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Printablewell im 17 and im a huge fan of prince, he and MJ are the only musicians i listen 2, and im happy with that. I love his newer material than sum of the old,Ofcourse if i went live , i would want to hear SUM of the hits (Lets Go Crazy,When Doves Cry,Kiss), but would also want to hear (Shhh,Guitar,Joy in Repetition,3121). But i think its the same with all singers, when sumone goes to ur shows or concerts they EXPECT u 2 play the Hits cuz thats wat ur famous 4 and thats wat the not-so-die-hard fans know. Now i dont no how many times prince has said "This will be my last HITS tour". | |
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HomeSquid said: ejnbmore said: I was singing along loudly to For You in my kitchen with my mp3 player when my 9 year old yelled who wrote that song. So I told her it's Prince and let her listen to that minute or so of his acapella. With raised eyebrows she said that's Prince, that's really nice acapella. I love her reaction to his music and I realize that it will take his real fans to truly introduce the next generation to his genius past present and future. I accept the challenge.... She wants to see him in concert and she knows quite a few of his songs because I cautiously expose her to his tame work. I have every album and fully intend to let hear it all when she's older.
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I'm not sure Prince is an oldies act, but certainly along the way he has become Mr Man, The Establishment, The Old Way Of Doing Things. "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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CJanssen said: HomeSquid said: That's why he's having this mid-life crisis. This self-destructive hissy fit about his image. He's the one that's tarnished his own image with idiotic behavior- the man has an ego ten times greater than his talent (which has already been overrated). He enjoyed a bump in popularity when the MTV generation felt nostalgic following the Super Bowl performance but it's over Prince...you might as well switch to Jazz
...the only records that will stay in print 20 years from now will be his Warner Bros output. EVER (yes even at his age last summer) seen him live? If not: 
You have no right of chirping. yes. Boring. All flash and NO SOUL. Prince is more hype than anything | |
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wlcm2thdwn said: Stop the hate son.
Hate? LOL> Prince isn't important enough to hate. I'm just telling it like it is and you whiney lemmings are in denial. Prince HATES his fans and I understand why. It's impossible to respect a Prince fan. | |
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HomeSquid said: CJanssen said: EVER (yes even at his age last summer) seen him live? If not:
You have no right of chirping. yes. Boring. All flash and NO SOUL. Prince is more hype than anything  He has proven it over and over again. Different year, same shit. | |
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MsLegs said: HomeSquid said: yes. Boring. All flash and NO SOUL. Prince is more hype than anything He has proven it over and over again. Different year, same shit.o2 in london WAS the shit!  [Edited 11/15/07 7:35am] | |
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lottielooloo1968 said: MsLegs said: He has proven it over and over again. Different year, same shit.o2 in london WAS the shit!
[Edited 11/15/07 7:35am] Yeah he can put on a good show. So what? So did Ray Charles but he was an oldies act for the last 30 years and so is Prince. Prince HASN'T HAD A REAL HIT SINCE "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" | |
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HomeSquid said: lottielooloo1968 said: o2 in london WAS the shit!
[Edited 11/15/07 7:35am] Yeah he can put on a good show. So what? So did Ray Charles but he was an oldies act for the last 30 years and so is Prince. Prince HASN'T HAD A REAL HIT SINCE "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" | |
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Jatrig said: The fact that your 19 and like Prince is not the point....I believe the point is that Prince has not, since the early 1990's produced "classic" work that will be remembered 20 years from now and still boughten in stores. Valid point. For those who say "Prince has changed, deal with it...." -- remember the Sign O Times tour -- and Lovesexy/Nude tour? He played so many songs (almost all songs) that were written and released within 2 years of the tour - and people in the audience are SINGING ALONG. Today, if Prince made a tour comprising 80% songs written in the past 3 years, fuck that - lets say the past 8 years -- only the die-hards would be singing along and no one would know what in the world he's playing - - he's stuck having to play the "hits" to sell concert seats. This wasn't the case in 1988. So say what you want about Prince playing different music - more power to him -- if it was GOOD, he could sustain a tour playing songs from this new era, but the fact is he cannot.  So this is why Prince is an Oldies act now. Sad but true.This post is bang on. | |
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I think he did tour the "one night alone" tour with mostly new stuff like in the old days. Also, these days, it does not seem like there will be very many classic singles from anyone... maybe one or two a year... "Crazy" by Barkley?
