independent and unofficial
Prince fan community site
Tue 7th Apr 2020 10:32am
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > I UNDERSTAND AND AGREE WITH YA PRINCE!!!
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 11/15/07 2:51pm

chiltonmusic

avatar

I UNDERSTAND AND AGREE WITH YA PRINCE!!!

You know I think I understand why Prince is suing for content and as much as I love the org I am on the side of Prince. Not to the extent that he is taking it but for the idea why!! Check this video out!

http://www.youtube.com/wa...wBXV1xLcY0

Now do you really want to see that bullshit with Prince music behind it? Like he says in the new song. He doesn't want you, me or anybody but him using his music or likeness to get their 15 minutes of fame! This is why he isn't letting us post the pics of him anyomre, as well as showing his videos and what not.

See one of the reasons we all like Prince is because he is so different than every other star. He doesn't completly whore himself out, you're not gonna see a Prince reality show. With Prince its either you enjoy and respect the music, his music, the way he writes and performs it or you can be out!!



So we won't get alot of bootlegged material on youtube or even this very site. We won't get to hear obscure cuts in a public form. BUT what you will get is great music, both old and new. You will get incredible live shows that have no equal on this Planet. And most importantly you will get an artist that gives a fuck about what the hell he has created. He wants you to get it but only if you can take the journey and if you can't, see ya!!

So that's my thoughts on this and yes I hear ya Prince and I agree with your point.
THE CARDINAL HAS SPOKEN!!!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 11/15/07 2:53pm

lspear76

avatar

chiltonmusic said:

You know I think I understand why Prince is suing for content and as much as I love the org I am on the side of Prince. Not to the extent that he is taking it but for the idea why!! Check this video out!

http://www.youtube.com/wa...wBXV1xLcY0

Now do you really want to see that bullshit with Prince music behind it? Like he says in the new song. He doesn't want you, me or anybody but him using his music or likeness to get their 15 minutes of fame! This is why he isn't letting us post the pics of him anyomre, as well as showing his videos and what not.

See one of the reasons we all like Prince is because he is so different than every other star. He doesn't completly whore himself out, you're not gonna see a Prince reality show. With Prince its either you enjoy and respect the music, his music, the way he writes and performs it or you can be out!!

Didn't Prince open for Rick James and The Rolling Stones? Isn't that using another entity to help yourself get famous?



So we won't get alot of bootlegged material on youtube or even this very site. We won't get to hear obscure cuts in a public form. BUT what you will get is great music, both old and new. You will get incredible live shows that have no equal on this Planet. And most importantly you will get an artist that gives a fuck about what the hell he has created. He wants you to get it but only if you can take the journey and if you can't, see ya!!

So that's my thoughts on this and yes I hear ya Prince and I agree with your point.
"Don't you think one of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties?"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 11/15/07 2:55pm

lspear76

avatar

chiltonmusic said:

You know I think I understand why Prince is suing for content and as much as I love the org I am on the side of Prince. Not to the extent that he is taking it but for the idea why!! Check this video out!

http://www.youtube.com/wa...wBXV1xLcY0

Now do you really want to see that bullshit with Prince music behind it? Like he says in the new song. He doesn't want you, me or anybody but him using his music or likeness to get their 15 minutes of fame! This is why he isn't letting us post the pics of him anyomre, as well as showing his videos and what not.

See one of the reasons we all like Prince is because he is so different than every other star. He doesn't completly whore himself out, you're not gonna see a Prince reality show. With Prince its either you enjoy and respect the music, his music, the way he writes and performs it or you can be out!!



So we won't get alot of bootlegged material on youtube or even this very site. We won't get to hear obscure cuts in a public form. BUT what you will get is great music, both old and new. You will get incredible live shows that have no equal on this Planet. And most importantly you will get an artist that gives a fuck about what the hell he has created. He wants you to get it but only if you can take the journey and if you can't, see ya!!

So that's my thoughts on this and yes I hear ya Prince and I agree with your point.


