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Thread started 04/14/08 12:08pm

thebanishedone

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who is your choice on rhythm guitar,nile ,thomas mccklary or prince

who is master of funk guitar if yuou have only these three players to choose:
nile rogers from chic
thomas mcclary from commodores
or prince

i cant decide between thomas and prince,maybe prince
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Reply #1 posted 04/14/08 12:22pm

sexxydancer

Prince of course. wink
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Reply #2 posted 04/14/08 1:41pm

Giovanni777

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Easily Prince.

U could have mentioned some bigger challenges, like Phelps "Catfish" Collins, Roger Troutman, Gary Shider, Leroy "Sugarfoot" Bonner, etc.

Let me put it this way:

When I first discovered Prince at 16, I was already playing funk, and had listened 2 every James Brown, Sly & The Family Stone, and Parliament record I could get my hands on.

When I heard Prince's funk playing, I was floored. I stepped up my game QUICKLY. His rythym is uncannily tight, and he does have his own feel or "voice".

He stands right up 2 any of the Funk guitar greats before him, plus some.
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #3 posted 04/14/08 1:47pm

Tame

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Thank God we have more people in this world being funky, than one person. We all need to keep the funk party going. A word from the funkywyz.T cool
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Reply #4 posted 04/14/08 1:51pm

Giovanni777

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Tame said:

Thank God we have more people in this world being funky, than one person. We all need to keep the funk party going. A word from the funkywyz.T cool


Damn straight. Word.
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Reply #5 posted 04/14/08 1:52pm

carlcranshaw

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No Jerome Smith? or Freddie Stone? or Tony Maiden? or Al McKay? or Jimmy Nolan? or David Williams?

I say listen to them ALL and have a funky good time.

[Edited 4/15/08 4:44am]
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Reply #6 posted 04/14/08 2:57pm

SPYZFAN1

Didn't we have just have a thread a while ago on funk rhythm guitarists?

Can't pick one..they're all great. Nile plays banjo chords on the guitar and makes it his own thing. Thomas McClary really never had a chance to stretch out but played what was right for the song. And there's really no need to explain P's rhythm playing.

And Freddie Stone, James Nolan, Tony Maiden, Ray Parker Jr., David Williams, Micheal Hampton, Roger Troutman, Sugarfoot, Catfish Collins and Cornell Dupree all belong in the funk rhythm guitar Hall Of Fame.
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Reply #7 posted 04/14/08 7:05pm

thebanishedone

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Thomas McClary didn't have chance to strech out?
are you sure
every hard funk song by the commodores have his tradmark rhythm guitar.
he develoup distinctive style because of him playing ukelele before guitar
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Reply #8 posted 04/14/08 7:08pm

Dayclear

confused guess.
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Reply #9 posted 04/14/08 7:56pm

SPYZFAN1

I have (and love) all the old 70's Commodores LP's from back in the day and he did come up with some cool licks ("Slippery When Wet", "Too Hot To Trot", "Flying High" etc) but I think he was really confined (lead guitar wise) in The Commodores.


Drac (Slave), Eddie Hazel, Ernie Isley, and even P had songs as the #1 proirity but had their guitar solos strong in the mix. Short enough where it made the point and the song still grooved. And I saw that old 1981 concert where Thomas stepped out for a moment and wailed, but then again I wouldn't put him in the same league as the other cats.

I will say my fave solo by him is "Easy" and the tremelo solo in "Three Times".
He's a great rhythm player but he never really had a chance to show what else he could do.
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Reply #10 posted 04/15/08 4:35am

jonylawson

erm its a PRINCE fansite.....

kinda rhetorical?
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Reply #11 posted 04/15/08 8:53am

blackguitarist
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SPYZFAN1 said:

Didn't we have just have a thread a while ago on funk rhythm guitarists?

Can't pick one..they're all great. Nile plays banjo chords on the guitar and makes it his own thing. Thomas McClary really never had a chance to stretch out but played what was right for the song. And there's really no need to explain P's rhythm playing.

And Freddie Stone, James Nolan, Tony Maiden, Ray Parker Jr., David Williams, Micheal Hampton, Roger Troutman, Sugarfoot, Catfish Collins and Cornell Dupree all belong in the funk rhythm guitar Hall Of Fame.

