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Thread started 01/14/08 9:37am

optimus

The Ladder - What do u think is the meaning of the song?

The Ladder - great song by the way,but what does he mean by sayin every1s lookin 4 a ladder?(i know its not meant 2 be litrally lol) Does he mean ladder to heaven? or climb up the ladder of life to better urself? or is it anyway u interprite the material? share ur thoughts on the song
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Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul
The steps U take are no easy road
But the reward is great
4 those who want 2 go
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Reply #1 posted 01/14/08 9:41am

L4OATheOrigina
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seeking a higher self
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #2 posted 01/14/08 9:59am

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The clue is in the lyrics. They are obvious TBH. Some of the most obvious lyrics he has written.
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Reply #3 posted 01/14/08 10:14am

optimus

studal said:

The clue is in the lyrics. They are obvious TBH. Some of the most obvious lyrics he has written.

no they r not he starts with sayin about sum king with a subject called electra who loves him and he doesent say thank u or plz and dosent finish the story just goes on about sum king lookin 4 a ladder and my point is y would a king want 2 better himself? hes the king 4 cryin out load y would he give a toss 2 better himself?
Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul
The steps U take are no easy road
But the reward is great
4 those who want 2 go
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Reply #4 posted 01/14/08 10:16am

optimus

studal said:

The clue is in the lyrics. They are obvious TBH. Some of the most obvious lyrics he has written.

no they r not he starts with sayin about sum king with a subject called electra who loves him and he doesent say thank u or plz and dosent finish the story just goes on about sum king lookin 4 a ladder and my point is y would a king want 2 better himself? hes the king 4 cryin out load y would he give a toss about betterin himself?
Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul
The steps U take are no easy road
But the reward is great
4 those who want 2 go
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Reply #5 posted 01/14/08 10:30am

studal

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God some (most) of you here are so anal. Why must everything he does be analised and disected? It's just a song at the end of the day. Who really cares what it is about? Oh and IT IS an obvious sond to decypher. Forget the stupid shit at the start. The rest is self explainatory.

confused confused confused confused
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Reply #6 posted 01/14/08 10:34am

optimus

studal said:[quote]God some (most) of you here are so anal. Why must everything he does be analised and disected? It's just a song at the end of the day. Who really cares what it is about? Oh and IT IS an obvious sond to decypher. Forget the stupid shit at the start. The rest is self explainatory.

ok cool man i was just wonderin thats all razz
Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul
The steps U take are no easy road
But the reward is great
4 those who want 2 go
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Reply #7 posted 01/14/08 10:46am

LaLaLaHeeHeeHe
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i'll add the quest for happiness
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Reply #8 posted 01/14/08 10:50am

optimus

studal said:

God some (most) of you here are so anal. Why must everything he does be analised and disected? It's just a song at the end of the day. Who really cares what it is about? Oh and IT IS an obvious sond to decypher. Forget the stupid shit at the start. The rest is self explainatory.

confused confused confused confused
oh and im gay so i like anal,so no im not anal but im an anal lover,fuck u very much biggrin
Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul
The steps U take are no easy road
But the reward is great
4 those who want 2 go
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Reply #9 posted 01/14/08 10:56am

studal

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As a gay myself I need at least pic before I take your offer of a fuck.
Looking for a new man. Freaks need not apply. Freeeks can tho ;-p
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Reply #10 posted 01/14/08 11:03am

optimus

studal said:

As a gay myself I need at least pic before I take your offer of a fuck.

well go on princefams go in the forums and my names holmzie(nick name) and my pics on there lol
Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul
The steps U take are no easy road
But the reward is great
4 those who want 2 go
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Reply #11 posted 01/14/08 11:21am

studal

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LOL

the Org has become Gaydar. T'was only a matter of time considering the amount of Mo's here lol lol lol lol lol
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Reply #12 posted 01/14/08 11:26am

optimus

studal said:

LOL

the Org has become Gaydar. T'was only a matter of time considering the amount of Mo's here lol lol lol lol lol

nice to meet u anyway ur first other gay ive met on here lol even if r convo didnt start 2 pleasant lol
Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul
The steps U take are no easy road
But the reward is great
4 those who want 2 go
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Reply #13 posted 01/14/08 11:34am

cinthiarose

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now now peolpe lets not argue!!! lol
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Reply #14 posted 01/14/08 11:36am

optimus

cinthiarose said:

now now peolpe lets not argue!!! lol

well studal started it lol jk
Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul
The steps U take are no easy road
But the reward is great
4 those who want 2 go
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Reply #15 posted 01/14/08 11:42am

