A reunion would be nice (and a tour would be very profitable) since all these 80s acts are getting back together. I'd be happy with just a one-time performance of Revolution hits on Pay-Per-View. But a major city tour would be great and very profitable. NY, LA, London, Tokyo, Paris. Of course, by the time they get to LA, they'd be at each other's throats and the tour would be over haha.

W&L are so great, they don't need Prince. They should do a world tour on their own.

Graycap23 said:

do other people's opinion hurt your feelings that much?

sosgemini said:

Lol.....I'm serious.

Graycap23 said:

lol, Funk is in your soul! not your DARK- Nes, lol whatever the fuck that is, (skin color?),thats why i mentioned listening to James Brown Soul Brother #1 In a bright sunny atmosphere, and i could feel it!

Its all good tho, I'm happy you like POOM POOM and Jughead and all the other NPG calssics lol, thats cool bro.
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jstar69 said:

funny how the original version doesn't have that cowbell tho

violetblues said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

violetblues said:




Well lets see,


1. The Revolution era is universally critically aclaimed, and the most popular.
popular doesn't mean better
By every music critics top Prince albums lists, in merit lol

yeah and that album is called sign o times not purple rain or parade, even the rainbow children gets more props in critical acclaim. PR is just his most popular one

2. NPG era has been univerally critically dumped on, has never been very popular.

by who?
By every music critic alive, and those yet to be born, and the general population as a whole mostly


i think u need 2 read those liner notes by jim walsh again in the booklet 4 TGE
3. The Revolution era was artistically groundbreaking.

yet he funked it up with sign o the times ..sans the revolution

It sure wasnt the NPG either, They were a couple of revolution members on that tour if you remember!!!

the only memembers from the original revolution was fink, eric, atlanta came on during the xpanded version and miko was originally with sheila e

4. The NPG era has been nothing but retreads and nothing more, no matter the talented musicians he hires.

that's just ur opinion (respected) some just don't like funk

Nope,by every music critic alive, and those yet to be born, and the general population as a whole mostly,..and if by "funk" you mean "dumb", then no i dont like it

u live by a critics every single word like it's the bible don't u? good lawd man ..form ur own musical taste instead of what u read in a newspaper article


Now, you have to look back and check yourself, you have to be able to look at where youve been and where you are headed.

...or else you wind up doing what he has been doing lately, going in circles getting nowhere.

I show you the light but you still perfer to live in darkness!

i think it's u that's in the darkness of denial

Open your eyes and you shall see!

i did open my eyes once the revolution was FIRED and came 2 find out that prince's music has never been FUNKIER without them!!!

sosgemini said:

let's see if i hold 3121 in the palm of my hand (sonny t and michael b) and then i hold up PE (wendy & lisa) in the other...

i'll choose 3121 instead

toots said:

oh no i get what sosgemini is saying but when he's influenced by certain people around him it is either really good material or just plain crap. I have never had a problem with any album prince has put out prior 2 PE. if it's not someone else's cup of tea, that's cool. just as u will find others that praise PE, 4 me the inclusion of any member of the revolution with the xception of fink just makes the music he makes now, a crappy idea

L4OATheOriginal said:

so would i...but weren't sonny t & michael b only one one song on 3121? and arent they one one song on PE? and didn't michael b explain to us, here on the org, that his role on that one song was limited? just like w&l have stated about their contributions on PE?

all hail the return of logic.

L4OATheOriginal said:

okay, just stop making up sh*t...just stop it now. voice your opinion but don't start pulling sh*t out of your arse to justify your opinion...


jes louis.

violetblues said:

This response is going to be long, but I just have to respond to this.



This is inaccurate in several ways.

I have to say that I am still very perplexed by the people who attribute Prince's greatness to W&L. Also, some say his "greatest, most creative" period was with the Revolution, or that those songs are the most popular or biggest hits. However, I do not see this. We can all agree that Purple Rain was Prince's biggest commercial succes, but in terms of the music, I do not recall The Revoultion/W&L having as much input on that album as some of you claim. Their input is more apparent on ATWIAD and Parade. Those two albums are, in my opinion, the only two real "Prince & The Revolution" albums. So when you point to that era, this is what I think of, the TWO albums that the Revolution partially "influenced." Some of you claim that ATWIAD and Parade were such great hits that were pivotal in Prince's career, all fueled by W&L during that time, but the reality is that they were not. ATWIAD was the moment that casual fans started to go WTF?, especially the earlier R&B/Funk/Soul fans. When Parade came many of these listeners were beginning to pass on Prince. Then the post-Revolution album SOTT brought a lot of them back.