Didn't Prince open for Rick James and The Rolling Stones? Isn't that a way for someone to get famous, using someone else's position?
"Don't you think one of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties?"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 11/15/07 2:58pm

chiltonmusic

avatar

lspear76 said:

chiltonmusic said:

You know I think I understand why Prince is suing for content and as much as I love the org I am on the side of Prince. Not to the extent that he is taking it but for the idea why!! Check this video out!

http://www.youtube.com/wa...wBXV1xLcY0

Now do you really want to see that bullshit with Prince music behind it? Like he says in the new song. He doesn't want you, me or anybody but him using his music or likeness to get their 15 minutes of fame! This is why he isn't letting us post the pics of him anyomre, as well as showing his videos and what not.

See one of the reasons we all like Prince is because he is so different than every other star. He doesn't completly whore himself out, you're not gonna see a Prince reality show. With Prince its either you enjoy and respect the music, his music, the way he writes and performs it or you can be out!!



So we won't get alot of bootlegged material on youtube or even this very site. We won't get to hear obscure cuts in a public form. BUT what you will get is great music, both old and new. You will get incredible live shows that have no equal on this Planet. And most importantly you will get an artist that gives a fuck about what the hell he has created. He wants you to get it but only if you can take the journey and if you can't, see ya!!

So that's my thoughts on this and yes I hear ya Prince and I agree with your point.


Didn't Prince open for Rick James and The Rolling Stones? Isn't that a way for someone to get famous, using someone else's position?


Well that's completely different. He didn't open for them and then go out and play their music or worse still make a mockery of their music.

Also he had to get permission to do so. I mean he didn't just show up in Buffalo NY and start playing before Rick hit the stage. He had to sign contracts and get approval and all that good stuff!!

So while he was able to use other's fame for a spring board he didn't just rely on that. What some of these people do imho is use an artists work and bastardize it. Prince does'nt what that to happen to his music and for that I agree with him,
THE CARDINAL HAS SPOKEN!!!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 11/15/07 3:19pm

lspear76

avatar

chiltonmusic said:

lspear76 said:



Didn't Prince open for Rick James and The Rolling Stones? Isn't that a way for someone to get famous, using someone else's position?


Well that's completely different. He didn't open for them and then go out and play their music or worse still make a mockery of their music.

Also he had to get permission to do so. I mean he didn't just show up in Buffalo NY and start playing before Rick hit the stage. He had to sign contracts and get approval and all that good stuff!!

So while he was able to use other's fame for a spring board he didn't just rely on that. What some of these people do imho is use an artists work and bastardize it. Prince does'nt what that to happen to his music and for that I agree with him,


How can you bastardize bad songs like Future Baby Mama, Mr. Goodnight, etc, any more than they already are? If he doesn't want his music bastardized, he shouldn't release any. He should get a real job at McDonalds and find out what real work is.
"Don't you think one of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties?"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 11/15/07 3:25pm

roodboi

guess I'll have to stop singing "Lets Go Crazy" at karaoke nite...for fear of bastardizing of course....
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 11/15/07 3:27pm

cream72

lspear76 said:

chiltonmusic said:



Well that's completely different. He didn't open for them and then go out and play their music or worse still make a mockery of their music.

Also he had to get permission to do so. I mean he didn't just show up in Buffalo NY and start playing before Rick hit the stage. He had to sign contracts and get approval and all that good stuff!!

So while he was able to use other's fame for a spring board he didn't just rely on that. What some of these people do imho is use an artists work and bastardize it. Prince does'nt what that to happen to his music and for that I agree with him,


How can you bastardize bad songs like Future Baby Mama, Mr. Goodnight, etc, any more than they already are? If he doesn't want his music bastardized, he shouldn't release any. He should get a real job at McDonalds and find out what real work is.


