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Reply #30 posted 12/28/07 3:39pm

deadonit

God I hope he NEVER makes a country album! That would suck and prove that he IS in fact a sellout just trying to please the masses like he did with rap in the early 90's. If he ever approached something like country he should do it with that "Lionel Richie down home Alabama vibe" but still keep that RNB sexiness you know what I mean? I CAN'T STAND about 95% of country music. Except for Lyle Lovett he's great because he is intelligent,eclectic (jazz,blues,big band swing, and gospel) and witty,sly and just plain strange and unique (like Prince). I also like the country flavored albums of Ray Charles and Van Morrison, but thats about it. I would be really dissapointed if Prince made a straight up country record!
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Reply #31 posted 12/28/07 3:53pm

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I guess i should have known
by the way she parked her truck
sideways, that it wouldn't last.
Little red neck!
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Reply #32 posted 12/28/07 3:54pm

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deadonit said:

God I hope he NEVER makes a country album! That would suck and prove that he IS in fact a sellout just trying to please the masses like he did with rap in the early 90's. If he ever approached something like country he should do it with that "Lionel Richie down home Alabama vibe" but still keep that RNB sexiness you know what I mean? I CAN'T STAND about 95% of country music. Except for Lyle Lovett he's great because he is intelligent,eclectic (jazz,blues,gospel) and witty and just plain strange and unique (like Prince). I also like the country flavored albums of Ray Charles and Van Morrison, but thats about it. Maybe I'm ignorant but to me country music is some depressing and negative twangy annoying shit sung by a bunch of mullett wearing rednecks singing about racing,drinking,their car or truck,their dog, and woman cheating on them.
I will never listen to Prince again if he makes a straight up country album!


The music you're refering to is Cuntry not Country. There's a big difference Yes you're ignorant if you think country is "depressing and negative twangy annoying shit sung by a bunch of mullett wearing rednecks singing about racing,drinking,their car or truck,their dog, and woman cheating on them."

You obviously haven't hear Hank III's or David Alan Coe. Real Country music is about partying, fucking, drinking, snorting coke and smoking dope. Johnny Cash's "Cocaine Blues" and most of his music is staight up gangsta shit.
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Reply #33 posted 12/28/07 4:23pm

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i hope prince never grows mullet hair neutral
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Reply #34 posted 12/28/07 4:46pm

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lottielooloo1968 said:

i hope prince never grows mullet hair neutral


Prince had a pretty sweet mullet in the 80's. I could put up some pics, but I'd get sued.
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Reply #35 posted 12/28/07 5:40pm

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purplepolitician said:

i wouldn't put it past him. shy had kind of a country feel to it. i doubt he'd do a whole album like this though. he's been kind of coasting since the rainbow children and NEWS. i hope he throws us a curveball soon but i don't think this is what i (or him, really) have in mind.


Shy had anything but a country vibe to it (thank goodness, its a great song!) save for the signature portamento guitar bend that pervades the tune.

In fact, the closest Prince has ever come to country (yes, even closer than The 1 U Wanna C (which is more rockabilly than country)) was "Right the Wrong" and look how that turned out eek confused lol
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Reply #36 posted 12/28/07 10:30pm

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Whitnail said:[quote]johnnyreeferseed said:[quote]
yep, he would look just great in the overalls, singing about tractors, cornfields, and the neighbours goat.
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Your impression of country music is rather poorly informed. Unsurprising.
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Reply #37 posted 12/29/07 12:52am

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COUNTRY ALBUM cowboy
1. I'm Yours
2. Sister
3. When You Were Mine
4. Purple Rain
5. 4 the Tears in Your Eyes
6. Sometimes it Snows in April
7. The Cross
8. If I Had a Harem
9. Can't Stop this Feeling I Got
10. The Ride
11. Count the Days
12. Right the Wrong
13. Zannalee
14. Tangerine
15. So Far, So Pleased
16. U're Still the One (unreleased covered song version)
17. The One U Wanna C

