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Thread started 11/12/07 10:34am

ThataintFunky

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Jazz - Good or Bad?

I really can't stand all the slick fake jazz Prince is trying to sell us ....

I got scared of the 1986 demos, inspired by Miles Davis
I really dislike The Rainbow Children
I can't stand The Vault, Xpectation, C-Note, N.E.W.S

I really dislike Jazz, but the jazz Prince is given us isn't any better than the jazz they play in the small club just around my corner ... and I live in a very small village!

GIVE US THE FUNK! WE GOTTA HAVE THAT FUNK
Why does he need to spoil the Funk by adding such a lousy jazz outro to PHUnk?
He might had called the song "Lousy Outro" instead of PFUNK.

Who really disagrees with me ... and how did you come to like the Funk in the first place?
In my world funk and jazz don’t match : Party or technical bullshit?
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Reply #1 posted 11/12/07 10:42am

darrenj

ThataintFunky said:

I really can't stand all the slick fake jazz Prince is trying to sell us ....

I got scared of the 1986 demos, inspired by Miles Davis
I really dislike The Rainbow Children
I can't stand The Vault, Xpectation, C-Note, N.E.W.S

I really dislike Jazz, but the jazz Prince is given us isn't any better than the jazz they play in the small club just around my corner ... and I live in a very small village!

GIVE US THE FUNK! WE GOTTA HAVE THAT FUNK
Why does he need to spoil the Funk by adding such a lousy jazz outro to PHUnk?
He might had called the song "Lousy Outro" instead of PFUNK.

Who really disagrees with me ... and how did you come to like the Funk in the first place?
In my world funk and jazz don’t match : Party or technical bullshit?


Can't say i'm overly keen the jazz stuff,I just listen to the stuff i prefer.
[Edited 11/12/07 10:52am]
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Reply #2 posted 11/12/07 10:56am

NouveauDance

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Can't really agree with you on this one. One of things I like about Prince is his versitility.

Prince's forays into "jazz" (or instrumental stuff) I like a lot - The Madhouse albums are great, I like Xpectation, not so much N.E.W.S.

You don't hear Funk on '16' or 'The Rainbow Children'? confused
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Reply #3 posted 11/12/07 11:25am

ThataintFunky

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NouveauDance said:

Can't really agree with you on this one. One of things I like about Prince is his versitility.

Prince's forays into "jazz" (or instrumental stuff) I like a lot - The Madhouse albums are great, I like Xpectation, not so much N.E.W.S.

You don't hear Funk on '16' or 'The Rainbow Children'? confused


yes, I do hear the Funk ... but the overall feeling spoils my fun.

I don't expect anyone to agree with me, I'm just curious for your opinion 'bout this ... It's always nice if someone does agree!
But I do know I'm very narrow minded in this case, which doesn't bother me
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Reply #4 posted 11/12/07 11:36am

NouveauDance

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We like what we like - doesn't need any explanation does it smile
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Reply #5 posted 11/12/07 11:59am

sexxydancer

I'm not a fan of jazz music at all,but oddly I have an appreciation 4 Prince's. wink
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Reply #6 posted 11/12/07 12:07pm

gemini13

I'm getting tired of the constant horn usage. yawn
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Reply #7 posted 11/12/07 1:47pm

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sexxydancer said:

I'm not a fan of jazz music at all,but oddly I have an appreciation 4 Prince's. wink


i find the same thing...sometimes it can be great in the right atmosphere, other times, just dull...but i love xpectation..so beautiful in places; and i like n.e.w.s too, has a really tight sound to it. though in all honesty, i love all genres that prince covers, almost always does a great job and adds his own feel to them, (just wish he'd do a bit more reggae biggrin )
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Reply #8 posted 11/12/07 4:15pm

Tame

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That boy can play that funky music.
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Reply #9 posted 11/12/07 4:18pm

andykeen

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Xpectation is amazing... But i do perfer the FUNK!

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Reply #10 posted 11/12/07 9:20pm

etifaim

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I enjoy Funk and Jazz. shrug
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Reply #11 posted 11/12/07 9:49pm

blackwell1

I love the forays into jazz. Madhouse stuff is fun and memorable. Love N.E.W.S. and I still play it when I want to chill. Love Xpectation, too. I didn't get C-Note. Don't know why, I just didn't. But I want to hear it, too.
I didn't really think about the end of PFUnk being jazz. It was just good, fun, inspired music to me.
Jazz Good.
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Reply #12 posted 11/12/07 11:29pm

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zsasz said:

sexxydancer said:

I'm not a fan of jazz music at all,but oddly I have an appreciation 4 Prince's. wink


i find the same thing...sometimes it can be great in the right atmosphere, other times, just dull...but i love xpectation..so beautiful in places; and i like n.e.w.s too, has a really tight sound to it. though in all honesty, i love all genres that prince covers, almost always does a great job and adds his own feel to them, (just wish he'd do a bit more reggae biggrin )

i was gonna say the same as yous.i love his madhouse music(8 has quickly become one of my favorite albums)and i even picked up eric leeds' first album and it's awesome.i'm sure there is jazz music(or other kinds of music,for that matter)that is way better than prince's.but it probably won't speak to me as much as his.it's weird.not much into reggae,though(love "calhoun square" though,which is the only reggae song he's done that i can think of). biggrin
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Reply #13 posted 11/12/07 11:33pm

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oh,and the outro on "PFUnk" is my favorite part of the song as it reminds me of all the crazy songs he did with the camille voice back in the day(shockadelica,if i was your girlfriend,etc.).real funky imo.a lot of parliament songs sound kinda jazzy and they're pioneers in funk.
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Reply #14 posted 11/13/07 12:55am

ThataintFunky

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purplepolitician said:

... a lot of parliament songs sound kinda jazzy and they're pioneers in funk.


