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Reply #60 posted 01/23/08 1:50pm

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blackguitaristz said:

Hmmm....being that I've written threads that dealt with this subject matter in the past;

Private Joy
D.M.S.R.
Automatic
Lady Cab Driver (edited of course)
Darling Nikki (instead of Baby, I'm A Star AND the song Purple Rain)
Paisley Park
Hot Thing
Lovesexy (title cut)
Anna Stesia
Positivity


i heard this much on the radio when i lived in the Miami .. that's how i became a Prince fan
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Reply #61 posted 01/23/08 2:20pm

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All the songs that are bolded, my God, if I hadn't taken any Pepto Bismo before I saw this list, I'd be in the bathroom now. These songs or most of them would have been HUGE and would have taken many of the albums to greater sales but only in the mind of Prince would these fantastic songs never come out for the entire world to hear, radio not just on record. It's just plain sad as hell to see this list, even songs that I didn't put in bold. disbelief sad


Just to rub it in, here's the list again with a little more info...

The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker - extended version made. The artwork for the unreleased 12" of this has also appeared online before (used the same picture that ended up on the UK 12" picture disc for If I Was Your Girlfriend).

Housequake - was originally intended as the B-Side to Shockadelica! Then was considered for an A-Side release in it's own right, before winding up on the B-Side to U Got The look. It's also worth mentioning that the 'Razormaid Remix' that turned up on a few DJ releases was officially commissioned, but Prince decided not to use it in the end.

Hot Thing - again, this was considered as an A-Side before getting used as the B-Side to I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man (which incidentally, also had an unreleased extended remix made too). Should really be considered as a double A-Side release really, as a lot of radio stations flipped the record over and played Hot Thing anyway. A promo 12" of just Hot Thing was made too.

Strange Relationship - extended remix made. Was considered as the follow up single to I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man, until it became clear that Prince wanted to forget promoting Sign O' The Times and move on to his next project: Lovesexy.

Lovesexy - extended remixes made, plus single edits. Came very close to actually being released. Prince had wanted to shelve the release of Glam Slam in favor of the title track (I think he should've... they could always have still released Glam Slam as the 3rd single)

Eye No - radically different dance remixes made. Shelved once Prince became involved with the Batman project.

Trust - several remixes, dub versions and edits made. Intended as the follow up to Scandalous, shelved in favor of The Future (which was only released in Europe in the end).

The Question Of U - extended version and dub/orchestral versions made. Was originally intended to be the lead single from Graffiti Bridge until Prince wrote Thieves In The Temple at the last minute and decided to release that instead. Writing a new song at the last minute, squeezing it onto the album and releasing it as the first single is actually a very common occurrence for Prince. A lot have his biggest hits fit into this category!

Elephants & Flowers - considered as a follow up to New Power Generation. Don't know if any remixes were made though. Proposed B-Side was 'Number One' featuring Robin Power (which was rapped to the beat of Elephants & Flowers anyway).

Willing & Able - was originally going to be the follow up to Diamonds And Pearls until Prince changed his mind and released Money Don't Matter instead. Incidentally, the picture cover was exactly the same too, they just changed the song title!

Walk Don't Walk - originally considered for single release. Unknown whether any mixes were made.

The Continental - remixes made. It was even advertised on the front of the album, and was planned as the follow up to '7'. The B-Side was going to be the second half of the song (featuring Carmen Electra) re-titled "Tell Me How U Wanna Be Done", one of the remixes of this surfaced on Crystal Ball.

The Max - remixes made

Blue Light - considered for a single release, was eventually shelved in favor of The Morning Papers. Don't know if any remixes were made. Sweet Baby was intended as the B-Side.

Come - loads of alternate recordings and remixes made of this one! 18 & Over was originally one of these remixes (a bit like Violet The Organ Grinder and Gangster Glam were to Gett Off).

Loose! - several remixes and dub versions made of this one too. One of these mixes surfaced on Crystal Ball.

Dolphin - intended as a single, was even supplied to several European radio stations to play. Haven't seen any remixes of it, but there was a single edit made and the B-Side was We March.

P. Control - several remixes made. A promo cassette featuring a House Mix and a Club Mix (which later surfaced on Crystal Ball) and a CD featuring 319 on the B-Side were manufactured.

Endorphinmachine - intended as a single, and was actually manufactured as a promo CD in Japan.

