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Reply #150 posted 05/29/08 5:40pm

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Could Jimi do "Housequake?" Prince probably wouldn't find it a stretch, since he stole Jimi's "Little Miss Lover" beat for "Tick, Tick Bang..."

And, "LML" was funnnnnky... disbelief


I was just about to reference Prince's "Witness" as a big ol' tribute to Jimi.
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Reply #151 posted 05/29/08 6:55pm

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lol
Jimi pic is from magesy.com.
[Edited 5/29/08 20:34pm]
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Reply #152 posted 05/29/08 6:56pm

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ThreadBare said:

Could Jimi do "Housequake?" Prince probably wouldn't find it a stretch, since he stole Jimi's "Little Miss Lover" beat for "Tick, Tick Bang..."

And, "LML" was funnnnnky... disbelief


I was just about to reference Prince's "Witness" as a big ol' tribute to Jimi.


I once saw Prince dance across the stage, slide into the chair of his piano, play a minute of brilliant jazz chords, jump on top and catch his guitar where he played an orgasmic solo that was finished by him jumping off the piano and landing on the stage with four inch heels where he proceeded to do the splits, dangle the mic stand and sing some amazing falsetto runs. He played a three hour concert with encores and later showed up at a niteclub where he played multiple instruments, rare compositions and reworked classics.

Could Jimi top that!?
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Reply #153 posted 05/29/08 7:39pm

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jdcxc said:

ThreadBare said:

Could Jimi do "Housequake?" Prince probably wouldn't find it a stretch, since he stole Jimi's "Little Miss Lover" beat for "Tick, Tick Bang..."

And, "LML" was funnnnnky... disbelief


I was just about to reference Prince's "Witness" as a big ol' tribute to Jimi.


I once saw Prince dance across the stage, slide into the chair of his piano, play a minute of brilliant jazz chords, jump on top and catch his guitar where he played an orgasmic solo that was finished by him jumping off the piano and landing on the stage with four inch heels where he proceeded to do the splits, dangle the mic stand and sing some amazing falsetto runs. He played a three hour concert with encores and later showed up at a niteclub where he played multiple instruments, rare compositions and reworked classics.

Could Jimi top that!?


Never saw Jimi do the splits. And, no one is taking anything away from Prince by saying he's less than an innovator than Hendrix.

Can't they both be great? Time played a major role in who influenced whom. How about that?
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Reply #154 posted 05/29/08 8:45pm

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SynthiaRose said:

I'm in love with blackguitaritz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix.

I love u too, baby...
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Reply #155 posted 05/29/08 9:22pm

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prince has more songs and more styles than jimi ever would

plus he strayed away from drugs unlike jimmy

so i have to go with prince
You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam!
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Reply #156 posted 05/29/08 9:31pm

Graycap23

Prince innovated being the worlds biggest Rock star WITHOUT being addicted 2 drugs and alcohol. That is TOPS in my book all day long.

Never in trouble with the law either.....
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Reply #157 posted 05/29/08 9:39pm

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jdcxc said:

hollywooddove said:


amen.... I think Prince likes to be compared to Jimi, who the hell wouldn't. Jimi's music came from.... good lord, there is no telling where his music came from. No one could compose like he could, no one to this day has been as original and still be good at it.

Remember... Prince imitates Jimi, Jimi never would have to imitate Prince.


Jimi couldn't imitate Prince. This thread has drawn P comparisons to JB, Little Richard, Jimi and you can throw in Sly and Carlos while still missing the mark. His influences are also Joni, some Beatles, 70's rock, 80's New Wave, Miles, Weather Report and many more. But you add all this up and you still have a complex and brilliant musician who has created his own sound that has transformed modern music. Can you imagine contemporary music without Prince's musical mannerisms (keyboard horns, staccato guitar,etc.), overtly sexual themes and iconography. And we haven't even begun to talk about his work outside of his own catalog (Time, Sheila, Sinead, Bangles, etc.) and his deep well of brilliant music that has not even been officially released.