Yee-haw!
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eye wish U were here baby, on me--
Stuck like glue! heart
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Reply #38 posted 12/29/07 6:13am

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deadonit said:

God I hope he NEVER makes a country album! That would suck and prove that he IS in fact a sellout just trying to please the masses like he did with rap in the early 90's. If he ever approached something like country he should do it with that "Lionel Richie down home Alabama vibe" but still keep that RNB sexiness you know what I mean? I CAN'T STAND about 95% of country music. Except for Lyle Lovett he's great because he is intelligent,eclectic (jazz,blues,gospel) and witty and just plain strange and unique (like Prince). I also like the country flavored albums of Ray Charles and Van Morrison, but thats about it. Maybe I'm ignorant but to me country music is some depressing and negative twangy annoying shit sung by a bunch of mullett wearing rednecks singing about racing,drinking,their car or truck,their dog, and woman cheating on them.
I will never listen to Prince again if he makes a straight up country album!


way to stereotype, dude!

i don't think you know much about the genre, given your quotes above.
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Reply #39 posted 12/29/07 6:42am

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OH HELL TO THE NAW!!!!!
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #40 posted 12/29/07 7:41am

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raveun2thejoyfantastic said:


COUNTRY ALBUM cowboy
1. I'm Yours
2. Sister
3. When You Were Mine
4. Purple Rain
5. 4 the Tears in Your Eyes
6. Sometimes it Snows in April
7. I Could Never take the Place of Your Man
8. The Cross
9. Can't Stop this Feeling I Got
10. Count the Days
11. Right the Wrong
12. Tangerine
13. So Far, So Pleased
14. You're Still the One (unreleased covered song version)
15. Lion of Judah
16. The One U Wanna C

Yee-haw! lol
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Barnstorming, Squaredancing Heaven! eek (or hell,maybe) wink
Yep. That was what I had in mind!!
lol

QUESTION: Where does country end and the blues begin? "The Ride" would sort of fit in here, wouldn't it?
"Had to get off the boat so I could walk on water..."
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Reply #41 posted 12/29/07 9:25am

Riverpoet31

Sigh.....

Again i read here that some people consider "Right the Wrong" as country. Its definetely NOT!

Prince might talk with a southern accent in the song, or you might think the song is shite, but fact is: stylewise it has nothing to do with country. Its a pastiche of Duke Ellington-like big band swing.

In fact, The Same December is far more 'southern' musically. But also that song isnt country. It aches to southern rock by the likes of the Allman Brothers.

It shows most people here dont know a shit about country music.
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Reply #42 posted 12/29/07 9:56am

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Riverpoet31 said:

Sigh.....

Again i read here that some people consider "Right the Wrong" as country. Its definetely NOT!

Prince might talk with a southern accent in the song, or you might think the song is shite, but fact is: stylewise it has nothing to do with country. Its a pastiche of Duke Ellington-like big band swing.

In fact, The Same December is far more 'southern' musically. But also that song isnt country. It aches to southern rock by the likes of the Allman Brothers.

It shows most people here dont know a shit about country music.


I didn't say it "is country music, I said it was close. But, no, I don't really know much about country music - can't stand it, generally. Ball-less, soul-less crooning - and I think you'll find that most people outside the US don't care much for it either, save for massive hits by Dolly and the likes.
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Reply #43 posted 12/29/07 10:37am

Riverpoet31

Well, the truth is: good country is as pure and heartfelt as good soul and good rock.

When it comes to countrymusic, people are easily prejudiced, thinking about the polished 'muzak' often coming from Nashville.

But musicians like Lyle Lovett, Steve Earle, Lucinda Williams and The Jayhawks just show that within the country-field there is 'gold' to be found.

I mean: are ALL funk-artists really that pure and good? You find a lot of washed down discofied 'pap' in that style of music too.
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Reply #44 posted 12/29/07 10:48am

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Riverpoet31 said:

Well, the truth is: good country is as pure and heartfelt as good soul and good rock.