Yeah, we did just have this topic and really it should be over in the Non Music forum.....My faves on rhythm are;
James Nolan
Roger Troutman
Leroy Sugarfoot Bonner
Nile Rodgers
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Reply #12 posted 04/15/08 8:59am

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Giovanni777 said:

Easily Prince.

U could have mentioned some bigger challenges, like Phelps "Catfish" Collins, Roger Troutman, Gary Shider, Leroy "Sugarfoot" Bonner, etc.

Let me put it this way:

When I first discovered Prince at 16, I was already playing funk, and had listened 2 every James Brown, Sly & The Family Stone, and Parliament record I could get my hands on.

When I heard Prince's funk playing, I was floored. I stepped up my game QUICKLY. His rythym is uncannily tight, and he does have his own feel or "voice".

He stands right up 2 any of the Funk guitar greats before him, plus some.


By the way... I didn't mention Jimmy Nolen, because I regard him as the originator of Funk Guitar, and chose not 2 compare him 2 others. Yes, I could've also mentioned Freddie Stone 4 sure.
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Reply #13 posted 04/15/08 9:16am

usamud

All these guys are getting old. I wish real music would make a comeback. Too much fake electronic stuff. Who is going to carry the funk torch? Will funk disappear altogether and we will only have oldies to listen to?
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Reply #14 posted 04/20/08 12:05pm

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Prince has put all of the best of rhythm guitar in a style that I like best of the three.

Thomas was good but he wasn't outstanding. He didn't get to many songs to play guitar driven parts. And live the Mean Machine guy played a lots of parts.

Nile is great too. He doesn't play banjo chords.

He started off playing in a Freddie Green style using a hollow body. CHIC was on a show with KC And The Sunshine Band and he loved the sound Jerome Smith was getting out of his Telecaster.

Bernard mentioned that was the sound he was hearing in his head instead of the Jazz tone. So Nile went out and got a Strat and the rest is history.

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Reply #15 posted 04/20/08 12:33pm

thebanishedone

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no contraery to the rumors commodores have at least 10 songs
sexy lady
funky situation look what you've done to me
such a woman
slippery when wet
gimme my mule
hold on
come inside
wake up children
x-rated movie
cebu
patch it up...
in live settings guitar was played by thomas,
if they wanted to play funk rock that feautures more guitar
then milan wiliams (keyboards) played rhythm guitar while thomas played lead guitar.

mean machine were mostly horn section ,regular instruments were played by commodores themselfs.
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Reply #16 posted 04/20/08 12:33pm

thebanishedone

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no contraery to the rumors commodores have at least 10 songs
that featured mix of funk and hard rocking guitars
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Reply #17 posted 04/20/08 12:45pm

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The Commodores after Lionel.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...5QWnU69ZK0
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Reply #18 posted 04/20/08 12:52pm

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When I saw them live at the Dome a thousand years ago they had the horn players and another guitar player along with The Commodores that Lionel introduced as "The Mean Machine".

It is a good idea to good back and listen to tracks that thebanishedone pointed out to re-appreciate Thomas' playing.

[Edited 4/20/08 12:55pm]
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Reply #19 posted 04/20/08 1:05pm

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Rootie Kazootie maybe
You saw the apple
hanging on the tree,
But missed the orchid
in your gaze
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Reply #20 posted 04/20/08 1:11pm

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usamud said:

All these guys are getting old. I wish real music would make a comeback. Too much fake electronic stuff. Who is going to carry the funk torch? Will funk disappear altogether and we will only have oldies to listen to?


I will. guitar And this is gonna be the year for the nu funk. New Wave Funk! Just you wait and see. wink

But to answer the question...come on, man. You can't mess with my little purple hero. I spent hours upon hours practicing funk rhythm guitar because of this man. With all due respect to Chic and the Commodores, I mean, they had some pretty mean funk guitarists.

And while folks are on the subject of funk guitarists, you may as well throw in my other influence of mine, John Frusciante of the Chili Peppers. My man is nasty. I don't care what you say. White rocker, whatever, fuck you, the man has the FUNK.
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