So what your saying is what Prince does is not real Work, Could of fooled me or are you just sour cause hes Making more money than you.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 11/15/07 3:30pm

hv3121

--
[Edited 2/4/08 14:37pm]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 11/15/07 4:17pm

Anxiety

chiltonmusic said:

You know I think I understand why Prince is suing for content and as much as I love the org I am on the side of Prince. Not to the extent that he is taking it but for the idea why!! Check this video out!

http://www.youtube.com/wa...wBXV1xLcY0

Now do you really want to see that bullshit with Prince music behind it? Like he says in the new song. He doesn't want you, me or anybody but him using his music or likeness to get their 15 minutes of fame! This is why he isn't letting us post the pics of him anyomre, as well as showing his videos and what not.

See one of the reasons we all like Prince is because he is so different than every other star. He doesn't completly whore himself out, you're not gonna see a Prince reality show. With Prince its either you enjoy and respect the music, his music, the way he writes and performs it or you can be out!!



So we won't get alot of bootlegged material on youtube or even this very site. We won't get to hear obscure cuts in a public form. BUT what you will get is great music, both old and new. You will get incredible live shows that have no equal on this Planet. And most importantly you will get an artist that gives a fuck about what the hell he has created. He wants you to get it but only if you can take the journey and if you can't, see ya!!

So that's my thoughts on this and yes I hear ya Prince and I agree with your point.


so you think it's okay that if i ever have a party at my house, i have to take down all my prince posters and put away all my prince paraphernalia for fear of taking any pictures at said party, because if i ever shared them online i could be sued for having a musicology poster in the background?

that's where this is going, and i'm not gonna shed one polite little crocodile tear when some steadfast lil' fammy fam gets a cease and desist for posting a pic of their graffiti bridge bedroom mural.

once people realize this has the potential to be a bigger problem than "thou shalt not maketh the precious little baby prince child weep", maybe we can have a real conversation on this topic.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 11/15/07 4:32pm

roodboi

Anxiety said:

chiltonmusic said:

You know I think I understand why Prince is suing for content and as much as I love the org I am on the side of Prince. Not to the extent that he is taking it but for the idea why!! Check this video out!

http://www.youtube.com/wa...wBXV1xLcY0

Now do you really want to see that bullshit with Prince music behind it? Like he says in the new song. He doesn't want you, me or anybody but him using his music or likeness to get their 15 minutes of fame! This is why he isn't letting us post the pics of him anyomre, as well as showing his videos and what not.

See one of the reasons we all like Prince is because he is so different than every other star. He doesn't completly whore himself out, you're not gonna see a Prince reality show. With Prince its either you enjoy and respect the music, his music, the way he writes and performs it or you can be out!!



So we won't get alot of bootlegged material on youtube or even this very site. We won't get to hear obscure cuts in a public form. BUT what you will get is great music, both old and new. You will get incredible live shows that have no equal on this Planet. And most importantly you will get an artist that gives a fuck about what the hell he has created. He wants you to get it but only if you can take the journey and if you can't, see ya!!

So that's my thoughts on this and yes I hear ya Prince and I agree with your point.


so you think it's okay that if i ever have a party at my house, i have to take down all my prince posters and put away all my prince paraphernalia for fear of taking any pictures at said party, because if i ever shared them online i could be sued for having a musicology poster in the background?

that's where this is going, and i'm not gonna shed one polite little crocodile tear when some steadfast lil' fammy fam gets a cease and desist for posting a pic of their graffiti bridge bedroom mural.

once people realize this has the potential to be a bigger problem than "thou shalt not maketh the precious little baby prince child weep", maybe we can have a real conversation on this topic.



that pic of me in my three chains o' gold underwear is gonna come back to haunt me....disbelief
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 11/15/07 4:33pm

Flowerz

Prince n his camp trying to put the Org in the same boat as PirateBay is nonsense .. no one on this site has downloaded any videos from this site (which is the argument of the case).. and the Org is not making any money from the gallery... how do they explain the Org is making money here? jail time n compensation charges are being brought up here and it's nonsense
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 11/15/07 4:39pm

chiltonmusic

avatar

lspear76 said:

chiltonmusic said:



Well that's completely different. He didn't open for them and then go out and play their music or worse still make a mockery of their music.

