DevotedPuppy said: You know, during that "My Night at the Grammy's" show, I noticed no less than three---3!---different commercials featuring Mary. (iPod, Chevy?, and I think the third one was for Target ). I thought: 1. Mary must have a new album coming out. 2. Her manager/agent is working their ass off. 3. As much as I like Mary, I was secretly glad you-know-who doesn't do commercials (was not a fan of the Verizon one), while at the same time I wistfully wondered what it would be like to be a fan of someone who actually uses their image to promote themselves (instead of trying to eradicate all traces of it). 4. Could I pull off a similiar hair cut? . [Edited 12/3/07 20:49pm] LOL!! I swear by "shear" coincidence, I've got that same cut! My hair stylist talked me into it 2 days before I saw that video! I couldn't do the platinum blonde though, only Mary and a select few "sistas" can pull that off correctly. I do have "honey blond" streaks, however! | |
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What is this shit doin on a prince forum? Q what is that shite doing in a music forum? Utter shite tripe hiped hopedy rap edeh RnB shmuck shite. enough said Gentlemen lets broaden our minds LAURENCE! | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: cream72 said: What Truth, when prince releases an Album I go out and buy i dont worry how many copies it sells as long as it joins my Collection. Like I said thats Princes Buisness how many $$$$ he makes or where it charts not mine, if he dont care about charts why should we oh and i am not hating Mary J I just dont Dig her Music. That's good for you! So that means that this topic wasn't meant for you! So why are you all up in it defending Prince??? My comments were directed at him personally...unless your real name is Prince...I wasn't talking to you...so why are you up in my business? Oh wait...that's the right to free speech that Prince is fighting against...isn't it? Preach that stuff! .. ppl are taking stuff personal like you said it to them... and u did nothing to them .. and next thing they'll be justifying their 'adjectives' @ u | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: Anji said: Prince isn't responsible for how you feel.
YOU are responsible for how you feel. Do you agree? No, Anji! I don't! His actions are responsible for the way that I feel. Sure, I could look past them...again...but personally, I'm sick and tired of doing that! Prince is responsible for his actions, however, he is not responsible for how you feel about them. You, and only you, are responsible for how you feel about them. The fact that you yourself see someone else as responsible for your feelings speaks volumes as to why you feel so downtrodden and betrayed and seemingly unable to make yourself feel better. The moment you give someone else the power to be responsible for your feelings is the moment you lose any control over how you feel. And that lack of control over how you feel would make sense given how you are spilling over in this forum. Like I said, it just ain't healthy. | |
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I'll illustrate what I'm saying, admittedly in a rather laboured way, but still...
Prince's recent actions: (X, Y, Z...whatever they are) Your interpretation of Prince's actions: ("He's saying F.U. to me") Your feelings: betrayed, hurt, angry etc Your behaviour: spilling over on an internet forum at every available opportunity calling Prince out Someone else, however, may have a different interpretation of Prince's recent actions, such as: "well, it's his thing, let him do what he wants" OR "this may benefit me in the long run as an artist" OR "I like that he's stirring it up again". As a result, their feelings may be more like: ambivalence, hope, excitement etc. So, you see, it's not Prince's actions per se which are causing you to feel how you are but rather your interpretation of his actions. And you, not Prince, are responsible for how you interpret his actions. It is entirely possible you may put a different spin on it if you choose to look at the possibility of a different perspective. When you buy into a different interpretation it will likely cause your feelings to change. You are making yourself feel how you are based on your interpretation. Now, it is my belief that you believe your interpretation is 'the truth'. But have you ever considered that your interpretation may be incorrect? Or that there may be other ways of looking at this same situation that do no equate to Prince saying F.U.? What else might he be trying to say rather than F.U.? | |
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Anji said: I'll illustrate what I'm saying, admittedly in a rather laboured way, but still...