Christaro

The Ladder is just a remix version of Led Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven. It's a very good song tho.
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Reply #16 posted 01/14/08 3:35pm

Tame

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The Ladder is a spiritual search for salvation, just like the song explains...It is the freedom to learn that everyone is important and part of God's creation....Either that or it's the ladder that leads to the door that goes nowhere.
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #17 posted 01/14/08 4:45pm

Illustrator

"Everyone's looking for the ladder".
It means that when we really need to fix or install a ceiling fan,
we'll find that we gonna need something to get us up there.
In other words,
in these types of situations, we're all just like Prince.
Short.
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Reply #18 posted 01/14/08 4:49pm

coolcat

Illustrator said:

"Everyone's looking for the ladder".
It means that when we really need to fix or install a ceiling fan,
we'll find that we gonna need something to get us up there.
In other words,
in these types of situations, we're all just like Prince.
Short.


I've got to go with Illustrator's explanation. nod
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Reply #19 posted 01/14/08 5:08pm

wlcm2thdwn

know anything about the bible? confused
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Reply #20 posted 01/14/08 5:51pm

optimus

wlcm2thdwn said:

know anything about the bible? confused

no i dont really i know bits and bobs put me personally its a load of poopies and if there was a god i think hes a right evil enntity how can any 1 who is meant 2 be all powerfull and full of love let the things that go on in this world let it carry on,OH! sorry i forgot eve took the apple b4 there was more of us humans,what a coinsedence(sarcasm),so now we hav to fend 4 rselves lol
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Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul
The steps U take are no easy road
But the reward is great
4 those who want 2 go
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Reply #21 posted 01/14/08 8:14pm

LittleRedCorve
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The beginning of the song is an important element of the entire of the song...

Once upon a time in the land of Sinaplenty
There lived a king who didn't deserve 2 be
He knew not where he came from
Nor where he was going
He never once said thank U, never please


In this verse basically it's talking about a king who didn't deserve to be king. From the line "he never once said thank U, never please" one could surmise that this king took things for granted, and wasn't very nice. The lines "he knew not where he came from" and "nor where he was going" could imply that this King didn't know about God, about "coming from God" and "returning back to God". (Keep in mind during this time Prince was very much into God being a part of you, seeking God within, and that if you don't get it right the first time "you gotta come back and face the light again".) Most people sorta go through life like this king.

Now this king he had a subject named Electra
Who loved him with a passion, uncontested
4 him each day she had a smile
But it didn't matter
The king was looking 4 the ladder


What's interesting in this verse is that the King had someone who loved him unconditionally, but was unaware of it, it didn't matter to the king. "Looking for the ladder" could imply that the King was looking for an easy way to the top, which is supported by other lyrics in the song. It could also be that the ladder symbolizes a bridge of sorts, a getting from "here" to "there" without paying attention to how one gets from "here" to "there" (sort of like when you climb a ladder to hang a chandelier, you aren't concerned with all the rungs of the ladder, just getting from "here" to "there" without paying attention to each step.)

Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul
The steps U take are no easy road
But the reward is great
4 those who want 2 go


The first two lines here imply that everyone is looking for the easy way to salvation, everyone wants to find that ladder. BUT it's not that easy, the journey to salvation is difficult but the rewards are great for the one that wants to undertake that journey.

A feeling of self-worth (everybody's looking)
will caress U (for the answers)
The size of the whole wide world will decrease (how the story started)
(and how it will end)
The love of God's creation will undress U
And time spent alone my friend, will cease


Everybody is trying to find themselves, to find their purpose, to find meaning in their lives, (thus everybody's looking for the answers to how the story started and how the story will end). "A feeling of self-worth will caress U, the size of the whole wide world will decrease, The love of God's creation will undress U, and time spent alone my friend, will cease" means that once you take the journey, once you receive that reward, you realize just how small the world really is, a world of One, and the Love of God strips you bare (right down to your very soul) and you realize you were never alone.

