't anyone be reasonable and say hey he'll never have that muse ever again.
What a mess, I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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where does prince's filler come from?.....the 90s. where does his weaker albums come from? the 90s BOB4theFUNK | |
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rusty1 said: where does prince's filler come from?.....the 90s. where does his weaker albums come from? the 90s
actually, i'd say his weakest material comes from the '00s, but i'm only speaking for myself and not on any crusade to sway the masses. | |
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purplecam said: rusty1 said: BLACK QUITARIST Z u aren't a real true prince fan if u think signo'the times wasn't a classic album. when my brother and i first heard sign we had huge smiles on our faces. it blows away anything that he would ever try 2 do again. when i'm at a prince concert give me is classic solid era. i wouldn't want 2 hear anything from his last 3 albums live at all. prince's music doesnt have that connection that it did back in hid glory years. why can't anyone be reasonable and say hey he'll never have that muse ever again.
What a mess, .. and the thing about it is.. no matter how many times you tell people.. it is all 'opinion' .. somebody is STILL gonna come along and say their word is fact... | |
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This has become a battle of opinion...and unless we have some kind of weaponry and agree to meet at a central point to do battle to the death, with the winner's opinion being declared law of the land...its pointless. | |
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ToraToraDreams said: This has become a battle of opinion...and unless we have some kind of weaponry and agree to meet at a central point to do battle to the death, with the winner's opinion being declared law of the land...its pointless.
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ToraToraDreams said: This has become a battle of opinion...and unless we have some kind of weaponry and agree to meet at a central point to do battle to the death, with the winner's opinion being declared law of the land...its pointless.
so you're basically saying SOTT sucks.  | |
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Flowerz said: purplecam said: What a mess, .. and the thing about it is.. no matter how many times you tell people.. it is all 'opinion' .. somebody is STILL gonna come along and say their word is fact... Ain't that the damn truth?! It's pathetic how many hard headed people are on here who will still lie and call their opinions "facts". It's a shame.  I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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It's so funny how some of you continue to be so confused about posts here.
EVERYTHING we all post is an opinion, there is no right or wrong in art. Nobody is posting mathematical equations here. The consensus, by the general public, professional people who review music for a living, his own contemporaries, and me as well is,..... whether you like it or not that his 80's work is his pinnacle. Don’t feel upset by that, it’s not a fact, just a general consensus nothing more. Having said that, I love “Hudson Hawk” & “Showgirls” two of the supposed worst movies of all time, I don’t get upset when people say they’re bad, ..I get it. So there I said it, Prince's 90’s work = “Showgirls”  [Edited 7/2/08 22:19pm] | |
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