rusty1 said:

And u KNOW this HOW rusty? Did P tell u the state of his skull was on and cracking between 79-88? Dig, I've stated on here for years that I feel P was in an incredible zone between 81-early 84. I say that because of the tracks that were cut during that period. Was that P's best period? I can't say that. Is that MY favorite period? Yes.U hang on to P's output longer that I do. I started to lose interest in P's music as early as 85 when he released ATWIAD. As an album, I never dug it. And was disappointed as a motherfucker that he released THAT after Purple Rain. That's just me. When he released Parade, I wasn't jumping through hoops over that album either. Keep in mind, I was still a kid when this was on and cracking. I was digging Mazarati waaaay more at that point than I was digging Prince's own material. But see, I had been into Prince from the get go so I wasn't throwing in the towell. I just wasn't digging where he was at then. When Signs hit, same thing. I was VERY lukewarm over that album. Lovesexy was an album I dug the most since Purple Rain and I wasn't running in the street over that one either. It was when I got a hold of The Black Album that I freaked. That's when I KNEW Prince was the Prince that I knew. The rough ass street brutha who might could kick your ass in a fight despite his height. The cat that was crazy and was at peace with being crazy. Point being, just because u might not value P's output in the 90's doesn't mean that it wasn't valid. "Gett OFF" to me, is one of the hardest thangs Prince has ever officially released.

rusty1 said:

.. No, you are only speaking 'your opinion' of how you feel.... cause just like Purplecam said.. music hits people differently ... now a song you may not like is probably what turned someone else into a Prince fan.... it's all opinion and to each his own ...

CJBabyDaddy said:

no no no. it's "MotherfuckER"

ToraToraDreams said:

No according to Prince it's "motherfuckerrrrr."

blackguitaristz said:

:imagines P...IN WEST SIDE STORY:

Actually, he is rough. He kicked a lot of ass in The Warriors. What was his street name again...oh right REMBRANDT

And he also beat the mess out of Apples and she's like twice his size.

I think that being interested in Prince's way of expressing his heart...Is just as nice of a quality to be listening to...rather than expecting that every song be a musical masterpiece. I like some songs, or collections of songs better than other's...and at the same time, I like all of Prince's work.

I believe that those of us that get touchy, are people that don't want to see Prince's character attacked, because we love him...I don't desire to be defensive, if someone doesn't like something about the music...

rusty1 said:

Um, hello?
I didn't even bother to read the other responses on this thread.

Welcome to the Org!
Making statements like the one you just made will get you insulted, laughed at and probably ostricized.

There are many factions here on the Org, but for the most part it shakes out into THREE.

The "old-heads" who long for the early glory days and think that pretty much anything P did after say Lovesexy or so is crap.

The "youngins" who think that Prince is doing his best material right now and think that the older material is over-rated.

And the ever-popular "kool-aid kids" who also refer to themselves as "fams". They think that everything Prince ever did is genius. Every album is a masterpiece, every movie should have received Oscars. They will react with great vengeance and furious anger (i know) upon the mere mention that something P did wasn't "great". They also look down their noses at any musician that is remotely compared to Prince or that doesn't play at least 4 instruments. They also tend to type in Prince-speak. (u know.)


Good luck. Tread carefully.

ButterscotchPimp said:

I must be a Jan-Brady-Kid...I'm not a huge fan of the super early stuff or the super late stuff. I like the stuff in the middle best.

Dayclear said:

That's terrible!!!! I agree that Prince does some things that are questionable, but I would NEVER wish for him to die.

Dance said:

Anxiety said:

MARSHA, MARSHA, MARSHA!!!

i just said i hope he would get the sniffles

Anxiety said:

I rode the bandwagon hard from the beginning all the way up to Emancipation. After that it's been pretty much a yawn fest for me excluding TRC.

So i guess i get my own faction too.

ButterscotchPimp said:

Why should people be put in categories as fans? You like what you like, I like what I like. No one should be attacked for being a "kool-aid" fan anymore than someone who only likes Prince for only a certain amount of years should be. It's all about respect and that's something that's lacking in this particular forum.
[Edited 7/2/08 7:18am]

purplecam said:

I rest my case.

Anxiety said:

purplecam said:

exactly my point..there r some would u belive it or not that hate sign o the times but some would rather hear songs from his 90's rather than the 80's. does this mean that they r any less a fan because of it? NO! it's the opinion and it's their taste not factual and certainly not the end and b all of all his creative output.

rusty1 said:

u say it right here in ur post that "i like ..." again ur entitled 2 ur opinion where as some of the albums u mentioned imo r great.