Also he had to get permission to do so. I mean he didn't just show up in Buffalo NY and start playing before Rick hit the stage. He had to sign contracts and get approval and all that good stuff!!

So while he was able to use other's fame for a spring board he didn't just rely on that. What some of these people do imho is use an artists work and bastardize it. Prince does'nt what that to happen to his music and for that I agree with him,


How can you bastardize bad songs like Future Baby Mama, Mr. Goodnight, etc, any more than they already are? If he doesn't want his music bastardized, he shouldn't release any. He should get a real job at McDonalds and find out what real work is.


Well I LOVE both of those songs so I definetly disagree with you on that point. BUT regardless as to how you feel about the songs the artist has a right to see their work respected.

Believe it or not JK Rowling with the Harry Potter seris or Quentin Tarintino of film fame all have their work copywritten and protected. You could no more write a "legal" Harry Potter story than you should be able to create a non sanctioned Prince video. Put it this way how many people rework the "Mona Lisa"? How many people's re-workings are considered art? NONE.

This is fair and its real regardles of how you feel about said artwork.Whether you like it or not does not give you the right to desicrate it. Now you can simply not purchase the art because that is well within your right as a consumer but you don't get to desicrate it no matter how you feel about it.
THE CARDINAL HAS SPOKEN!!!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 11/15/07 4:48pm

chiltonmusic

avatar

Anxiety said:

chiltonmusic said:

You know I think I understand why Prince is suing for content and as much as I love the org I am on the side of Prince. Not to the extent that he is taking it but for the idea why!! Check this video out!

http://www.youtube.com/wa...wBXV1xLcY0

Now do you really want to see that bullshit with Prince music behind it? Like he says in the new song. He doesn't want you, me or anybody but him using his music or likeness to get their 15 minutes of fame! This is why he isn't letting us post the pics of him anyomre, as well as showing his videos and what not.

See one of the reasons we all like Prince is because he is so different than every other star. He doesn't completly whore himself out, you're not gonna see a Prince reality show. With Prince its either you enjoy and respect the music, his music, the way he writes and performs it or you can be out!!



So we won't get alot of bootlegged material on youtube or even this very site. We won't get to hear obscure cuts in a public form. BUT what you will get is great music, both old and new. You will get incredible live shows that have no equal on this Planet. And most importantly you will get an artist that gives a fuck about what the hell he has created. He wants you to get it but only if you can take the journey and if you can't, see ya!!

So that's my thoughts on this and yes I hear ya Prince and I agree with your point.


so you think it's okay that if i ever have a party at my house, i have to take down all my prince posters and put away all my prince paraphernalia for fear of taking any pictures at said party, because if i ever shared them online i could be sued for having a musicology poster in the background?

that's where this is going, and i'm not gonna shed one polite little crocodile tear when some steadfast lil' fammy fam gets a cease and desist for posting a pic of their graffiti bridge bedroom mural.

once people realize this has the potential to be a bigger problem than "thou shalt not maketh the precious little baby prince child weep", maybe we can have a real conversation on this topic.



Oh would please with the Gestapo stuff first of all you don't even believe that argument and if you did then you are being completely irrational.

There is a huge difference between having legally sanctioned posters, that you purchased legally hanging in your house. Than there is creating a youtube video which is used for the purpose of gaining internet fame. You know that and I know that regardless of how many crocodile tears you shed or otherwise.

Newsflash just because you own some Prince paraphanellia does not mean you own the rights to said paraphanellia. This isn't just a Prince thing. You can't create a "Star Wars" spoof with your Luke Skywalker doll with out George Lucas' consent.