The Same December - intended as the follow up to Dinner With Delores

Slave - originally intended as the lead single from Emancipation, promo cassette copies were manufactured and given out (the B-Side was New World, which incidentally was originally intended as the the B-Side to The Most Beautiful Girl In The World)

Face Down - remixes made, promo CD and 12"s manufactured

Sleep Around - intended as a single, edits and mixes made

Extraordinary - intended as a single, promo CDs made

5 Women - intended as a single, promo CDs made

Man O' War - intended as a single, promo CDs made. Remix also made which surfaced on the Rave In2 album.

Baby Knows - intended as a single. The extended version surfaced on the Rave In2 album.

So Far, So Pleased - intended as a single, remix made

Hot Wit U - several remixes made, intended to be released as a limited edition double 12" entitled The Hot Xperience.
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[Edited 1/23/08 14:40pm]
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Reply #62 posted 01/24/08 1:47am

SoulAlive

"The Continental" really should have been a single.
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Reply #63 posted 01/24/08 1:54am

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hmmm 17 days. ("why don't u answer ur phone baby!") love that song! love worship and the ballad of dorothy parker if only to hear that 12 inch version, i'd DIE to hear that, seriously. drool. a 12 inch version for 17 days too, i know he's got one, the jerk.hmph! cry
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Reply #64 posted 01/24/08 1:59am

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17 Days was originally intended for the Vanity 6 / Apollonia 6 album (sung by
Brenda). It was replaced by Blue Limousine and Prince reclaimed the track as a
b-side. There is a longer version of it in the vault, but this isn't circulating.
(there is a fan-made extended version out there though)
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Reply #65 posted 01/24/08 2:20am

SoulAlive

purplecam said:

SoulAlive said:

What about "The Question Of U"? Prince picked that song as the first single from 'GB'.He even shot a video for it but I guess he changed his mind and went with "Thieves In The Temple" instead.


What do you think? Was "The Question Of U" worthy of being of a single?

I do but not as the 1st single. If it would have been the 3rd single, then it would have been on point.


Yeah,I think it would have been an odd choice for the first single.I think these should have been the singles from 'GB',in this order...

"Thieves In The Temple"
"Can't Stop This Feeling I Got"
--- (the video could have used the footage that was deleted from the movie....where Prince is dancing up a storm).
"The Question Of U"
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Reply #66 posted 01/24/08 2:22am

SoulAlive

purplecam said:

SoulAlive said:



Thanks for the info.It's frustrating to know that "Lovesexy" came so close to being a single! mad Another missed opportunity.

Isn't that just disturbing? I mean why set up remixes for a single if you're not going to release the damn song? Damn, only Prince would do shit like this. rolleyes


It would have been interesting to hear the single edit of this song.Obviously,it wouldn't include the outrageous spoken part at the end lol That would have been too bold for radio,lol.
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Reply #67 posted 01/24/08 2:49am

SoulAlive

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Hmmm....being that I've written threads that dealt with this subject matter in the past;

Private Joy
D.M.S.R.
Automatic
Lady Cab Driver (edited of course)
Darling Nikki (instead of Baby, I'm A Star AND the song Purple Rain)
Paisley Park
Hot Thing
Lovesexy (title cut)
Anna Stesia
Positivity


I agree with all of your choices,except for "Darling Nikki" (too steamy for pop radio,lol),"Anna Stesia" and "Positivity" (I don't think radio would have embraced these two songs).
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Reply #68 posted 01/24/08 2:58am

SoulAlive

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I thought Automatic was released as a single too since I had seen the video back in the 80's but I was shocked to hear otherwise. That song would have been huge. Automatic is still the cut!


Indeed.I think it's one of the top three songs on the '1999' album.It really should have been a single.Warners released "Let's Pretend We're Married" as a single and that song went nowhere.The video wasn't even aired back then.I saw it for the first time a few months ago!
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Reply #69 posted 01/24/08 4:32am

SoulAlive

I think "The Future" should have been a single.It should have been the second single,after "Batdance".Don't get me wrong,I like "Partyman" but I don't think it was a good single choice (Rolling Stone magazine described it as "filler").I think they only released it as a single because of the major exposure it received in the film.But these should have been the singles from 'Batman',in this order...