Prince's recent actions: (X, Y, Z...whatever they are) Your interpretation of Prince's actions: ("He's saying F.U. to me") Your feelings: betrayed, hurt, angry etc Your behaviour: spilling over on an internet forum at every available opportunity calling Prince out Someone else, however, may have a different interpretation of Prince's recent actions, such as: "well, it's his thing, let him do what he wants" OR "this may benefit me in the long run as an artist" OR "I like that he's stirring it up again". As a result, their feelings may be more like: ambivalence, hope, excitement etc. So, you see, it's not Prince's actions per se which are causing you to feel how you are but rather your interpretation of his actions. And you, not Prince, are responsible for how you interpret his actions. It is entirely possible you may put a different spin on it if you choose to look at the possibility of a different perspective. When you buy into a different interpretation it will likely cause your feelings to change. You are making yourself feel how you are based on your interpretation. Now, it is my belief that you believe your interpretation is 'the truth'. But have you ever considered that your interpretation may be incorrect? Or that there may be other ways of looking at this same situation that do no equate to Prince saying F.U.? What else might he be trying to say rather than F.U.? Anji, my feelings are just fine. Whether you agree or not, my venting is actually a lot better therapeutically speaking than keeping anger and frustration bottled up inside. I really don't have the time nor the desire to play guessing games on Prince's motivations. All I can go on, is what I see and what I've seen lately does equate to F.U. FANS in my eyes. So until Prince shows me otherwise, I'll continue to call him out any time I feel the desire to do so. You or anybody else can feel free to call me out on that, if you so desire. Just don't try to stifle me. [Edited 12/4/07 7:41am] | |
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"What I've seen lately does equate to F.U. FANS in my eyes". And there you have it. The fact that you cannot contemplate that there are other ways of looking at the situation suggests to me that you will continue to get riled up and vent ad nauseum. If you find that's therapeutically beneficial, you go girl. No one's suggesting to keep your feelings bottled up inside. Just that there may be another way to view the situation if you took a single moment to step away from the idea that your view is the truth and nothing but the truth. Either way, you are responsible for how you feel; no one else. | |
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Anji said: "What I've seen lately does equate to F.U. FANS in my eyes". And there you have it. The fact that you cannot contemplate that there are other ways of looking at the situation suggests to me that you will continue to get riled up and vent ad nauseum. If you find that's therapeutically beneficial, you go girl. No one's suggesting to keep your feelings bottled up inside. Just that there may be another way to view the situation if you took a single moment to step away from the idea that your view is the truth and nothing but the truth. Either way, you are responsible for how you feel; no one else.
Anji, I could look at it a million different ways, that doesn't mean any of them would be the "truth and nothing but the truth". Only Prince knows...well at least I hope he knows what that is. However, he's not talking...only offering "Diss" songs and threats through Web Sheriff. So I'm not gonna waste my energy trying to... 1. Guess what his motivations are. 2. Understand the meaning of his motivation based on my guesses. When and if he ever decides to set the record straight, I'll be more than happy to listen until then...I can only base my opinion and how I feel about him and these current circumstances on his actions but I will accept full responsibility for my getting riled up and venting ad nauseam because I'm just like that sometimes. | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: Anji said: I have no qualm with you holding onto the valuable lessons you've learned. I am, however, questioning the idea that you're holding it against the teacher if, and I stress, IF the teacher's lessons plans have indeed changed. That's Prince's right to change (or not), as it is yours to change (or not) but it seems entirely foolhardy to hold someone else, namely Prince, accountable for the decisions you've made in your life. You used the analogy of being a stakeholder in the company. It was your choice to be the stakeholder. No one forced you. If you're stressed at anyone, be stressed at you. You're responsible for running your own ship and if, as you say, you're getting stressed with P's BS, then you (and only you) are resonsible for holding onto that stress (not Prince). Do yourself a favour and relieve yourself of that stress. Might I suggest listening to If A Girl Answers (Don't Hang Up) and trying to dance to the beat. It'll make you laugh.
Thanks Anji! I love you, too! However, it is high time someone TRULY stands up to Mr. Nelson! Nearly 30 years is a long time for getting away with being a spoiled brat! It is!!!!! I accept full responsibility for creating the monster that Prince has become as I would for a spoiled child that I inadvertently set loose on the world. For all intent and purposes, WE (his hardcore fans) created the persona known as Prince!!! WE DID!!! When the essential tangibles are calculated...they were provided US (his hardcore fans) for 25 out of 29 of Prince's career years! That ain't fiction!!! I don't care how it's spent!! I'm sorry!! What I feel IS unpleasant, unsettling and unnerving!! No one understands that better than I...because NO ONE on this planet for nearly 30 years could have made me feel the way that I do right now about Prince except for Prince...HIMSELF!!! I didn't just wake up one day, a couple of months ago, after 29 years of KNOWING better and decide that Prince is a twit, on my own!! I didn't!! HE made that happen!! Why on God's green Earth?? I swear I don't know but I do know that I HAVE to play the cards that I'm dealt! Even if I don't like the hand of those cards, one little bit!! I've just got to! So...I'll keep speaking from truly what's in my heart and I will not expect any less from others and we will ALL see what happens! Ok? Im sorry your Sad, Prince will carry on regardless of weather you or anyone likes it im telling you, you need proffesional help if you feel like that you act if prince is related to you or you can mend his ways. Prince is not a Child so stop trying to punish him as if hes your responsibility. | |
