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Reply #30 posted 11/14/07 8:56am

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ReginaCarman said:

AsylumUtopia said:


No he doesn't. Haven't you heard the adage that respect must be earned?

Do you think he's earning respect now?


Yes i do, he is protecting himself and in the process many others, bcause he is blazing a path that will make it easier for others to protect themselves and their Art. smile And in addition, Karmically or Heavenly speaking if a person does not try to protect himself/herself than that person is hurting themself and also others because one life touches many other lives all day everyday, just with a thought. SO, Yes Prince is DESERVING of RESPECT ALL THE TIME. smile

Well, not from me, he's not. It is his demands that (or perhaps I should say - what is being interpreted as demands that) go beyond control of his own copyrighted work that I don't respect.

Trying to protect himself and his work - fine. Trying to excercise some control over my freedom of speech - not fine.

Simple really - respect when it's due.
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Reply #31 posted 11/14/07 9:03am

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ReginaCarman said:

etifaim said:

I suppose in general I feel every person should be respected...However, we all make mistakes or do things to disrespect others that may not merit our own respect.

So...in conclusion I'd say that Prince is deserving of respect when it is due, and he's not deserving of respect all the time.

No human is, really. neutral


There are many "souls" who deserve RESPECT ALL THE TIME.Because those kind of "souls" are always thinking in a Loving manner and thinking right and doing the right thing to the best of their situation. i am always thinking Lovingly, but i can be short tempered sometimes, because someone was rude or hurtful to me, or have unreasonable or selfish expectations, or maybe one of my children ask the same question for he 5th time. i still deserve REPSECT because eventhough i am thinking Lovingly and right, several other outside conditions are occuring and not my fault, thus causing me to be upset and i am right in reacting in an upset manner at that time, because those outside conditions are wrong in being or occuring in that said condition at that time and the Karma there is such that i can rightfully be upset and react accordingly. i still eserve RESPECT. i can also say to my children , sorry i was short tempered, but such and such was going on at the same time and u interrupted and boom! i don' like to be short tempered but i was and am still a LOVING person at the same time. i could go on but i'd be here for days.



Not that i disagree with what you just said, but unless you KNOW PRINCE PERSONALLY, how do you know he's ANY of the things you just described?

Aren't you ASSUMING he is?
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Reply #32 posted 11/14/07 9:08am

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ReginaCarman said:

etifaim said:

I suppose in general I feel every person should be respected...However, we all make mistakes or do things to disrespect others that may not merit our own respect.

So...in conclusion I'd say that Prince is deserving of respect when it is due, and he's not deserving of respect all the time.

No human is, really. neutral


There are many "souls" who deserve RESPECT ALL THE TIME.Because those kind of "souls" are always thinking in a Loving manner and thinking right and doing the right thing to the best of their situation. i am always thinking Lovingly, but i can be short tempered sometimes, because someone was rude or hurtful to me, or have unreasonable or selfish expectations, or maybe one of my children ask the same question for he 5th time. i still deserve REPSECT because eventhough i am thinking Lovingly and right, several other outside conditions are occuring and not my fault, thus causing me to be upset and i am right in reacting in an upset manner at that time, because those outside conditions are wrong in being or occuring in that said condition at that time and the Karma there is such that i can rightfully be upset and react accordingly. i still eserve RESPECT. i can also say to my children , sorry i was short tempered, but such and such was going on at the same time and u interrupted and boom! i don' like to be short tempered but i was and am still a LOVING person at the same time. i could go on but i'd be here for days.


Like I said, generally all people deserve respect [Or they should be entitled to it, to state my ideas more clearly]. BUT what about someone who has murdered someone? What about someone who has treated someone else disrespectfully? What if someone spreads lies about someone, tarnishes their name? What if someone treats you unfairly because of your class, race, gender, religion, etc? The truth is, NO ONE is deserving of respect all the time (referring to humans, here, God IMHO is always deserving of respect). That's just my take on the matter. You do not have to agree.
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Reply #33 posted 11/14/07 9:10am

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SexyBeautifulOne said:



I can think of at least 20 people, right now, off the top of my head, that actually know the man personally, that could easily dispute that!


is he still a prick to people who surround him?