I do believe that Prince could easily pull a new concept tour with new songs if he wanted to. He just wants to get a little monetary power right now and wanted to re-establish his pop presence in England I guess. My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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b4 i went 2 london concert, cant say i was overly excited... i expected him 2 churn out his old stuff & had never been a big fan 
but the show blew me away! he is crazy flash without even trying! biggest show off. super confident, because he can b. thts y hes a superstar! he's got it & more.... the energy from him felt so amazingly generous & fresh that it left me gasping 4 more. he played some of the oldies & made them sound like new! really fresh! more than anything, i realised this is a man who has constantly evolved & improved various aspects of his act. hes playing guitar better than ever. hes totally absorbed in it. 
he is still evolving & i think is going on 2 a different level. if anyone is prepared 2 miss a show, its their loss. he will never keep everyone happy with music but needs 2 snap out of his obssession with his internet issues cos it is tainting the karma. [Edited 11/15/07 8:13am] | |
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NouveauDance said: skywalker said: Fans show up for the old favorites and the hits.[/b]
Fans do? Or casual listeners do. I want to hear stuff I haven't heard him do live before, but casual concert goers want to hear the songs they know. As far as this goes, Prince has always been in a great position - the show is for the mass audience, the aftershow is for the diehards. Casual listeners show up for "the hits". Fans show up for the rare treats. "New Power slide...." |
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HomeSquid said: That's why he's having this mid-life crisis. This self-destructive hissy fit about his image. He's the one that's tarnished his own image with idiotic behavior- the man has an ego ten times greater than his talent (which has already been overrated). He enjoyed a bump in popularity when the MTV generation felt nostalgic following the Super Bowl performance but it's over Prince...you might as well switch to Jazz
...the only records that will stay in print 20 years from now will be his Warner Bros output. Hold Up! Wait a minute! He may be a royal pain, an egotistical foot stomping tyrant, an over zealous sue happy son of a king but... You can not ever say that Prince's talent is overrated! Come on now!  | |
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Jatrig said: For those who say "Prince has changed, deal with it...." -- remember the Sign O Times tour -- and Lovesexy/Nude tour? He played so many songs (almost all songs) that were written and released within 2 years of the tour - and people in the audience are SINGING ALONG. Today, if Prince made a tour comprising 80% songs written in the past 3 years, fuck that - lets say the past 8 years -- only the die-hards would be singing along and no one would know what in the world he's playing - - he's stuck having to play the "hits" to sell concert seats. This wasn't the case in 1988. So say what you want about Prince playing different music - more power to him -- if it was GOOD, he could sustain a tour playing songs from this new era, but the fact is he cannot. So this is why Prince is an Oldies act now. Sad but true.Isn't that the same for every popular act during their peak years when they're 25-35 years old? You won' catch Paul McCartney playing a tour and not singing Beatles songs either. | |
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The last time Prince played to American audiences in an arena and was playing new material was 1988. Even then, he had trouble selling out venues. He hasn't had a bonafied hit since the early 90's. And the only time people were singing along in large venues to new music was the Purple Rain tour. People were already coming to the Parade and Lovesexy tours to hear the hits. To sum, the man has been an oldies act for nearly twenty years. [Edited 11/15/07 8:53am] No hard feelings. | |
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HomeSquid said: That's why he's having this mid-life crisis. This self-destructive hissy fit about his image. He's the one that's tarnished his own image with idiotic behavior- the man has an ego ten times greater than his talent (which has already been overrated). He enjoyed a bump in popularity when the MTV generation felt nostalgic following the Super Bowl performance but it's over Prince...you might as well switch to Jazz
...the only records that will stay in print 20 years from now will be his Warner Bros output. Your threads still suck. (Insert something clever here) | |
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HomeSquid said: wlcm2thdwn said: Stop the hate son.