When it comes to countrymusic, people are easily prejudiced, thinking about the polished 'muzak' often coming from Nashville.

But musicians like Lyle Lovett, Steve Earle, Lucinda Williams and The Jayhawks just show that within the country-field there is 'gold' to be found.

I mean: are ALL funk-artists really that pure and good? You find a lot of washed down discofied 'pap' in that style of music too.


Good point. Comparing all country to the crap that's played on the radio would be like saying all funk sounds like Jermaine Stewart or De Barge.

I just think it would be cool for Prince to get down on some banjo, fiddle and mandolin.
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Reply #45 posted 12/29/07 12:34pm

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Riverpoet31 said:

Well, the truth is: good country is as pure and heartfelt as good soul and good rock.

When it comes to countrymusic, people are easily prejudiced, thinking about the polished 'muzak' often coming from Nashville.

But musicians like Lyle Lovett, Steve Earle, Lucinda Williams and The Jayhawks just show that within the country-field there is 'gold' to be found.

I mean: are ALL funk-artists really that pure and good? You find a lot of washed down discofied 'pap' in that style of music too.


Oh, I agree completely - there is great music to be found in any genre and, similarly, 90% of most genres is utter generic rubbish. Its just I really don't have so much of an interest in country as I do in other genres, so I've not bothered pursuing the treasures of that type of music.
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Reply #46 posted 12/29/07 12:40pm

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Mindflux said:

Riverpoet31 said:

Well, the truth is: good country is as pure and heartfelt as good soul and good rock.

When it comes to countrymusic, people are easily prejudiced, thinking about the polished 'muzak' often coming from Nashville.

But musicians like Lyle Lovett, Steve Earle, Lucinda Williams and The Jayhawks just show that within the country-field there is 'gold' to be found.

I mean: are ALL funk-artists really that pure and good? You find a lot of washed down discofied 'pap' in that style of music too.


Oh, I agree completely - there is great music to be found in any genre and, similarly, 90% of most genres is utter generic rubbish. Its just I really don't have so much of an interest in country as I do in other genres, so I've not bothered pursuing the treasures of that type of music.


Get some old Johnny Cash, Hank Sr, Hank III, or Willie Nelson's "Red Headed Stranger" album.
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Reply #47 posted 12/29/07 1:32pm

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johnnyreeferseed said:

Mindflux said:



Oh, I agree completely - there is great music to be found in any genre and, similarly, 90% of most genres is utter generic rubbish. Its just I really don't have so much of an interest in country as I do in other genres, so I've not bothered pursuing the treasures of that type of music.


Get some old Johnny Cash, Hank Sr, Hank III, or Willie Nelson's "Red Headed Stranger" album.

Was there a Hank 2? Did he have no talent or was he the black sheep of the family? You mention (i'm assuming) his dad and son, but no Hank 2 - Why the disrespect?? lol
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Reply #48 posted 12/29/07 1:48pm

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FlamingRaindrop said:

johnnyreeferseed said:



Get some old Johnny Cash, Hank Sr, Hank III, or Willie Nelson's "Red Headed Stranger" album.

Was there a Hank 2? Did he have no talent or was he the black sheep of the family? You mention (i'm assuming) his dad and son, but no Hank 2 - Why the disrespect?? lol


Hank Jr is good too. Just not my style. I just prefer Hank Sr and Hank III rawer, rootsier sounds
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Reply #49 posted 12/29/07 2:37pm

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johnnyreeferseed said:

Mindflux said:



Oh, I agree completely - there is great music to be found in any genre and, similarly, 90% of most genres is utter generic rubbish. Its just I really don't have so much of an interest in country as I do in other genres, so I've not bothered pursuing the treasures of that type of music.


Get some old Johnny Cash, Hank Sr, Hank III, or Willie Nelson's "Red Headed Stranger" album.