I thought he was more plesant these days? still the same?


i can tell from the Music and Lyrics that Prince writes, that he is LOVE and if it is necessary to put someone in their place that is ,in your words "surrounding him", then it is for a Good and Right Reason!
[Edited 11/14/07 9:11am]
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Reply #34 posted 11/14/07 9:16am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

ReginaCarman said:



There are many "souls" who deserve RESPECT ALL THE TIME.Because those kind of "souls" are always thinking in a Loving manner and thinking right and doing the right thing to the best of their situation. i am always thinking Lovingly, but i can be short tempered sometimes, because someone was rude or hurtful to me, or have unreasonable or selfish expectations, or maybe one of my children ask the same question for he 5th time. i still deserve REPSECT because eventhough i am thinking Lovingly and right, several other outside conditions are occuring and not my fault, thus causing me to be upset and i am right in reacting in an upset manner at that time, because those outside conditions are wrong in being or occuring in that said condition at that time and the Karma there is such that i can rightfully be upset and react accordingly. i still eserve RESPECT. i can also say to my children , sorry i was short tempered, but such and such was going on at the same time and u interrupted and boom! i don' like to be short tempered but i was and am still a LOVING person at the same time. i could go on but i'd be here for days.



Not that i disagree with what you just said, but unless you KNOW PRINCE PERSONALLY, how do you know he's ANY of the things you just described?

Aren't you ASSUMING he is?
[Edited 11/14/07 9:03am]


Let me ask you a question. Have u ever heard music by someone and said Wow!, i can tell that that person is really nice, or kind, or Loving. Or listened to someones music and said Whoa! that female is a "B". i have and i have been right everytime.
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Reply #35 posted 11/14/07 9:17am

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You know when people say something completely off the wall you go and do the "profile click".....who exactly is this? Yeah...I just did that. lol

I've done it with Imago as well, one too many times
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Reply #36 posted 11/14/07 9:19am

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ReginaCarman said:

ButterscotchPimp said:




Not that i disagree with what you just said, but unless you KNOW PRINCE PERSONALLY, how do you know he's ANY of the things you just described?

Aren't you ASSUMING he is?
[Edited 11/14/07 9:03am]


Let me ask you a question. Have u ever heard music by someone and said Wow!, i can tell that that person is really nice, or kind, or Loving. Or listened to someones music and said Whoa! that female is a "B". i have and i have been right everytime.


So...is that respectful? (referring to bolded part)
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Reply #37 posted 11/14/07 9:23am

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AsylumUtopia said:

ReginaCarman said:



Yes i do, he is protecting himself and in the process many others, bcause he is blazing a path that will make it easier for others to protect themselves and their Art. smile And in addition, Karmically or Heavenly speaking if a person does not try to protect himself/herself than that person is hurting themself and also others because one life touches many other lives all day everyday, just with a thought. SO, Yes Prince is DESERVING of RESPECT ALL THE TIME. smile

Well, not from me, he's not. It is his demands that (or perhaps I should say - what is being interpreted as demands that) go beyond control of his own copyrighted work that I don't respect.

Trying to protect himself and his work - fine. Trying to excercise some control over my freedom of speech - not fine.

Simple really - respect when it's due.


But if you are talking about someone else and their Art or Work, then you have the Responsibilty to treat that someone with Respect and Kindness,and that means not insulting someone or somones elses Art or Work, and not using someone elses Art or Work for your own selfish purposes. Not that you are doing that, but i have to utilize certain pronouns in order to convey my thoughts.
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Reply #38 posted 11/14/07 9:26am

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etifaim said:

ReginaCarman said:



Let me ask you a question. Have u ever heard music by someone and said Wow!, i can tell that that person is really nice, or kind, or Loving. Or listened to someones music and said Whoa! that female is a "B". i have and i have been right everytime.


So...is that respectful? (referring to bolded part)


if shes "B" she doesn'tdeserve respect.
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Reply #39 posted 11/14/07 9:28am

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ReginaCarman said:

ButterscotchPimp said:




Not that i disagree with what you just said, but unless you KNOW PRINCE PERSONALLY, how do you know he's ANY of the things you just described?

Aren't you ASSUMING he is?
[Edited 11/14/07 9:03am]


Let me ask you a question. Have u ever heard music by someone and said Wow!, i can tell that that person is really nice, or kind, or Loving. Or listened to someones music and said Whoa! that female is a "B". i have and i have been right everytime.



Maybe when i was TWELVE YEARS OLD.
You certainly cannot tell a person's character from their music.
Sorry to burst your little bubble, but that's naive as hell.
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Reply #40 posted 11/14/07 9:33am

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prince deserves respect.

prince's fans deserve respect.

within the fan community, we deserve to respect those with differing opinions.

the next door neighbors deserve respect. your mom deserves respect.

nobody owns a monopoly on deserving respect.

this thread is just fueling more polarized pissing matches, so it's time for the lock.

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