Hate? LOL> Prince isn't important enough to hate. I'm just telling it like it is and you whiney lemmings are in denial. Prince HATES his fans and I understand why. It's impossible to respect a Prince fan. He's obviously important enough for you to come on here and bitch about him for hours on end - give it a rest!! | |
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MsLegs said: HomeSquid said: yes. Boring. All flash and NO SOUL. Prince is more hype than anything He has proven it over and over again. Different year, same shit.Well, don't think that it matters to both of you what further will be said but maybe I'm a little like you... . Each concerttour is about every 3/4 years, so unless you go 20 times to the same show, a show of Prince is just a great experience to have. Each tour is completely different, if it wasn't I would admit. This last tour was, IMO too much greatest hits, I like more unknown music mixed between the hits but I knew that when buying the tickets. And I didn't see enough of him, which annoys the crap out of me, specially since everytime I have to wait so many years to see him, and yes he's getting older, never know when he stops. If you think he's an oldies act and you don't like his music, why bother making this clear here, I don't understand. Just don't listen, just don't buy tickets. No one can be good for 30 years in a row. Enjoy what he has made in all those years and pick out the good stuff from the last few years. Throw away what you don't like, I do it all the time. Not only from him but from everyone. Buy tickets of.... hmmm, for me very difficult. It's a matter of taste. So many artist but no one with his class. Who has over so many years good shows, nice songs and a great attraction. I don't know anyone. Madonna made a good confessions tour though. I really think many artists are boring, running like a headless chicken on stage, to the left, to the right. But as said before, it's a matter of taste. Point is, I really don't see me at a Justin Timberlake fan site complaining that I think he's such a unoriginal ass that doesn't know how to dance. I listen to the few songs of him I like. I just don't buy his tickets and that's it. It's me and me alone who decides who I like and who I want to see in concert. Justin makes millions of dollars with his music and shows, so lot of people like him, who am I to differ. Are you disappointed that he isn't the same as he was before? Is that so bad? | |
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HomeSquid said: Prince HATES his fans and I understand why. Some are too brainwashed with too much purple kool aid  that they're to drunk and programmed to asskiss. | |
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Jeffiner said: HomeSquid said: Hate? LOL> Prince isn't important enough to hate. I'm just telling it like it is and you whiney lemmings are in denial. Prince HATES his fans and I understand why. It's impossible to respect a Prince fan. He's obviously important enough for you to come on here and bitch about him for hours on end - give it a rest!! Why don't you and Ms Legs go out for a drink together and bitch about Prince between yourselves. You sound like you'd get on really well - she/he agrees with everything you say! | |
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 Paid asskissers/spindoctors and kool aid drinkers . Continue w/the banter to try to prevent free speech. You have the wrong place for that try 3121.com. | |
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Jatrig said: b3xy said: ummm if you mean that only old people like him i am only 19 and discovering his music and lovin every moment and i know quite a few other people who are into his music that are the same age as me 
i dunno why people think he is doing this because he is older there's nothing wrong with being older  couldnt he just want to get his image back under control  The fact that your 19 and like Prince is not the point....I believe the point is that Prince has not, since the early 1990's produced "classic" work that will be remembered 20 years from now and still boughten in stores. Valid point. For those who say "Prince has changed, deal with it...." -- remember the Sign O Times tour -- and Lovesexy/Nude tour? He played so many songs (almost all songs) that were written and released within 2 years of the tour - and people in the audience are SINGING ALONG. Today, if Prince made a tour comprising 80% songs written in the past 3 years, fuck that - lets say the past 8 years -- only the die-hards would be singing along and no one would know what in the world he's playing - - he's stuck having to play the "hits" to sell concert seats. This wasn't the case in 1988. So say what you want about Prince playing different music - more power to him -- if it was GOOD, he could sustain a tour playing songs from this new era, but the fact is he cannot. So this is why Prince is an Oldies act now. Sad but true.Nailed it. Even in the early 90s P would fill the show up with new songs and no-one complained. Hell, I remember him doing songs before they were released and we loved it 'cos the songs were so good. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: Nailed it. Even in the early 90s P would fill the show up with new songs and no-one complained. Hell, I remember him doing songs before they were released and we loved it 'cos the songs were so good. Gold-experience era Prince did play more new songs than old (more mid-90s than early). But there were plenty of complaints, even though they advertised the shows as being more new-music centric. I figure if it's a major arena tour that's geared towards a majority of casual fans, go ahead and do the hits, and mix in some new stuff and some hardcore fan favorites. The musicology tour had a pretty good mix that way. "What kind of fuck ending is that?" |