Try comparing Jimi to P as a songwriter, composer, producer. Compare Jimi to P after removing the guitar. P is colorful on the keyboards and truly original behind the drumkit.

Prince could cover any Jimi song but could you see him do Housequake?


PREACH ...imagine Jimi doing "if i was your girlfrieand" ,"Adore","Batdance""cream"....yet Prince can do any of his shit.
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Reply #158 posted 05/29/08 10:16pm

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3232 said:

jdcxc said:



Jimi couldn't imitate Prince. This thread has drawn P comparisons to JB, Little Richard, Jimi and you can throw in Sly and Carlos while still missing the mark. His influences are also Joni, some Beatles, 70's rock, 80's New Wave, Miles, Weather Report and many more. But you add all this up and you still have a complex and brilliant musician who has created his own sound that has transformed modern music. Can you imagine contemporary music without Prince's musical mannerisms (keyboard horns, staccato guitar,etc.), overtly sexual themes and iconography. And we haven't even begun to talk about his work outside of his own catalog (Time, Sheila, Sinead, Bangles, etc.) and his deep well of brilliant music that has not even been officially released.

Try comparing Jimi to P as a songwriter, composer, producer. Compare Jimi to P after removing the guitar. P is colorful on the keyboards and truly original behind the drumkit.

Prince could cover any Jimi song but could you see him do Housequake?


PREACH ...imagine Jimi doing "if i was your girlfrieand" ,"Adore","Batdance""cream"....yet Prince can do any of his shit.

man player...u sure don't sound like u EVER hated Prince. ...Ever.
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Reply #159 posted 05/29/08 10:24pm

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SynthiaRose said:

I'm in love with blackguitaritz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix.

what about me?
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Reply #160 posted 05/30/08 8:45am

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rudeboynpg said:

mayebelle81 said:

i read in an '86 article that Prince said people compare him to Jimi because they are both black. he said he was more influenced by santana. i really don't know because I haven't heard that many jimi songs, but I like them both though.


That was the 1985 Rolling Stone magazine interview where he said that. I believe that was his "F.U." to the critics, like in a 1985 Cream magazine I own, that where labeling him a Jimi Hendrix "impersonator." And while he was also influenced by Carlos Santana's guitar playing, the Jimi Hendrix influence was obvious.










Pics are from timeinc.net, 991.com, bluestormmusic.com, guardian.co.uk and recordmecca.com.
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Even better...

SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Reply #161 posted 05/30/08 9:11am

Orange123

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Who was more of an innovator and why?


Jimi, and also because only the good die young.
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Reply #162 posted 05/30/08 9:26am

SynthiaRose

mirrorbestfriend said:

SynthiaRose said:

I'm in love with blackguitaritz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix.

what about me?


Sorry, he's got the bravado.
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Reply #163 posted 05/30/08 11:28am

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SynthiaRose said:

mirrorbestfriend said:


what about me?


Sorry, he's got the bravado.

but i got 19!
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Reply #164 posted 05/30/08 1:03pm

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ThreadBare said:[quote]Could Jimi do "Housequake?" Prince probably wouldn't find it a stretch, since he stole Jimi's "Little Miss Lover" beat for "Tick, Tick Bang..."

It's funny I've owned "Axis" and "Graffiti Bridge" for YEARS, but I never really started listening to "Axis" until lately.

All of a sudden, I couldn't believe it. There was the exact beat from "Tick Tick Bang" Damn!! Only took me ten or 15 years to catch that. I kept thinking the Jimi song should be mixed into "Tick Tick Bang"
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Reply #165 posted 05/30/08 9:48pm

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sro100 said:[quote]

ThreadBare said:

Could Jimi do "Housequake?" Prince probably wouldn't find it a stretch, since he stole Jimi's "Little Miss Lover" beat for "Tick, Tick Bang..."