"Batdance"
"The Future"
"Trust"
---woulda been a huge dance hit! It's fast and relentless,and the remix possibilities were endless.Put "Lemon Crush" on the B-side and you woulda had a kickass Prince single (imagine a 12" maxi-single with fantastic remixes for both songs).
"Scandalous"
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Reply #70 posted 01/24/08 7:03am

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BorisFishpaw said:

purplecam said:


Isn't that just disturbing? I mean why set up remixes for a single if you're not going to release the damn song? Damn, only Prince would do shit like this. rolleyes


Believe me, it's VERY common for Prince. There's tons of unused remixes,
edits and extended versions of songs in the vault. And it's not just all the
unreleased singles, there's lots of unused mixes sitting there for tracks that
were singles too! Not just in-house extended versions and remixes, but
mixes commissioned by well known remixers too.
[Edited 1/23/08 13:37pm]

barf Disgraceful but I know you're right. I was informed about a recent song that's in this same category. It just makes me so mad that Prince could do all of this. He's so concerned about "being #1 at the bank" but then doesn't do the things that can make him #1 EVERYWHERE, let alone his bank account. It's just sickening.
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Reply #71 posted 01/24/08 7:12am

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SoulAlive said:

purplecam said:

I thought Automatic was released as a single too since I had seen the video back in the 80's but I was shocked to hear otherwise. That song would have been huge. Automatic is still the cut!


Indeed.I think it's one of the top three songs on the '1999' album.It really should have been a single.Warners released "Let's Pretend We're Married" as a single and that song went nowhere.The video wasn't even aired back then.I saw it for the first time a few months ago!

Yeah, I saw the video in 2006 and I was stunned that there was even a video to begin with. This topic is part of why I say everything wasn't all roses in the 1980's either. Better material, sure, but the bad choices really started around the 1999 period with singles choices like this.
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Reply #72 posted 01/24/08 7:14am

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BorisFishpaw said:

purplecam said:


All the songs that are bolded, my God, if I hadn't taken any Pepto Bismo before I saw this list, I'd be in the bathroom now. These songs or most of them would have been HUGE and would have taken many of the albums to greater sales but only in the mind of Prince would these fantastic songs never come out for the entire world to hear, radio not just on record. It's just plain sad as hell to see this list, even songs that I didn't put in bold. disbelief sad


Just to rub it in, here's the list again with a little more info...

The Ballad Of Dorothy Parker - extended version made. The artwork for the unreleased 12" of this has also appeared online before (used the same picture that ended up on the UK 12" picture disc for If I Was Your Girlfriend).

Housequake - was originally intended as the B-Side to Shockadelica! Then was considered for an A-Side release in it's own right, before winding up on the B-Side to U Got The look. It's also worth mentioning that the 'Razormaid Remix' that turned up on a few DJ releases was officially commissioned, but Prince decided not to use it in the end.

Hot Thing - again, this was considered as an A-Side before getting used as the B-Side to I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man (which incidentally, also had an unreleased extended remix made too). Should really be considered as a double A-Side release really, as a lot of radio stations flipped the record over and played Hot Thing anyway. A promo 12" of just Hot Thing was made too.

Strange Relationship - extended remix made. Was considered as the follow up single to I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man, until it became clear that Prince wanted to forget promoting Sign O' The Times and move on to his next project: Lovesexy.

Lovesexy - extended remixes made, plus single edits. Came very close to actually being released. Prince had wanted to shelve the release of Glam Slam in favor of the title track (I think he should've... they could always have still released Glam Slam as the 3rd single)

Eye No - radically different dance remixes made. Shelved once Prince became involved with the Batman project.

Trust - several remixes, dub versions and edits made. Intended as the follow up to Scandalous, shelved in favor of The Future (which was only released in Europe in the end).

The Question Of U - extended version and dub/orchestral versions made. Was originally intended to be the lead single from Graffiti Bridge until Prince wrote Thieves In The Temple at the last minute and decided to release that instead. Writing a new song at the last minute, squeezing it onto the album and releasing it as the first single is actually a very common occurrence for Prince. A lot have his biggest hits fit into this category!

Elephants & Flowers - considered as a follow up to New Power Generation. Don't know if any remixes were made though. Proposed B-Side was 'Number One' featuring Robin Power (which was rapped to the beat of Elephants & Flowers anyway).

Willing & Able - was originally going to be the follow up to Diamonds And Pearls until Prince changed his mind and released Money Don't Matter instead. Incidentally, the picture cover was exactly the same too, they just changed the song title!

Walk Don't Walk - originally considered for single release. Unknown whether any mixes were made.

The Continental - remixes made. It was even advertised on the front of the album, and was planned as the follow up to '7'. The B-Side was going to be the second half of the song (featuring Carmen Electra) re-titled "Tell Me How U Wanna Be Done", one of the remixes of this surfaced on Crystal Ball.