Everybody's looking 4 the answers
How the story started and how it will end
What's the use in half a story, half a dream
U have 2 climb all of the steps in between (yeah, we ride)


If all you ever seek is to know how the story started and how it ends, you only have a half a story. This is a very zen thought. When your dancing, you don't dance waiting for it to be over, you don't wonder how you started dancing, you are in the moment and each step is a lifetime in and of itself. The whole purpose of dancing isn't to start and stop, it's the whole process, all of the steps inbetween.

U, U gotta climb, U gotta climb (U have 2 climb all)
all of the steps in between (the steps in between)


self-explanatory ~ you look at each step, you have to take each step, there isn't a bridge from here to there, it's a process

Then again, this is just my take and could be completely wrong.
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Reply #22 posted 01/15/08 10:10am

optimus

LittleRedCorvette said:

The beginning of the song is an important element of the entire of the song...

Once upon a time in the land of Sinaplenty
There lived a king who didn't deserve 2 be
He knew not where he came from
Nor where he was going
He never once said thank U, never please


In this verse basically it's talking about a king who didn't deserve to be king. From the line "he never once said thank U, never please" one could surmise that this king took things for granted, and wasn't very nice. The lines "he knew not where he came from" and "nor where he was going" could imply that this King didn't know about God, about "coming from God" and "returning back to God". (Keep in mind during this time Prince was very much into God being a part of you, seeking God within, and that if you don't get it right the first time "you gotta come back and face the light again".) Most people sorta go through life like this king.



If all you ever seek is to know how the story started and how it ends, you only have a half a story. This is a very zen thought. When your dancing, you don't dance waiting for it to be over, you don't wonder how you started dancing, you are in the moment and each step is a lifetime in and of itself. The whole purpose of dancing isn't to start and stop, it's the whole process, all of the steps inbetween.

U, U gotta climb, U gotta climb (U have 2 climb all)
all of the steps in between (the steps in between)


self-explanatory ~ you look at each step, you have to take each step, there isn't a bridge from here to there, it's a process

Then again, this is just my take and could be completely wrong.

wow-thats a cool answer uve made me look at in diffrent ways know thanks.i didnt understand the king bit at the beggining but i do know lol,thats what i was looking 4, much apreciated
Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul
The steps U take are no easy road
But the reward is great
4 those who want 2 go
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Reply #23 posted 01/15/08 11:04am

LittleRedCorve
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optimus said:

LittleRedCorvette said:

The beginning of the song is an important element of the entire of the song...



self-explanatory ~ you look at each step, you have to take each step, there isn't a bridge from here to there, it's a process

Then again, this is just my take and could be completely wrong.

wow-thats a cool answer uve made me look at in diffrent ways know thanks.i didnt understand the king bit at the beggining but i do know lol,thats what i was looking 4, much apreciated


You're welcome optimus. Keep in mind though that this is just my take on the meaning of the song. As with all things, it could be something completely different. But I'm glad it helped. biggrin
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Reply #24 posted 01/16/08 4:30am

Christaro

LittleRedCorvette said:

optimus said:


wow-thats a cool answer uve made me look at in diffrent ways know thanks.i didnt understand the king bit at the beggining but i do know lol,thats what i was looking 4, much apreciated


You're welcome optimus. Keep in mind though that this is just my take on the meaning of the song. As with all things, it could be something completely different. But I'm glad it helped. biggrin


You're right Corvette, you are completely wrong about this. nana
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Reply #25 posted 01/16/08 4:32am

Christaro

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Reply #26 posted 01/16/08 4:51am

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I always thought it was a song about window cleaning....
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Reply #27 posted 01/16/08 4:59am

GiGi319

Illustrator said:

"Everyone's looking for the ladder".
It means that when we really need to fix or install a ceiling fan,
we'll find that we gonna need something to get us up there.
In other words,
in these types of situations, we're all just like Prince.
Short.

lol
love the one who is Love!
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Reply #28 posted 01/16/08 5:01am

darrenj

DaveT said:

I always thought it was a song about window cleaning....


It's funny you should say that!lol

The story I heard was this...

Prince comlained about some food his chef served him.

His chef super-glued his car keys to the cieling as revenge.

Prince went looking for a ladder!

How true this is I guess we'll never know!

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Reply #29 posted 01/16/08 5:09am

mentalist

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He needed one for a scene of a film he was writing at the time called Under the cherry Moon purely so Jerome Benton could through stones at his ass!!!!


On a serious note I find it the weakest song of anything he did in '85, and subliminally preachy. Bland!!!!

Give me Temptation instead any day!!!!
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