4 instance: come -brilliant album only thing is solo doesn't do anything 4 me
the vault- when the lights go down is brilliant, sarah is funny and she spoke 2 me is dazzling

rave - hot wit u, the sun the moon and stars, tangerine, prettyman r xcellent cuts


nps- not a prince album so it doesn't count in my book

3121- everything with the xception of satisfied and the dance are great

musicology- title track, illusion, cinnamon girl, reflection and the back 2 back cuts of if i was, and the marrying kind

pe - only shoe and guitar float my boat.

what i'm trying 2 say is that even the songs i mentioned above, some like as well and some others don't. so what i prefer doesn't make it fact, it's just my opinion just as u have stated about what u like

so 2 answer ur topic thread, i think and i may b wrong here, is that it's NOT prince fans that get so touchy, it could b u cause not everyone is siding along with ur view of prince's music

ButterscotchPimp said:

rest your case about what?
[Edited 7/2/08 8:02am]

ButterscotchPimp said:

so what u trying 2 say? but u hit the head on the nail xactly about every facet of fan on prince org and dare i say it, other fan sites as well

Anxiety said:

MARCIA MARCIA MARCIA!!!! OUCH MY NOSE!!!

L4OATheOriginal said:

It only dawned on me lately that by sticking with the old stuff and not embracing the newer stuff (after 1989) I had been furiously left behind.

This became apparent at the After Show parties at the Indigo Lounge.

Here I managed to get a spot right at the front but was unable to sing along with half of the tunes as I didn't know them, AND had passed them off as not very good.

After my fourth or so aftershow I realised what a mistake I had made. I was loving EVERYTHING I was hearing and only wishing I knew it better to gain full appreciation of the experience.

After this experience I have revisited EVERYTHING after Lovesexy, which I had previously been very sniffy about. I realise now how wrong I was and that there are some truly amazing songs on each and everyone one of his albums.

Infact now I am a fully fledged convert to the newer stuff and love it more than I ever thought I would. In short I guess 'I get it!'

Seeing him live definately turned it around for me.

I have NOT stopped listening to '3121'..the first aftershow at the Indigo lounge he played this. Also 'I Like It There'... I thought this was an amazing song when I heard it live. I couldn't believe it was Prince and that it had been lying there on Chaos and Disorder for all those years without me listening to it. Let alone the song 'Chaos and Disorder' which is abslutely amazing and 'I Rock Therefore I Am'

jstar69 said:

blackguitaristz said:

Do you have The Hits and The B-Sides? I think some of Princes B-Sides are his best pieces of music. They really have a rough edge to them like the Black Album.

Especially Shockadelica, Erotic City, Horny Toad, Feel U Up and Irrestible Bitch

pepper7 said:

I have all of the original 45 singles. Yeah, I agree that Prince's b-sides were some of his best material. I always felt that Prince puposely put his most killin' shit on his b-sides.

pepper7 said:

welcome 2 the dawning of a new spiritual revolution

rusty1 said:

I think it's statements like yours that get people riled. I believe it's when people state their opinions as FACT is when issues arise. Many feel that he has had many good songs and good albums since the 80's so there is that argument. Many feel he is still on top of his game and cranking out classics like he used to so there's that argument.

I like to be somewhere in the middle...His older output is just as ecclectic as the newer stuff and even the older music still had it's clunkers. I find his current output as good if not better than what's out there already and like all his albums there are still gems to be found. Though I feel he isn't taking as many misks musically as he did and I find the lyrical content...lacking I still find the music enjoyable and sometimes thrilling.

ToraToraDreams said:

You must not watch LOST then talk about crazy wakadoos on those forums

Honestly I think the negativity balances out the positivity for P music. I also think that Price does some negative things to his band, fans and promotion...many times he can be a Prick. I think a lot of negativity spewed by the fans comes from the way he treats us. It shouldn't but it does.

Not to compare him to her again....Madonna may be a beeotch, but she loves her fans and it shows...she is very generous with them. You know like has a website and has a vehicle of communication between her music and her fans. Price fans hear what he's up to via news articles and is never upfront about what to expect on any front.

jstar69 said:

And how long have you been here? Prince is not god around here.

rusty1 said:

And that is your opinion. Nothing is obvious.