The Max - remixes made

Blue Light - considered for a single release, was eventually shelved in favor of The Morning Papers. Don't know if any remixes were made. Sweet Baby was intended as the B-Side.

Come - loads of alternate recordings and remixes made of this one! 18 & Over was originally one of these remixes (a bit like Violet The Organ Grinder and Gangster Glam were to Gett Off).

Loose! - several remixes and dub versions made of this one too. One of these mixes surfaced on Crystal Ball.

Dolphin - intended as a single, was even supplied to several European radio stations to play. Haven't seen any remixes of it, but there was a single edit made and the B-Side was We March.

P. Control - several remixes made. A promo cassette featuring a House Mix and a Club Mix (which later surfaced on Crystal Ball) and a CD featuring 319 on the B-Side were manufactured.

Endorphinmachine - intended as a single, and was actually manufactured as a promo CD in Japan.

The Same December - intended as the follow up to Dinner With Delores

Slave - originally intended as the lead single from Emancipation, promo cassette copies were manufactured and given out (the B-Side was New World, which incidentally was originally intended as the the B-Side to The Most Beautiful Girl In The World)

Face Down - remixes made, promo CD and 12"s manufactured

Sleep Around - intended as a single, edits and mixes made

Extraordinary - intended as a single, promo CDs made

5 Women - intended as a single, promo CDs made

Man O' War - intended as a single, promo CDs made. Remix also made which surfaced on the Rave In2 album.

Baby Knows - intended as a single. The extended version surfaced on the Rave In2 album.

So Far, So Pleased - intended as a single, remix made

Hot Wit U - several remixes made, intended to be released as a limited edition double 12" entitled The Hot Xperience.
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[Edited 1/23/08 14:40pm]

My God, talk about putting more salt in the wound. This is just plain awful. I'm just speechless over this list. Only Prince man. Only Prince disbelief
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Reply #73 posted 01/24/08 1:23pm

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Tame said:

There could always be a chance, that I don't know what was released as a single, because, running out and buying the whole cd everytime they came out, put Prince's music at my fingertips...

However...I will list some songs that I believe deserved repetitive air play.
Pink Cashmere
Don't say U Love me
Spirit
Open Book

Starfish and Coffee
It's gonna be a beautiful night
Gotta broken heart again
Love 2 the 9's
The Everlasting Now
When U love somebody
Paisley Park
Push
Willin' and Able
Sweet baby
Money don't matter
One Kiss at a time
EmaleLife 'o' the party
If eye was the man in your life
Dear Mr, Man
Black Sweat
Somewhere Here on earth


in bold these were singles that WERE released

italica bold r the ones that were made by martika and jevetta steele
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #74 posted 01/24/08 1:23pm

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December1984 said:

I always thought "Paisley Park" should have been the lead-off single in the U.S. I could see it getting released early spring (before the album) then save "Raspberry Beret" for the big summertime hit.


I agree! "Paisley Park" should have been the first single.It's the strongest song on that album.Release "Paisley Park" (early spring),then "Raspberry Beret" (summer),then finally release "Pop Life" as the third single (late summer).

It made no sense to release "America" as a single.That song is nothing special and the music sounds just like "Baby,I'm A Star".
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so says u tease that's my jam right there!!
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #75 posted 01/24/08 1:27pm

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SoulAlive said:

other songs that should have been singles:

***"Can't Stop This Feeling I Got"---I was so disappointed when Prince released the lame "New Power Generation" as his second single from GB,instead of the superior opening track."Can't Stop..." is fast,vibrant and reminiscent of "Let's Go Crazy".



shake NPG is the joint!!! headbang
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #76 posted 01/24/08 1:43pm

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mentalist said:

SoulAlive said:

Prince once said in an interview that he wanted to release "Anna Stesia" as a single,but Warners objected because the word "God" is used in the song.What do you guys think? Could it have been a single? I don't think too many pop stations would have touched it.


It's possible with the God thing but it's usually if it's in the title. I know that Kate bush's Running up that Hill was originally titled 'a deal with God' but she had to change it for release (although she kept it as a subtitle).

As fantastic as Anna Stesia is, I don't think it would have had major airplay.