In acutuality, the biggest "hit" from Parade was "Kiss." The biggest hits from ATWIAD were "Pop Life" and "America." Outside of the "fams," and especially the W&L fans, most of the people who I talk to (hardcore and casual fans/listeners) do not list songs off ATWIAD or Parade among their favorite Prince songs. Songs like "Mountains," "Girls and Boys," "Anotherloverholeinyohead," and "America" may have received airplay because of Prince's level of success at the time, but they are not the crowning/critical moments of his career or creativity. Arguments can be made for pre- and post-Revolution music being just as, if not more, significant in his musical legacy. Controversy, Dirty Mind, 1999, SOTT, and LoveSexy were also released in the 1980s, so you cannot attribute the majority of the good music and success of that decade to the Revolution/W&L. The facts simply do not support that assertion.

I REALLY think that the "Jughead" and "Poom Poom" references are a very unfair assessment of Prince's later work. There were WONDERFUL songs on the D&P album, so to single out "Jughead" is ludicrous. The title track, "Cream," and "Gett Off" are arguably as popular as anything from ATWIAD or Parade, and "Insatiable" was very popular on the R&B side. Many of Prince's post-Revolution albums (Grafitti Bridge, D&P, The Symbol Album, Emancipation, TGE, TRC, 3121, etc.) have had some really good and/or great songs on them and some misses, just like all of his other albums. His albums have always been a mixed bag. Some people will dig some stuff more than others, that's life. People can point to throwaways on ATWIAD and Parade too. Purple Rain was probably the most "cohesive" album because it was created partly as a vehicle to cross him over into the mainstream. However, Prince has had post-Revolution success. It is very incorrect to assert that "nobody cares about Prince's post-88" music. Finally, to make the statement that W&L are the reason why Prince is "who we know him to be" comes off as extremely biased and completely untrue.

sosgemini said:

well let's look at this 4 a moment tho :

wendy & lisa r successful in the film score industry but as a recording duo they haven't been

bobby z yeah that solo album went very far

brownmark 2 solo albums and even with prince's help on the 2nd album it went nowhere

fink does anyone even own ultrasound outside of die hard crew?

i'm not saying that the members that have left the npg r burning up over the world but damn even JT recognized that john blackwell and mike scott can kick it live

sosgemini said:

i never saw michael b's explanations but how many times has prince recalled in sonny t and michael b 2 work on tracks since they left the NPG over w & L with more successful acclaim then w & l returning?

L4OATheOriginal said:

I'm waiting on the W&L concert tour.....with bated breath.

L4OATheOriginal said:

more successful acclaim? the past decade or so prince has been a one man show...you cant credit anyone other then prince for the crap that he has been releasing...and it's all been crap IMHO with an interesting but still disappointing TRC as his only artistic outreach.

besides, what the hell does any of this have to do with the topic of discussion? you don't want p to work with the revolution...fine, move on.

sosgemini said:

i'm not pulling it out my ass u need 2 go check back on those articles about the rainbow children and the subsequent ONA tour

L4OATheOriginal said:

and what does anything of this have to do with the price of tea in china?

Graycap23 said:

well keep on waiting...cause you will get a call directly from prince sharing insider information with you before that happens.

but yet again, what does any of this have to do with wanting a revolution or not? oh yeah, you dont want it to happen and your getting your kicks by belittling other people's music taste...

real grown up of you.

sosgemini said:

Interesting perspective. I'm being serious.

L4OATheOriginal said:

well, if you prefer TRC and the ONA tour then super...and if you want to qualify your statement with proof of articles and reviews, post them...

but until such time, your smoking crack...whitney.

Graycap23 said:

oh yeah, and everybody on this websites knows just how serious you can be.

bellanoche said:

it would b fair 2 say that those that like pop rock will always choose the revolution daze ..where as hard core r & b funk fans will choose pre revolution and the npg ..some never accepted the welcome 2 the dawn

sosgemini said:

how many times has thread gone a little left center of a topic?

npg 2 the maximum the exodus has begun npg now and 4ever!!!

L4OATheOriginal said:

You summed it up perfectly. I really think that is what it boils down to. The Pop/Rock fans seems to prefer the Revolution/W&L period and really seem to dismiss the R&B/Funk stuff. The R&B/Funk fans don't seem to totally dismiss the Pop/Rock stuff, they appear to keep it in perspective. However, the great thing about it is that Prince's catalog is so diverse that there is something for everyone, even those who are mired in nostalgia.

sosgemini said:

it means that the revolution is highly overated

sosgemini said:

Interesting comments from a so called MOD.
Now it appears.....they know yours as well.
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sosgemini said:

fine i'll post them later then ..bobby!!! just as soon as u pull out PROOF of articles about the revolution then i'm game

bellanoche said:

this is y prince created the black album in the 1st place 2 regain his funk fans

it's like talking to two year old...i swear.