Thanks for the tips - I'll certainly check them out smile I do have some Johnny Cash and have been lucky enough to see him live - a man I respect though, for some bizarre reason, I've never thought of him as country!
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Reply #50 posted 12/29/07 10:29pm

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laurarichardson said:

You guys kill me. Whenever Prince comes up with something different fans hate on it. "
"Rainbow Children and NEWS are great examples. Everybody on this board hated on these CD. Now a few years later they are the greatest CD he recorded.(LOL)

He does stuff that is commercial and he does stuff that is artistic. He has a good balance and some of you need to get off your high horse and stop acting like any music that is created for the masses is bad.

_____



purplepolitician said:

i wouldn't put it past him. shy had kind of a country feel to it. i doubt he'd do a whole album like this though. he's been kind of coasting since the rainbow children and NEWS. i hope he throws us a curveball soon but i don't think this is what i (or him, really) have in mind.

i didn't say they were bad. i'm one of the few people on this site that actually liked planet earth, musicology and to a very great extent, 3121. i just think that this is stuff he's done before. whereasthe rainbow children and NEWS were a little bit different, but not by any means better (or worse for that matter). i appreciate anything new p puts out as long as it's listenable.
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Reply #51 posted 12/30/07 5:13am

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Well, all music is basically just a combination of different elements: melody, harmony, rhythm, instrumentation etc. The way each parameter is altered and juxtaposed with the others is what makes it "country", "jazz", "R&B" or whatever.

Knowing this, I would say that every song Prince has ever written could actually be turned into a country song. No problem.

But would they all be GOOD country songs? Of course not. Many of them would have so few country ingredients to start with, that you would have to tweak all musical elements in such an extreme way that it wouldn't feel natural. But there are definitely some songs that would be quite easily adaptable.

Now, would Prince himself be the right person to do that? Probably not. Regardless of whether he would want to or not, I doubt that he actually masters all elements of country music, on the level that would be necessary.

See, I don't think Prince could make a stylistically convincing 100% all-country album; neither could he make such a jazz album, latin album or whatever. His command of the styles simply isn't THAT good. It works as long as he can take the elements he DOES know, and mix them up with other stuff he's comfortable with.

So if Prince were to wake up and say "I think I'm gonna record a country album today", my guess is that it would contain just as much rock, funk and R&B as it would contain "pure" country. Partly because that might be the way he likes it, and partly because that's the only way he's even able to do it.

To make a full-fledged country album (or jazz, for that matter) and be able to actually control all the necessary elements, stylistically, I'm afraid Prince would have to work with an outside producer and a team of specialized musicians. And I guess we all know that he would never do that...

Which is too bad, 'cause I can really hear it!
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Reply #52 posted 12/30/07 7:44am

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johnnyreeferseed said:

FlamingRaindrop said:


Was there a Hank 2? Did he have no talent or was he the black sheep of the family? You mention (i'm assuming) his dad and son, but no Hank 2 - Why the disrespect?? lol


Hank Jr is good too. Just not my style. I just prefer Hank Sr and Hank III rawer, rootsier sounds


How about Nickel Creek, and other "newgrass" artists...

You can find a lot of bands surfing youtube.
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Reply #53 posted 12/30/07 7:46am

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RealMusician said:



See, I don't think Prince could make a stylistically convincing 100% all-country album; neither could he make such a jazz album, latin album or whatever. His command of the styles simply isn't THAT good. It works as long as he can take the elements he DOES know, and mix them up with other stuff he's comfortable with.



It would not be a country album per se, it would be a "Prince" album, done "country-style," then (in at least some of its elements). Makes sense to me!
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Reply #54 posted 12/30/07 8:06am

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PeaceandLoveCowgirl said:

johnnyreeferseed said:



Hank Jr is good too. Just not my style. I just prefer Hank Sr and Hank III rawer, rootsier sounds


How about Nickel Creek, and other "newgrass" artists...

You can find a lot of bands surfing youtube.