So why should Prince be any different? Why is his art any less valuable and respected?
THE CARDINAL HAS SPOKEN!!!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 11/15/07 5:02pm

Anxiety

chiltonmusic said:

Anxiety said:



so you think it's okay that if i ever have a party at my house, i have to take down all my prince posters and put away all my prince paraphernalia for fear of taking any pictures at said party, because if i ever shared them online i could be sued for having a musicology poster in the background?

that's where this is going, and i'm not gonna shed one polite little crocodile tear when some steadfast lil' fammy fam gets a cease and desist for posting a pic of their graffiti bridge bedroom mural.

once people realize this has the potential to be a bigger problem than "thou shalt not maketh the precious little baby prince child weep", maybe we can have a real conversation on this topic.



Oh would please with the Gestapo stuff first of all you don't even believe that argument and if you did then you are being completely irrational.

There is a huge difference between having legally sanctioned posters, that you purchased legally hanging in your house. Than there is creating a youtube video which is used for the purpose of gaining internet fame. You know that and I know that regardless of how many crocodile tears you shed or otherwise.

Newsflash just because you own some Prince paraphanellia does not mean you own the rights to said paraphanellia. This isn't just a Prince thing. You can't create a "Star Wars" spoof with your Luke Skywalker doll with out George Lucas' consent.

So why should Prince be any different? Why is his art any less valuable and respected?


man, you're doing a fancy dance around my argument that could get you first prize in a cake walk! lol

"oh please with the gestapo stuff"? you're kidding, right?

if someone told me that prince would sue a family for posting a video of their baby dancing with one of his songs in the background, i would have laughed and said "c'mon, even PRINCE isn't THAT petty." guess what?

oh, and uh, OH YEAH: this very web site was ordered to take down over 3,500 images, including pics of prince-themed license plates and tattoos. how is a prince-themed license plate prince's intellectual property? that doesn't even make sense! but guess what? prince can afford to bully us a lot easier than we can afford to defend ourselves. if you think THAT is fair then yeah, you and i have some FUNDAMENTAL differences.

as for the usage of paraphernalia, i'm not even talking about repurposing a license product for my own means AND YOU KNOW THAT. i'm talking about INCIDENTAL placement of said paraphernalia. say i took a picture of me and my best friend and there's a damn tamborrocca hanging on the wall in the background. based on WHAT IS ALREADY HAPPENING, prince can get his thong all in a knot and sic his legal pit bulls on me for tarnishing his legacy with my horribly disrespectful photograph.

hell, prince should buy stock in photoshop because if this catches on and every artist takes his stance, we're all gonna be a nation of photo altering, litigation-rattled fools! woot!

i've been respecting that man's art for most of my life and all the money i've shelled out proves it. i'll be damned if i have to worry about hiding it so prince won't sue me.

but you know, i get where you're coming from - freedum iz an illusion, all luv 2 prince and b wild and all that, lolz
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 11/15/07 5:12pm

SquirrelMeat

avatar

chiltonmusic said:

Anxiety said:



so you think it's okay that if i ever have a party at my house, i have to take down all my prince posters and put away all my prince paraphernalia for fear of taking any pictures at said party, because if i ever shared them online i could be sued for having a musicology poster in the background?

that's where this is going, and i'm not gonna shed one polite little crocodile tear when some steadfast lil' fammy fam gets a cease and desist for posting a pic of their graffiti bridge bedroom mural.

once people realize this has the potential to be a bigger problem than "thou shalt not maketh the precious little baby prince child weep", maybe we can have a real conversation on this topic.



Oh would please with the Gestapo stuff first of all you don't even believe that argument and if you did then you are being completely irrational.

There is a huge difference between having legally sanctioned posters, that you purchased legally hanging in your house. Than there is creating a youtube video which is used for the purpose of gaining internet fame. You know that and I know that regardless of how many crocodile tears you shed or otherwise.

Newsflash just because you own some Prince paraphanellia does not mean you own the rights to said paraphanellia. This isn't just a Prince thing. You can't create a "Star Wars" spoof with your Luke Skywalker doll with out George Lucas' consent.

So why should Prince be any different? Why is his art any less valuable and respected?


