Cyra said:

I just want to say to you Cyra, what about the world music awards where Prince Albert was concerned over the guy on his lap and he was asked to stop bopping kid up and down on his lap and rubbing the kid and didn't. I thought he might have been a bit of a Peter Pan type that parents of kids were trying to milk him for cash and I gave him the benefit of the doubt a wee bit until I saw that footage,when you watch that you can't say he's NOT a perv ma dear.
[Edited 12/16/07 12:48pm]

@ The title of this thread. Oh man, talk about wishful thinking.
[Edited 12/16/07 12:49pm]

SunsetDriver said:

Oh, I see.....

Cyra said:

I agree....

The Ignorance mentality of some Prince fans here is really bewildering and shocking.

and they dare to say that Mj is no songwriter and all his songs and videos are the same? God, you guys are on crack to say these things , stop downplay Mj's legacy like he is a talentless puppet...everyone knows what Mj brought the table , what some of you say is worthless and unimporant,

and when you guys have nothing to say about Mj you bring the child molestation charges? I mean....Get over it its getting old and its boring....

Cyra said:

Well when it comes to Michael Jackson, intelligence and common sense are things that seem to go out with window with Prince fans (and with most people in general actually).
[Edited 12/16/07 15:38pm]

seeingvoices12 said:

Oh come on SeeingVoices, as a fellow MJ fan don't you know that MJ IS in fact a talentless puppet who can't sing, dance, perform or write songs? It's time that us MJ fans finally face the facts that he only got where he did because of Quincy Jones .

Cinnamon234 said:

Cinnamon

Don't forget also that all his songs and videos are the same

DANGEROUSx said:

This is painful, and dangerous:disbelief:--WE"RE TALKING ABOUT KIDS!!! KIDS!!! So at least allow me this:

AN-ALL-TOO-TYPICAL-EVERYDAY SENARIO:

A little girl goes to her mother and confesses that her live-in boyfriend has been playing HOUSE with her. The little girl is already afraid but tells her mother that he has been TOUCHING her and doing things...The mother REFUSES to believe her...WHY? She needs her MAN! And she's not willing to sacrafice the relationship for the WELL-BEING of her own child...

In trying to PROVE to you MJ's GUILT I am up against a MENTALITY that is almost the same as a mother who doesn't want the painful truth. It's too inconvenient...People would rather SACRAFICE JUSTICE for these kids than to give up being ENTERTAINMENT by MJ. That's more important than JUSTICE.

PanicAttack said:

What your talking about? seriously, Have you followed MJ's case by reading court transcripts or watching it On Tv?

i think Michael is desperate and Prince showed him what can be done.
true, Prince is the teacher and it amazes me when i think about the
so-called "competition" between these 2 all the years.

what it comes down 2, and Michael needs to get hip 2 this, is that
in these days, you either reveal your art as in sing, play and dance,
coz the persona thang just doesn't work on its own.

DANGEROUSx said:

This is painful, and dangerous. --WE"RE TALKING ABOUT KIDS!!! KIDS!!! So at least allow me this:

AN-ALL-TOO-TYPICAL-EVERYDAY SENARIO:

A little girl goes to her mother and confesses that her live-in boyfriend has been playing HOUSE with her. The little girl is already afraid but tells her mother that he has been TOUCHING her and doing things...The mother REFUSES to believe her...WHY? She needs her MAN! And she's not willing to sacrafice the relationship for the WELL-BEING of her own child...

Conclusion

In trying to PROVE to you MJ's GUILT I am up against a MENTALITY that is almost the same as that of a mother who doesn't want the painful TRUTH about her BOYFRIEND. It's too inconvenient...People would rather SACRAFICE JUSTICE for these kids than to give up being ENTERTAINMED by MJ. That's more important than JUSTICE.

If people feel that the TRUTH costs too much onto themselves then nothing is SACRED and the INNOCENT INCLUDING KIDS will be THROWN TO THE WOLVES!

PanicAttack said:

Honestly.....U cannot be basing your comments on FACTS.

Graycap23 said:

Plase refer to REPLY #70 instead...There are additional comments and grammical corrections...

seeingvoices12 said:

Plase refer to REPLY #70 instead...There are additional comments and grammical corrections...

PanicAttack, you aren't proving JACK. Where is your evidence? All I see you doing is wailing about child molestation.

Yes, it's a horrible thing. Now remind me what MJ has to do with it, again? So far I haven't seen anything but wild, nonsensical rants and accusations.

I dare you to prove that he has had sexual interaction with a minor. Go for it.

PanicAttack said:

Your posts make absolutely no sense.

You just used a hypothetical example as "evidence". That shit doesn't fly.

Look, at the end of the day - the case has already been tried in court. He was found not guilty.

Give it a rest.

Cyra said:

GreenLeaves said:

GreenLeaves, watch your LANUGAGE. You can get your point across without the swearing. NOTICE, if you will, how I can get my point across CLEARLY without doing so.

Now, GreenLeaves & Cyre...There are approximately 3 MAJOR REASONS that nothing I say can get through to you:

FIRST
Your EMOTIONAL INVESTMENT in MJ is too DEEP to WARRANT a FAIR consideration of OPPOSING VIEW POINTS. Regardless of how strong an OPPOSING ARGUEMNT is--YOU WILL NOT GET!

SECOND
You DON"T WANT TO GET IT! You hear and see only that which you want. I have no EMOTIONAL INVESTMENT into MJ which is why I can see him more OBJECTIVELY than either one of you.