Nickel Creek is a real good band. Have you heard the album Robert Plant did with Allison Krause? That's some killer shit right there.
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Reply #55 posted 12/31/07 1:50am

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johnnyreeferseed said:

PeaceandLoveCowgirl said:



How about Nickel Creek, and other "newgrass" artists...

You can find a lot of bands surfing youtube.


Nickel Creek is a real good band. Have you heard the album Robert Plant did with Allison Krause? That's some killer shit right there.
[Edited 12/30/07 8:06am]


Chris Thile's a hero of mine.

My bro was just telling me about the other - I'm going to go hear them right now!!
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Reply #56 posted 01/01/08 10:11pm

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johnnyreeferseed said:[quote]

deadonit said:

God I hope he NEVER makes a country album! That would suck and prove that he IS in fact a sellout just trying to please the masses like he did with rap in the early 90's. If he ever approached something like country he should do it with that "Lionel Richie down home Alabama vibe" but still keep that RNB sexiness you know what I mean? I CAN'T STAND about 95% of country music. Except for Lyle Lovett he's great because he is intelligent,eclectic (jazz,blues,gospel) and witty and just plain strange and unique (like Prince). I also like the country flavored albums of Ray Charles and Van Morrison, but thats about it. Maybe I'm ignorant but to me country music is some depressing and negative twangy annoying shit sung by a bunch of mullett wearing rednecks singing about racing,drinking,their car or truck,their dog, and woman cheating on them.
I will never listen to Prince again if he makes a straight up country album!


The music you're refering to is Cuntry not Country. There's a big difference Yes you're ignorant if you think country is "depressing and negative twangy annoying shit sung by a bunch of mullett wearing rednecks singing about racing,drinking,their car or truck,their dog, and woman cheating on them."

You obviously haven't hear Hank III's or David Alan Coe. Real Country music is about partying, fucking, drinking, snorting coke and smoking dope. Johnny Cash's "Cocaine Blues" and most of his music is staight up gangsta shit.
[Edited 12/28/07 15:55pm]
Oh thanks for clearing that up for me! I guess I'm not "hip" to that "straight up gangsta shit" you speak of. I guess we can't all be as "cool" as you!
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Reply #57 posted 01/01/08 10:15pm

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johnnyreeferseed said:

deadonit said:

God I hope he NEVER makes a country album! That would suck and prove that he IS in fact a sellout just trying to please the masses like he did with rap in the early 90's. If he ever approached something like country he should do it with that "Lionel Richie down home Alabama vibe" but still keep that RNB sexiness you know what I mean? I CAN'T STAND about 95% of country music. Except for Lyle Lovett he's great because he is intelligent,eclectic (jazz,blues,gospel) and witty and just plain strange and unique (like Prince). I also like the country flavored albums of Ray Charles and Van Morrison, but thats about it. Maybe I'm ignorant but to me country music is some depressing and negative twangy annoying shit sung by a bunch of mullett wearing rednecks singing about racing,drinking,their car or truck,their dog, and woman cheating on them.
I will never listen to Prince again if he makes a straight up country album!


The music you're refering to is Cuntry not Country. There's a big difference Yes you're ignorant if you think country is "depressing and negative twangy annoying shit sung by a bunch of mullett wearing rednecks singing about racing,drinking,their car or truck,their dog, and woman cheating on them."

You obviously haven't hear Hank III's or David Alan Coe. Real Country music is about partying, fucking, drinking, snorting coke and smoking dope. Johnny Cash's "Cocaine Blues" and most of his music is staight up gangsta shit.
[Edited 12/28/07 15:55pm]
Wow that sounds "cool" and they sound like real winners...NOT!
Thank you I officially hate country music even more!
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Reply #58 posted 01/01/08 10:49pm

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Wow, 2 dip-shit replies in a row - you're on a roll, dingleberry... wink
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deadonit said:

Oh thanks for clearing that up for me! I guess I'm not "hip" to that "straight up gangsta shit" you speak of. I guess we can't all be as "cool" as you!


No problem. Anytime.
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