It's funny I've owned "Axis" and "Graffiti Bridge" for YEARS, but I never really started listening to "Axis" until lately.

All of a sudden, I couldn't believe it. There was the exact beat from "Tick Tick Bang" Damn!! Only took me ten or 15 years to catch that. I kept thinking the Jimi song should be mixed into "Tick Tick Bang"

Shhhh!!! Don't hurt anybody by bringing that up. I'm pretty sure there are many on here that don't even know Tick Tick Bang was sampled from a Hendrix song. And the ones that did know certainly don't want it brought up on this thread. So,...(whispering) be very quiet.
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Reply #166 posted 05/30/08 10:02pm

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blackguitaristz said:

sro100 said:

ThreadBare said:

Could Jimi do "Housequake?" Prince probably wouldn't find it a stretch, since he stole Jimi's "Little Miss Lover" beat for "Tick, Tick Bang..."



It's funny I've owned "Axis" and "Graffiti Bridge" for YEARS, but I never really started listening to "Axis" until lately.

All of a sudden, I couldn't believe it. There was the exact beat from "Tick Tick Bang" Damn!! Only took me ten or 15 years to catch that. I kept thinking the Jimi song should be mixed into "Tick Tick Bang"

Shhhh!!! Don't hurt anybody by bringing that up. I'm pretty sure there are many on here that don't even know Tick Tick Bang was sampled from a Hendrix song. And the ones that did know certainly don't want it brought up on this thread. So,...(whispering) be very quiet.


And, Tick didn't come anywhere near the funk promised by that beat. It's just wrong to misappropriate a funk hallmark and put a kitschy pastiche of bells and sampled horns and campy vocals atop it. It's just wrong, I tell you. disbelief
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Reply #167 posted 05/30/08 10:05pm

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ThreadBare said:

blackguitaristz said:


Shhhh!!! Don't hurt anybody by bringing that up. I'm pretty sure there are many on here that don't even know Tick Tick Bang was sampled from a Hendrix song. And the ones that did know certainly don't want it brought up on this thread. So,...(whispering) be very quiet.


And, Tick didn't come anywhere near the funk promised by that beat. It's just wrong to misappropriate a funk hallmark and put a kitschy pastiche of bells and sampled horns and campy vocals atop it. It's just wrong, I tell you. disbelief

Shhhhh!!
SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Reply #168 posted 05/30/08 10:07pm

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blackguitaristz said:

ThreadBare said:



And, Tick didn't come anywhere near the funk promised by that beat. It's just wrong to misappropriate a funk hallmark and put a kitschy pastiche of bells and sampled horns and campy vocals atop it. It's just wrong, I tell you. disbelief

Shhhhh!!

And, Jimi never would have bragged about wearing a chain "around his hip." disbelief
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Reply #169 posted 05/31/08 12:53am

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blackguitaristz said:


Even better...

SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."


clapping Congratulations.
Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #170 posted 05/31/08 7:15am

BaileyWalker

Both are great!

But Prince is way better! Jimi Hendrix played sloppy. He wasnt as crisp as Prince is.

No excuses, sloppy is sloppy and there is allot of live performances I have heard where Jimi was real sloppy. If I tried in 25+ years of listening to Prince play guitar that he was ever sloppy and wasnt crisp/tight with his playing.

But again we are talking about
1.a
1.b

Both are GREAT!
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Reply #171 posted 05/31/08 7:22am

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BaileyWalker said:

Both are great!

But Prince is way better! Jimi Hendrix played sloppy. He wasnt as crisp as Prince is.

No excuses, sloppy is sloppy and there is allot of live performances I have heard where Jimi was real sloppy. If I tried in 25+ years of listening to Prince play guitar that he was ever sloppy and wasnt crisp/tight with his playing.