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cream72 said: SexyBeautifulOne said: Thanks Anji! I love you, too! However, it is high time someone TRULY stands up to Mr. Nelson! Nearly 30 years is a long time for getting away with being a spoiled brat! It is!!!!! I accept full responsibility for creating the monster that Prince has become as I would for a spoiled child that I inadvertently set loose on the world. For all intent and purposes, WE (his hardcore fans) created the persona known as Prince!!! WE DID!!! When the essential tangibles are calculated...they were provided US (his hardcore fans) for 25 out of 29 of Prince's career years! That ain't fiction!!! I don't care how it's spent!! I'm sorry!! What I feel IS unpleasant, unsettling and unnerving!! No one understands that better than I...because NO ONE on this planet for nearly 30 years could have made me feel the way that I do right now about Prince except for Prince...HIMSELF!!! I didn't just wake up one day, a couple of months ago, after 29 years of KNOWING better and decide that Prince is a twit, on my own!! I didn't!! HE made that happen!! Why on God's green Earth?? I swear I don't know but I do know that I HAVE to play the cards that I'm dealt! Even if I don't like the hand of those cards, one little bit!! I've just got to! So...I'll keep speaking from truly what's in my heart and I will not expect any less from others and we will ALL see what happens! Ok? Im sorry your Sad, Prince will carry on regardless of weather you or anyone likes it im telling you, you need proffesional help if you feel like that you act if prince is related to you or you can mend his ways. Prince is not a Child so stop trying to punish him as if hes your responsibility. I'm sorry that how I feel about Prince concerns you! Perhaps you should seek professional help. You act as if Prince is related to you or you have to defend him. Prince is not a child so stop trying to protect him as if he's your responsibility! | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: cream72 said: Im sorry your Sad, Prince will carry on regardless of weather you or anyone likes it im telling you, you need proffesional help if you feel like that you act if prince is related to you or you can mend his ways. Prince is not a Child so stop trying to punish him as if hes your responsibility. I'm sorry that how I feel about Prince concerns you! Perhaps you should seek professional help. You act as if Prince is related to you or you have to defend him. Prince is not a child so stop trying to protect him as if he's your responsibility! If he was still like this you could have spanked him. Now he's to old for that. | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: cream72 said: Your posts are becoming tiresome, get over it if Prince doesnt want items of his on the Internet thats his Buisness.
And Mary J Yeah I know...the truth hurts! Simple fix though...stop reading them! People just can't resist the irresistible That song is hot! Is Mary comin out with a new CD?! [Edited 12/4/07 12:26pm] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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cream72 said: SexyBeautifulOne said: Yeah I know...the truth hurts! Simple fix though...stop reading them! Don't take it out on Mary however...her new CD is the shit...and that will be proven by the sales on Dec. 18th. Ask Prince about his latest sales! [Edited 12/3/07 14:58pm] What Truth, when prince releases an Album I go out and buy i dont worry how many copies it sells as long as it joins my Collection. Like I said thats Princes Buisness how many $$$$ he makes or where it charts not mine, if he dont care about charts why should we oh and i am not hating Mary J I just dont Dig her Music. Prince cares about charting Remember how he hooked Eve into the Greatest Romance to make it a "big seller"? 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: SexyBeautifulOne said: Yeah I know...the truth hurts! Simple fix though...stop reading them! People just can't resist the irresistible That song is [b]hot![b] Is Mary comin out with a new CD?! Damn skippy, you Irresistible Bitch! Yeah, Mary's cd drops in the States on the 18th, I'm not sure about world wide though but it should. If you can't get it, Orgnote me an address to ship it to and I'll send you one. | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: People just can't resist the irresistible That song is [b]hot![b] Is Mary comin out with a new CD?! Damn skippy, you Irresistible Bitch! Yeah, Mary's cd drops in the States on the 18th, I'm not sure about world wide though but it should. If you can't get it, Orgnote me an address to ship it to and I'll send you one. Oh, thanks to internet word of mouth, I'll be pickin up a copy myself! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: SexyBeautifulOne said: Damn skippy, you Irresistible Bitch! Yeah, Mary's cd drops in the States on the 18th, I'm not sure about world wide though but it should. If you can't get it, Orgnote me an address to ship it to and I'll send you one. Oh, thanks to internet word of mouth, I'll be pickin up a copy myself! Ain't it just grand? | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Oh, thanks to internet word of mouth, I'll be pickin up a copy myself! Ain't it just grand? It sure is I for one will never tire of your tireless ways when it comes to justice 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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