Actually, George Lucas doesn't mind a thing (without his permission) as long as it not for commercial gain. He actively promotes fan sites and networks.

He is very controlling, but only on people profiteering from his product. Prince could learn a thing or two from him.

George even employs a full time fan relations manager to ensure the fans are considered.
.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 11/15/07 5:19pm

Anxiety

SquirrelMeat said:


George even employs a full time fan relations manager to ensure the fans are considered.


Prince has a fan relations manager too!

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 11/15/07 5:22pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
grinderSexy

avatar

Anxiety said:

SquirrelMeat said:


George even employs a full time fan relations manager to ensure the fans are considered.


Prince has a fan relations manager too!


Anx, are you sure I really don't look like that? lol
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 11/15/07 5:23pm

Flowerz

Anxiety said:

SquirrelMeat said:


George even employs a full time fan relations manager to ensure the fans are considered.


Prince has a fan relations manager too!



falloff

... hey, Predator is my man .. lol.. he kicked Alien's booty!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 11/15/07 5:24pm

SquirrelMeat

avatar

Anxiety said:

SquirrelMeat said:


George even employs a full time fan relations manager to ensure the fans are considered.


Prince has a fan relations manager too!



I thought hed been sacked and Sam had taken over again...

.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 11/15/07 5:25pm

Anxiety

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Anxiety said:



Prince has a fan relations manager too!


Anx, are you sure I really don't look like that? lol


only in drag, luv razz
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 11/15/07 5:27pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
grinderSexy

avatar

Anxiety said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Anx, are you sure I really don't look like that? lol


only in drag, luv razz

whew !!!!! Good thing I dind't wear any makeup on my trip! lol
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 11/15/07 5:28pm

Linn4days

"If it's 'only about discussing Prince's music', you won't need pictures!"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 11/15/07 5:28pm

mikedelic

Marcel Duchamp... LLOHQ... if you speak french, that might mean something to you... but, just to add to your discussion... Mona Lisa...and Wendy...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 11/15/07 5:30pm

Anxiety

Linn4days said:

"If it's 'only about discussing Prince's music', you won't need pictures!"


once he gets the pictures under his complete control, guess what's next? evillol
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 11/15/07 5:31pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
grinderSexy

avatar

Linn4days said:

"If it's 'only about discussing Prince's music', you won't need pictures!"


Please. A picture enhances the experience and there can be nothing wrong with this! Sheeps barf
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 11/15/07 5:37pm

Linn4days

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Linn4days said:

"If it's 'only about discussing Prince's music', you won't need pictures!"


Please. A picture enhances the experience and there can be nothing wrong with this! Sheeps barf



Beat dog hollers aloud for the neighborhood.. Most of these "so-called angry fams-united" seem to be this way..

Prince fell for their trick, and gave a couple of them international fame.

Do you really believe that theses sites would close if they could post photos of him? No. These sites are all these people have in The World. It's their identity.



[Edited 11/15/07 17:38pm]
[Edited 11/15/07 17:41pm]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 11/15/07 9:19pm

ReginaCarman

chiltonmusic said:

You know I think I understand why Prince is suing for content and as much as I love the org I am on the side of Prince. Not to the extent that he is taking it but for the idea why!! Check this video out!

http://www.youtube.com/wa...wBXV1xLcY0

Now do you really want to see that bullshit with Prince music behind it? Like he says in the new song. He doesn't want you, me or anybody but him using his music or likeness to get their 15 minutes of fame! This is why he isn't letting us post the pics of him anyomre, as well as showing his videos and what not.

See one of the reasons we all like Prince is because he is so different than every other star. He doesn't completly whore himself out, you're not gonna see a Prince reality show. With Prince its either you enjoy and respect the music, his music, the way he writes and performs it or you can be out!!



So we won't get alot of bootlegged material on youtube or even this very site. We won't get to hear obscure cuts in a public form. BUT what you will get is great music, both old and new. You will get incredible live shows that have no equal on this Planet. And most importantly you will get an artist that gives a fuck about what the hell he has created. He wants you to get it but only if you can take the journey and if you can't, see ya!!