??? You got me confused here ... Parliament & Jazzy ????
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Reply #15 posted 11/13/07 4:20am

electrorock

i love prince on those jazzyish records. i dont know why some ppl in here always say FUNKAY (as great or better than other styles). prince makes pop rock funk...
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Reply #16 posted 11/13/07 4:52am

musicolog

Well.. for me Funk is a natural children of Jazz.

Loops, improvisations, drums... much come from jazz in P's musicianship.
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Reply #17 posted 11/13/07 5:52am

JazzMeUp

Jazz, Blues, Funk and Soul are blood brothers and I love them all! Especially when Prince is having a jam with them. smile
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Reply #18 posted 11/13/07 7:09am

Billmenever

fishslap either you like it brick or you don't
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Reply #19 posted 11/13/07 8:13am

NAMOR3000

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purplepolitician said:

zsasz said:



i find the same thing...sometimes it can be great in the right atmosphere, other times, just dull...but i love xpectation..so beautiful in places; and i like n.e.w.s too, has a really tight sound to it. though in all honesty, i love all genres that prince covers, almost always does a great job and adds his own feel to them, (just wish he'd do a bit more reggae biggrin )

i was gonna say the same as yous.i love his madhouse music(8 has quickly become one of my favorite albums)and i even picked up eric leeds' first album and it's awesome.i'm sure there is jazz music(or other kinds of music,for that matter)that is way better than prince's.but it probably won't speak to me as much as his.it's weird.not much into reggae,though(love "calhoun square" though,which is the only reggae song he's done that i can think of). biggrin


Calhoun Square isn't really considered a "reggae type" song. But check out. Blue Light, Ripopgodazippa, and Splash...
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Reply #20 posted 11/13/07 9:47am

roodboi

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I'm getting tired of the constant horn usage. yawn



couldn't agree more....I thought Prince would have beeen more diverse at this point in his career...but the last three albums have been the same ole same ole...the horns are getting tired....and quite honestly I think the horns have taken his live show down a notch...
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Reply #21 posted 11/13/07 10:03am

JazzMeUp

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gemini13 said:

I'm getting tired of the constant horn usage. yawn



couldn't agree more....I thought Prince would have beeen more diverse at this point in his career...but the last three albums have been the same ole same ole...the horns are getting tired....and quite honestly I think the horns have taken his live show down a notch...


I actually love the horns, I think they add that little touch of class to his shows. But then again, I am a jazz lover. So I guess it's down to people's own personal taste.
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Reply #22 posted 11/13/07 10:07am

misslilly

sing me the blues prince/ lets hear some real feeling
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Reply #23 posted 11/13/07 10:50am

iceblue07

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Just love all that jazz, just love all that funk, I love everything Prince does. heart biggrin biggrin biggrin
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Reply #24 posted 11/13/07 10:55am

JellyBean

OMG!! Jazz is sweet. And when Prince adds his flavor to it, it become just that much better. We gotta think. 20 years ago, when Madhouse first dropped not too many Jazz musicians were going with that funky edge. People got wind of Madhouse and saw what Jazz and Funk could do.....the sky is the limit.
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Reply #25 posted 11/13/07 12:11pm

roodboi

JazzMeUp said:

roodboi said:




couldn't agree more....I thought Prince would have beeen more diverse at this point in his career...but the last three albums have been the same ole same ole...the horns are getting tired....and quite honestly I think the horns have taken his live show down a notch...


I actually love the horns, I think they add that little touch of class to his shows. But then again, I am a jazz lover. So I guess it's down to people's own personal taste.



the horns are just fine for some numbers but really kinda ruin other songs in my opinion...it's like his entire show is built around horns now...every song has horns...
Let's Go Crazy is better of without 'em...and so are a bunch of other songs...it's like he can't come up with different arrangements for songs unless it includes horns...
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Reply #26 posted 11/13/07 12:35pm

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iceblue07 said:

Just love all that jazz, just love all that funk, I love everything Prince does. heart biggrin biggrin biggrin


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Reply #27 posted 11/13/07 12:42pm

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NAMOR3000 said:



Calhoun Square isn't really considered a "reggae type" song. But check out. Blue Light, Ripopgodazippa, and Splash...


yeah ripopgodazippa and blue light rule, plus there is the reggae mix of pink cashmere and the reggaeish vibe of sun moon and stars. cant place splash though, gonna have to check my collection out and find it. cant beat a good dose of reggae...bob marley, maxi priest, beres hammond...hell yeah
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Reply #28 posted 11/13/07 1:16pm

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Love the horns when he'd use them in songs from 86 or outtakes from that year. But now, I always hated when he puts the horns on Let's Go Crazy.
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Reply #29 posted 11/13/07 4:04pm

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ThataintFunky said:

I really can't stand all the slick fake jazz Prince is trying to sell us ....

I got scared of the 1986 demos, inspired by Miles Davis
I really dislike The Rainbow Children
I can't stand The Vault, Xpectation, C-Note, N.E.W.S

I really dislike Jazz, but the jazz Prince is given us isn't any better than the jazz they play in the small club just around my corner ... and I live in a very small village!

GIVE US THE FUNK! WE GOTTA HAVE THAT FUNK
Why does he need to spoil the Funk by adding such a lousy jazz outro to PHUnk?
He might had called the song "Lousy Outro" instead of PFUNK.

Who really disagrees with me ... and how did you come to like the Funk in the first place?
In my world funk and jazz don’t match : Party or technical bullshit?
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