THIRD
That JURY that let MJ off ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM THE SAME FLAWS (BECOMING STAR-STRUCK & ALLOWING THIS TO INFLUENCE THE VERDICT) THAT ARE NOW AFFECTING YOUR POOR SENSE OF JUDGEMENT IN THIS AREA. MANY OF THE JURY ARE DEVOUT FANS WHO HAVE HIS RECORDS TOO!!!!

Because all of you have WILLINGLY put on BLINDERS in regards to Mr. Jackson's questionable virtue, whby go any further? YOU'RE NOT SENSIBLE! Besides, anybody in Law enforcement--especially in the FBI's CRIMINAL PROFILING UNIT-- could tell you that MJ EXHIBITS all of the BEHAVIORAL CHARACTERISTS of a PEDOPHILE. That type of HONESTY is more than you can take.

CURIOUS:
Not that I'm interested in stiffling anyone's freedom of speech, but why are you guys on here anyway downgrading Prince fans when this site is aSTOMPING GROUNDS FOR HIS FANS? You guys are obviously hardcore MJ fans...Why are you here arguing with us anyway?

PanicAttack said:

I don't have to watch shit. The individuals who run the board apparently allow profanity - and I like profanity. So I use it - often.

You still haven't gotten any point across, either. Again, hypothetical examples and concrete evidence aren't the same thing. None of what you've said (including bitching about preferential treatment) would stand in a court of law and result in a guilty verdict. At this point you're just ranting nonsensically.

And like I said before, this is a case that is over and done with anyway.

Michael Jackson needs to be pushed in front of a FIRING SQUAD and SHOT...Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang!!! One less CREEP that some poor kid has to worry about.

I'm sorry. Didn't mean to get you upset.

PanicAttack said:

You aren't entirely sane, are you?

Still waiting for you to provide this proof you keep ranting that you have.

GreenLeaves said:

What GOOD would it do for somebody WHO'S NOT SENSIBLE? You're in DENIAL! DENIAL! Just like those women who allow LIVE-IN BOYFRIENDS to MOLEST THEIR KIDS! DENIAL!

Michael Jackson's HEAD is ALL MESSED UP!

PanicAttack said:

PanicAttack said:

I understand what you're saying. I believe Michael is sexually attracted to little boys, (although whether he's actually fondled any of them I don't know). Now, despite that, I still love his voice and enjoy his music. Does that make me morally bankrupt? If you found out the guy who designed The Statue Of Liberty was a criminal, would you tear down the statue? If it turned out Shakespeare was a mass murderer would you burn all his plays? Personally I'm able to enjoy the work without worrying about the character of the artist. Obviously, as a Prince fan, I've been doing that for a long time.

'Ey guys,
I MYSELF have been feeling a rant building up, lately.
It hasn't reached the point of CRITICAL MASS yet,
but it could happen any day now.
And when it does, I figger it'll probably happen in THIS thread. Or in the "Eeew, isn't he gay?" thread. Or maybe "Who's Prince's NEXT Wife".
Whichever thread IT happens in, I just wanted to give YOU guys the HEADS UP that it's COMING.



....U FUCKERS.

PanicAttack said:

I agree, but WOW, that read like your name....

Illustrator said:

It's really sad and disheartening that all of you MJ haters diss on him so hard. It's funny because you can go to ANY of MJ fansites, and you won't see the disrespect and dissing on Prince that you see here.That just goes to show who has the more mature fan base (and it aint Prince).
Take that to the bank!
and to all you MJ fans here, I apologize if any of this is offensive, but it has to be said. Somebody here is sticking up for you, Mike!

kenlacam said:

You know what the difference is? We all, and I mean most of the world, used to be Michael Jackson fans on some level. Then, he let us down big time. He let his persona and personal life overshadow his art. It makes him an easy target.

For the most part. Prince hasn't done that. Basically, when it's time to take it to the stage--Prince delivers time and time again. MJ is a shell of his former self--and I don't mean just looks wise, I mean his artistry.

I'm still an MJ fan, but it's been very disappointing for while now. That's all.
[Edited 12/17/07 12:41pm]

PanicAttack said:

Thats a bit pretentious, to assume I have an emotional investment in MJ, much less one that "affects my poor sense of judgment". And that alone is rich, coming from someone who makes no sense, and can't back up their nonsensical claims with any real evidence.

Even if you did posses a logical thought process, it's all baseless conjecture. The way I see it, you're the one with "something affecting their poor sense of judgement".

I choose to believe MJ is innocent due to the indisputable fact that

A) He was acquitted of all 10 charges
B) There is NO solid evidence to suggest he is guilty
D) People have falsely attacked his child-like tendencies to get money out of him before (see the trial from the 90s. There is proof, audio of the prosecuting family itself, that it was a scam)
C) My judge of his character is that he just is not a child predator. Period. He is eccentric and has child-like tendencies; a delayed maturity, like peter pan syndrome. Not to mention a genuine love for children. I don't think he has it in him to harm a child. That is my take on his character, and my belief.


Thats my opinion, the facts support it, and I am sticking with it. Regardless of my beliefs or "emotional investment", there is no hard evidence to suggest he is a child molester. There just isn't, and I still have yet to see you prove otherwise.

(PROTIP: Putting WORDS IN BOLD makes your arguements VALID and SUPERIOR)



Oh, and to answer your question. I'm here because: SUPRISE! I'm a Prince fan.

AND a Michael Jackson fan. Fancy that
[Edited 12/17/07 14:12pm]

PanicAttack said:

So, in other words - you have no proof.