Definitely Lovesexy, and maybe When 2 r in Love for singles.
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prior 2 lovesexy coming out ..i had heard it on WBLS in New York but only heard the later half..my cousin and I had thought it was Jesse johnson but when the dj came back on and said it was Prince we were woot!
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Reply #77 posted 01/24/08 2:50pm

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The Word cool
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Reply #78 posted 01/25/08 5:40am

SoulAlive

L4OATheOriginal said:

SoulAlive said:

other songs that should have been singles:

***"Can't Stop This Feeling I Got"---I was so disappointed when Prince released the lame "New Power Generation" as his second single from GB,instead of the superior opening track."Can't Stop..." is fast,vibrant and reminiscent of "Let's Go Crazy".



shake NPG is the joint!!! headbang


I think "New Power Generation" is a lame,by-the-numbers R&B song that sounds like any other R&B song from that era.A very disappointing Prince single.
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Reply #79 posted 01/25/08 6:15am

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The Word cool

Ain't that the damn truth? The song would have blown the fuck up!
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Reply #80 posted 01/25/08 7:32am

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okay here is my list of songs

i'm yours
when u were mine
sexuality (unless it was released elsewhere)
lemon crush
tick tick bang
daddy pop
the max
the continential
race
now
dolphin
billy jack bitch
i like it there
in this bed i scream
soul sanctuary
emale
style
hot wit u
dear mr man
3121
love
the word
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #81 posted 01/25/08 7:43am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

okay here is my list of songs

i'm yours
when u were mine
sexuality (unless it was released elsewhere)
lemon crush
tick tick bang
daddy pop
the max
the continential
race
now
dolphin
billy jack bitch
i like it there
in this bed i scream
soul sanctuary
emale
style
hot wit u
dear mr man
3121
love
the word


Not only would they have been good singles but they are among my favourite favourites of Prince.

The only ones I would maybe change is Emale, and The word.
I would choose the nasty girl remix of Hot wit U as well. Otherwise perfect.
Quite shameful that I've hi-jacked about 3 different replies and not submitted my own!

I'm sure I have Sexuality on Japanese 7"!

Electric chair should have been a normal single release too.
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Reply #82 posted 01/25/08 8:06am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

okay here is my list of songs

i'm yours
when u were mine
sexuality (unless it was released elsewhere)
lemon crush
daddy pop
the max
the continential
now
dolphin
billy jack bitch
i like it there
in this bed i scream
soul sanctuary
emale
style
hot wit u
dear mr man
3121
love
the word

I'm with you on these songs right here. nod
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Reply #83 posted 01/25/08 9:51am

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L4OATheOriginal said:


lemon crush

love


Yes, and YES!!!

Lemon Crush was - at the time - my most heavily-played song. It was on all my "mix tapes". (boxed am I dating myslef?)

...and LOVE is an awesome tune! Definitely should'a been released!
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purplecam said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

okay here is my list of songs

i'm yours
when u were mine
sexuality (unless it was released elsewhere)
lemon crush
daddy pop
the max
the continential
now
dolphin
billy jack bitch
i like it there
in this bed i scream
soul sanctuary
emale
style
hot wit u
dear mr man
3121
love
the word

I'm with you on these songs right here. nod


still want me 2 get out of yo head? lol
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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PurpleJedi said:

L4OATheOriginal said:


lemon crush

love


Yes, and YES!!!

Lemon Crush was - at the time - my most heavily-played song. It was on all my "mix tapes". (boxed am I dating myslef?)

...and LOVE is an awesome tune! Definitely should'a been released!


something about that 2nd verse of lemon crush headbang
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Reply #86 posted 01/25/08 11:12am

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***"Private Joy"---the best song on 'Controversy'.Shoulda been the third single,after "Let's Work".I bet this song would have been Prince's first big crossover hit.

***"Lovesexy"---shoulda been the second single.

***"Automatic"

***"Girls And Boys"---It was released as a single outside of America,but I think it should have been the official second single in the States,too.

***"The Future"

***"It"

***"Sleep Around"---woulda been a cool first single from 'Emancipation'

***[b]"So Far,So Pleased"---Yes,the 'Rave' album has its flaws,but when it's good,it's very good.This song had "hit" written all over it.
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I think No Doubt were releasing an album around tha ttime and legally they couldn't release So Far, So Pleased as Gwen Stefani dueted on it. A pity
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Reply #87 posted 01/25/08 11:19am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

purplecam said:


I'm with you on these songs right here. nod


still want me 2 get out of yo head? lol

falloff You can stay, we've been on the same page on most things lately.
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purplecam said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



still want me 2 get out of yo head? lol

falloff You can stay, we've been on the same page on most things lately.



now if only u can agree with me about his setlist falloff
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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L4OATheOriginal said:

dear mr man


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