But again we are talking about
1.a
1.b



Both are GREAT!
I appreciate your opinion. You find degrees sloppiness all over the blues, though. Even in the same solo, you can find extremes of both.

Prince is a tight guitar player who has found some interesting ways to mask his sloppiness or wrong notes. Often he'll keep playing the figure on before transitioning (often through a bend) to something else.
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Reply #172 posted 05/31/08 7:39am

mayebelle81

Prince was the innovator of selling music over the internet yea?
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Reply #173 posted 05/31/08 7:50am

Graycap23

blackguitaristz said:[quote]

sro100 said:

ThreadBare said:

Could Jimi do "Housequake?" Prince probably wouldn't find it a stretch, since he stole Jimi's "Little Miss Lover" beat for "Tick, Tick Bang..."

It's funny I've owned "Axis" and "Graffiti Bridge" for YEARS, but I never really started listening to "Axis" until lately.

All of a sudden, I couldn't believe it. There was the exact beat from "Tick Tick Bang" Damn!! Only took me ten or 15 years to catch that. I kept thinking the Jimi song should be mixed into "Tick Tick Bang"

Shhhh!!! Don't hurt anybody by bringing that up. I'm pretty sure there are many on here that don't even know Tick Tick Bang was sampled from a Hendrix song. And the ones that did know certainly don't want it brought up on this thread. So,...(whispering) be very quiet.

lol.....yall so wrong.
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Reply #174 posted 05/31/08 8:39am

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rudeboynpg said:

blackguitaristz said:


Even better...

SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."


clapping Congratulations.

On what?
SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Reply #175 posted 05/31/08 9:49am

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How about somebody stepping up to the plate, and in an intelligent fact-based manner, list the innovations (with strict adherence to the meaning of the word) that Prince has initiated.


Anyone?



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Reply #176 posted 05/31/08 9:52am

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theAudience said:

How about somebody stepping up to the plate, and in an intelligent fact-based manner, list the innovations (with strict adherence to the meaning of the word) that Prince has initiated.


Anyone?



tA

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come on, now. No one did splits before Prince, and you know it. hmm
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Reply #177 posted 05/31/08 10:15am

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ThreadBare said:

BaileyWalker said:

Both are great!

But Prince is way better! Jimi Hendrix played sloppy. He wasnt as crisp as Prince is.

No excuses, sloppy is sloppy and there is allot of live performances I have heard where Jimi was real sloppy. If I tried in 25+ years of listening to Prince play guitar that he was ever sloppy and wasnt crisp/tight with his playing.

But again we are talking about
1.a
1.b



Both are GREAT!
I appreciate your opinion. You find degrees sloppiness all over the blues, though. Even in the same solo, you can find extremes of both.

Prince is a tight guitar player who has found some interesting ways to mask his sloppiness or wrong notes. Often he'll keep playing the figure on before transitioning (often through a bend) to something else.

I've heard it referred to as the "blur technique" combined with so many effects that you can't tell what's actually being played. lol


Here's some Space-Blues that has yet to be touched...




...Voodoo Chile


I will give BW the argument that many of the live Hendrix albums (outside of Woodstock, Monterey Pop, Band of Gypsys and possibly one or two others) shouldn't have seen the light of day. However the times I saw him live, he was on the money.


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Reply #178 posted 05/31/08 10:23am

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ThreadBare said:

theAudience said:

How about somebody stepping up to the plate, and in an intelligent fact-based manner, list the innovations (with strict adherence to the meaning of the word) that Prince has initiated.


Anyone?



tA

peace Tribal Disorder

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come on, now. No one did splits before Prince, and you know it. hmm

doh! Aah yes, how ignorant of me. worship


Come to think of it, there wasn't even...



..."thought" until he created it. disbelief



wink



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Reply #179 posted 05/31/08 10:47am

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blackguitaristz said:

rudeboynpg said:



clapping Congratulations.

On what?


On SynthiaRose being in love you, brotha!
Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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