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purplecam said: HomeSquid said: That's why he's having this mid-life crisis. This self-destructive hissy fit about his image. He's the one that's tarnished his own image with idiotic behavior- the man has an ego ten times greater than his talent (which has already been overrated). He enjoyed a bump in popularity when the MTV generation felt nostalgic following the Super Bowl performance but it's over Prince...you might as well switch to Jazz
...the only records that will stay in print 20 years from now will be his Warner Bros output. And this is why you're here. Not bad for someone who's supposed to be "washed-up". Give me a fucking break.  I agree Purplecam, Why Indeed  | |
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ElCapitan said: midnightmover said: Nailed it. Even in the early 90s P would fill the show up with new songs and no-one complained. Hell, I remember him doing songs before they were released and we loved it 'cos the songs were so good. Gold-experience era Prince did play more new songs than old (more mid-90s than early). But there were plenty of complaints, even though they advertised the shows as being more new-music centric. I figure if it's a major arena tour that's geared towards a majority of casual fans, go ahead and do the hits, and mix in some new stuff and some hardcore fan favorites. The musicology tour had a pretty good mix that way. I remember reading tons of reported complaints about the Gold tour from casual fans. They wanted old stuff. My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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ElCapitan said: midnightmover said: Nailed it. Even in the early 90s P would fill the show up with new songs and no-one complained. Hell, I remember him doing songs before they were released and we loved it 'cos the songs were so good. Gold-experience era Prince did play more new songs than old (more mid-90s than early). But there were plenty of complaints, even though they advertised the shows as being more new-music centric. I figure if it's a major arena tour that's geared towards a majority of casual fans, go ahead and do the hits, and mix in some new stuff and some hardcore fan favorites. The musicology tour had a pretty good mix that way. I said early 90s, not mid 90s. Early 90s = '90-'93. I remember him playing tunes like "Damn U", "Sexy MF" and "The Question Of U" before they'd even been released and everyone went apeshit. On the D&P Tour the newer tracks were some of the highlights of the show. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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cream72 said: purplecam said: And this is why you're here. Not bad for someone who's supposed to be "washed-up". Give me a fucking break. I agree Purplecam, Why Indeed These people are gluttons for punishment. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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ufoclub said: ElCapitan said: Gold-experience era Prince did play more new songs than old (more mid-90s than early). But there were plenty of complaints, even though they advertised the shows as being more new-music centric. I figure if it's a major arena tour that's geared towards a majority of casual fans, go ahead and do the hits, and mix in some new stuff and some hardcore fan favorites. The musicology tour had a pretty good mix that way. I remember reading tons of reported complaints about the Gold tour from casual fans. They wanted old stuff. I remember that too. Prince is damned no matter what he does. It's like he just can't win. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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ufoclub said: ElCapitan said: Gold-experience era Prince did play more new songs than old (more mid-90s than early). But there were plenty of complaints, even though they advertised the shows as being more new-music centric. I figure if it's a major arena tour that's geared towards a majority of casual fans, go ahead and do the hits, and mix in some new stuff and some hardcore fan favorites. The musicology tour had a pretty good mix that way. I remember reading tons of reported complaints about the Gold tour from casual fans. They wanted old stuff. Refer to my previous post. Gold Experience was 1995. That is not the early 90s. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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