This is actually Phase II of the Prince media plan. He always has tried to control what people say about him (I would love to see the clause he makes the people around him sign, notice his former "friends" can't say anything bad about him).

Phase I - Prince, a now devout Jehova's witness, is about to get sued for divorce by his 2nd wife (something that is not supposed to happen to an JW!), so she shuts down his website and Myspace page presumably so that people can not talk about it, devulge details or point out the inevitable hypocracy that will rise from his continuing love life (do you really think he is celebate now???)

Phase II - Now that you have cut off the discussion from your own sites, you have noticed that the rampant leaks and photos and opinions are alive and well on the fan sites. Exposing things that you would rather not have exposed. Solution? Shut them down too!

Here is the problem. You can't control the free discussion of ideas about you and your life. Free speech will eventually win out. Now, he can stop the use of copyrighted materials...big deal. If he is seen leaving a hotel with a hot young chick who he is not married to, people are going to talk about it, blog about it, post about it. You can't control that. Just like the newspapers can write any article they want about you (as long as they don't infringe), so can web fans.

You can't control what people say about you Prince. So why not take your own advice:

"Stop worryin' about what people say
When it ain't gonna stop them anyway"

- Love from the album 3121
Released March 21, 2006
Recorded 2005
Genre R&B/Funk/Rock/Experimental
Length 53:42
Label NPG
Universal
Producer Prince


There, I gave full credit

"-"

What P*in*e ( Rhymes with mince, male inline to the throne anagram of cripen ) needs to realise is that people will always try to get his stuff, no matter what means they have to go to get it. I mean, does any1 know a P*in*e fan without a "live album"? Anything that's official, fair enough, if u can get a sneaky download in advance somewhere, ur gonna do it, but ur still going to buy the official release just to have yo collection complete, and that's even true for the cr*p like planet earth and the rainbow children.

Pr*n*e, i like u, but please, don't f*ck with me, i'll kick yo ass, really.


P.S...I made a page on bebo, used his image etc etc, i will hurt myself laughing if he sends me a letter to sue me. infact, i'll post it on the bebo page, lmao!

I've been a Prince fan for nearly four years, and have collected 90% of what he's officially released. That being said, I've lost a great deal of respect for the man over this latest fiasco. I agree that bootleggers should be removed ASAP, but that still doesn't give him the right to sue his fans (keyword here being fans) over wearing a Prince t-shirt, or god forbid, playing a Prince song in a personal video. That's just stepping way beyond what any musical artist should be allowed to censor.

I'm still a Prince fan, and will continue to be, but I've still lost respect for Prince, and that will probably never change. The music is still good, but the man is an total a**.

NDRU said:

Yeah and now u have to join a coalition to reserve the right to be a P fan? U gotta fight for ur right.... Oh lawd!

mano said:

I don't think Mayte has a confidential agreement because she has said some -stuff-so I wonder if they expire.

is there any status on this situation? did I miss a memo? what's going on now?

Yeah, all this time and no updates. But it's not surprising, since Prince's people + lawyers are so hard to deal with. Prince (the person) gives humanity a very bad name. It's disappointing that he's so controlled by the "corporate mindset" and cares more about money than what a small group of hardcore fans want to do. But what can you say? That's one of the reasons you never want to get to know your heroes, because they always disappoint you, like when Prince said meeting Joni Mitchell disappointed him. Life goes on.

lspear76 said:

well...even that would be an update...
I WANT A FREAKIN update prince.org! even if it's "we're still in negotiations" something....PLEASE!

Shorty said:

hmm.....water rushin' crickets chirpin'...ZZZZ
interesting....VERY interesting....

Also looking for an update. princefansunited.com is down, and princefamsunited.com redirects to 3121.com.

?????

Truth be told, all these "heroes" of ours are just people like you and I...they can be a-holes just like the rest of us. We prop them up like they're somehow better and should act on a higher plain than the rest of us--but they're not. We all give someone the finger on the highway when we get cut off, all our shit smells and none of us treat our mama's as good as we should, not one of us, and get off your high horse if you think you do.
That said, some artists-Prince and Joni Mitchell included- have produced some great works of art and should be respected for that, but to expect perfection or common sense or even a fair hand when dealing with the public is about as realistic as waiting for world peace.
All you have to do is ask yourself what you'd do in any public situation. If you're honest, you'd fuck up every so often. Not as much as Mike Tyson, but more than Mother Theresa.
Peace...and go visit your mama dammit, she'd really enjoy that, even Mike Tyson's mom.

"Eye" can't hate u b-cause, "eye" love u!

I dont blame Prince...

"The Org" as been going downhill for years and now its just polluted with non-fan freaks posting the most bizarre crap UNDER HIS NAME of a Board! I bet he is worried some freak with bring up killing someone UNDER Prince.org.

YOU can the NON-Fans by what they only post on, The topics then only post on & MOSTLY The TOPICS they VIEW! Some Non-Prince Topics have 5,000 VIEWS? It's like a mental patient/unstable freak almost over the edge if someone posts on their freak topics.

5,000 VIEWS To a Topic =


This Board is pretty odd and it has gotten to the point where I barely even check this board for even news, lets forget signing in and posting.


I don't blame Prince at all!!! Would YOU want YOUR Name as the Unbrella to this crap?????

Good For You Prince!