So that's my thoughts on this and yes I hear ya Prince and I agree with your point.


u know the Frightening thing is, and i have read of actual occurances of what i will relate next.This is Enlightening and here is the gist. If a person writes or creates something. and some other being is lawless enough to later change the meaning or words after the Author died,because strangers decided to use someone elses art wrongfully, then a whole lot of people would be in the dark as to the true meaning of the Song, Lyric, Book any Artistic Creation. Someone could ruin someone else's honest Artistic Works or Creations for whatever reason they chose. i read about something similar in a local paper a while back , i wish i had kept the Aritcle for reference.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 11/15/07 9:22pm

jacobpb

avatar

The whole defective mentality behind the suing is very self-centered, totally oblivious to a functioning networking society, unrealistic and unenforceable. Art comes from other art. Not from a vacuum. Prince is a genuis but his rap parodies are just one example of using someone else's influence. "Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief" -Bono.

Parody/satire of another artist's work is protected usually. The notion that other people are leeching off his fame? Okay, so like what 1% of society with nefarious aims playing his background music on a video for example? Bootlegging..okay that's understand. The other vast percentage recognizes his brilliance by using his images, that's called COMMUNICATION, basic human behavior since the dawn of time, especially relevant for someone who CHOSE to be a PUBLIC ARTIST. So he doesn't want to be a musical muse/influence/inspiration to anyone anymore?

Likewise, it's not only about the music. That's nonsense. It's always been about his image and teasing the public with sexual innuendo especially from his girl bands. So now he feels taken advantage of and unable to manipulate the masses apparently.

This whole endeavor he's undertaking on technicalities under the law
is a fight that will only hurt him and it's THE BIGGEST MISTAKE/LACK OF JUDGEMENT of his career and it's becoming increasing clear his behavior has become SOCIOPATHOLOGICAL. Sad to say, but something's clearly out of sync. I hope he drops this nonsense.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 11/15/07 9:40pm

ReginaCarman

jacobpb said:

The whole defective mentality behind the suing is very self-centered, totally oblivious to a functioning networking society, unrealistic and unenforceable. Art comes from other art. Not from a vacuum. Prince is a genuis but his rap parodies are just one example of using someone else's influence. "Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief" -Bono.

Parody/satire of another artist's work is protected usually. The notion that other people are leeching off his fame? Okay, so like what 1% of society with nefarious aims playing his background music on a video for example? Bootlegging..okay that's understand. The other vast percentage recognizes his brilliance by using his images, that's called COMMUNICATION, basic human behavior since the dawn of time, especially relevant for someone who CHOSE to be a PUBLIC ARTIST. So he doesn't want to be a musical muse/influence/inspiration to anyone anymore?

Likewise, it's not only about the music. That's nonsense. It's always been about his image and teasing the public with sexual innuendo especially from his girl bands. So now he feels taken advantage of and unable to manipulate the masses apparently.

This whole endeavor he's undertaking on technicalities under the law
is a fight that will only hurt him and it's THE BIGGEST MISTAKE/LACK OF JUDGEMENT of his career and it's becoming increasing clear his behavior has become SOCIOPATHOLOGICAL. Sad to say, but something's clearly out of sync. I hope he drops this nonsense.


That qoute by Bono is nonsense.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 11/15/07 9:44pm

coolcat

Flowerz said:

Prince n his camp trying to put the Org in the same boat as PirateBay is nonsense .. no one on this site has downloaded any videos from this site (which is the argument of the case).. and the Org is not making any money from the gallery... how do they explain the Org is making money here? jail time n compensation charges are being brought up here and it's nonsense


clapping Exactly right. prince.org has been very respectful of Prince... In the end the stuff that goes on here leads to money in his pocket... prince.org doesn't allow any illegal music files or videos, or allow any links to anything like that.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > I UNDERSTAND AND AGREE WITH YA PRINCE!!!