[Edited 12/18/07 6:29am]

I have been a supporter and defender in some cases of Prince's music for 23 years and i feel all aspects of his life played out through his music has lead us all on a journey! I remember on the way back from one of my gold experience tour gigs being questioned by someone who stated that prince should be playing all his well known hits instead of new unreleased album material! I was aware that the dispute with warner bros (now resolved) was for a reason and a major music industry shake up scenario and some of those concerts i have to say were the best i have ever seen Prince's quirkiness and unique behaviour have kept interest from fans and general public for years Even now when it seemed charts and reality show manipulation it is apparant that Prince has pulled out a publicity and commercial masterstroke with his 21 date residency at the o2 followed by the controversial to some PFU thing which i saw coming after the what i personally thought was justified posting about photos and mobile phone / camera use at the gigs on relevant forums! I respect free speech and love the interaction forums create which can be good or bad because let's face it everyone has there own opinion and if we all agreed there would be no room for debate! I have read the different possible reasons for the PFU situation but feel good that prince has acknowledged the relevant forums and entered into debate about use of copyright which is eh.....his images....his photos...his music which he shares or rents out in some cases (his own words)! At the end of the day i am into his music and have listened to all his music albeit at times i have been a bit blinkered but find hard to criticise someone who has revolutionised the face of music through the internet and record buying public! It is prince who lead the way and championed a lot of things people take for granted like downloading and the free cd's! He has looked after his fans all the way and he can't please everyone. Nobody is perfect even prince although some of those guitar solo's make you wonder What do i know?

ElectricBlue said:

I think the opposite of true. When I read Prince's "official" board at NPGMC I was scared out of my mind. Puppet posters only saying what Prince approved of. Is anyone is likely to end up hurting a star, it's those that listen to his every damn wish. The rest of us have our own opinions and don't like being told what to do. Prince's "crazy" fans, like every member of the NPGMC, is the scary part of the fanbase. Not the posters here.

lspear76 said:

I always thought the whole orgers v. npgmcers stuff was stupid. There are scary fans, pro and con, on every prince-related website. Goes with the territory. Anyone spending time on trying to figure out who his "real fans" are just needs to turn off their computer for a year a two.

imho

Here are the chords to the song, in case you feel the need to jam:

Key = Bb

Verse is in Bb

The little descending run part are the chords C# - C - B - Bb

And then the last part before going back to the verse is an F chord.

Rock on, people.

ElCapitan said:

I just believe that Prince invites more fanatics by trying to enforce such rules within his own website. You know the ones who listen to anything and obey anything are most likely the more mentally unstable and those who would do anything to get close to Prince. That's why I think an unofficial fan site does the most to keep fans simply fans, while giving those fans a place to be who they really are and say what they really think, and it also gives Prince the opportunity to direct market his music (new and old) to the already easy to find fan base.

Simply put, I don't know why Prince cares so much about a so-called "official site" when anything he releases and we get news of... the money will go directly into his pocket anyway. It's just semantics. Prince should operate with independent fan sites only -- no server cost for him, no paying anybody to design a site. His fans do it for him and do it gladly.

That's why I think it was crazy for him to put up such a fuss years ago about "coming together as one site" and building a site for him. Because he already had it. He didn't have to spend any money on creating a site for his fans to find him... his fans loved his music so much, and what Prince stood for, that they already made sites. What a small price to pay for a dedicated, intelligent fan base and money in his pocket with little effort. Just have a representative from the Park send out emails and news to those fan sites announcing songs, albums, concerts and there you have it.

Maybe I just make too much sense.
[Edited 1/4/08 7:45am]
[Edited 1/4/08 7:47am]

lspear76 said:

If Prince wants to promote and sell his wares through his own site, far be it from me to give a shit. It's not like he's the only musician with a website. And if he doesn't want to be called an asshole on his own site, again wtf do I care? If that results in a bunch of fans who enjoy nothing better than heaping praise upon the latest prince endeavor, well good for them. His house, his rules, fine.

There's plenty of other places to call prince an asshole without fear of ze banhammer.

ElCapitan said:

Not if Prince had his way - to close down all fan sites and only have ONE official site for everything Prince. If that was the case, we'd have no place to discuss it now, since 3121 is "dead."

Looking forward to the next Prince Fans United UPDATE!!!!!



I hope Prince isn't pissing around and leaving us all dangling!!!!

darrenj said:

Still moving forward, albeit slowly.

A key meeting should be happening this week - more as it happens.

Thanks, it's good of you to inform us of that.

So what's the deal?
Are we allowed to post pictures or not?
Can we say Prince or do we have to use
or use another name like Symboldude or Purpledude?
[Edited 1/8/08 11:57am]

I think prince has been watching too much Harry Potter and thinks he is Lord Voldemort, i.e. "He Who Must Not Be Named" (for fear of being sued)

Gav said:

Thanks for the info. I'm going to send out a big one of these:

lspear76 said:

Unless Prince buys "the internet" that just won't happen. Anyway, last we heard the parties are still trying to work out a peaceful coexistence.
[Edited 1/10/08 20:06pm]

annastesia1 said:

As I said above, things are still being worked on.

I just seen a thing on You Tube about Planet earth a man made video written in CRAYON'S talking about what this stuff about fans united is simply a man with a crayon note pad making a video on You Tube talking about rights he has to do this it is not about fans united it is a man talking crazy with a note pad with crayon drawings quick go to you tube and see this and if this is not the person or persons behind fans unite then you will see first hand what Prince is saying about using a name that is not yours to use