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govinda said: vivid said: I don`t understand why you compare her with PRINCE!!! thatis the title of this thread : 'Madonna makes Prince look like an amatuer' I AM LOOKING FOR USED PRINCE CONCERT TICKETS ... https://www.facebook.com/...erttickets | |
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emesem said: 120M in ADVANCES!
From today's Wall Street Journal: http://online.wsj.com/public/us (go to today's headlines, then to Marketplace to get the entire article, it's only up for 24 hr.) "The deal carries significant risks for Live Nation. People in the music industry estimate that at current recorded-music prices, the promoter would have to sell about 15 million copies of each of its three albums to make back its investment on that piece of the deal alone. But an artist manager not involved in the deal said that with prices for CDs and downloads alike falling, that number could increase." We'll have to see how Radiohead does with selling their latest albume through their own website..... [Edited 10/11/07 14:24pm] | |
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xenophobia2002 said: 4bjb said: I agreed. Like Prince I'd rather be "free" doing what I want 2 do, how I want 2 do it with my music/creativity than to be enslaved. Believe it or not more and more artist will follow Prince....See 3121 (NIN quote 10-8) very interesting. Note: the love/passion 4 money is the very "root" 2 evil. NIN ... talking about a band no one has really heard of recently Musically.. Prince has NOT been an inventor like he used to be, whereas Madonna still attracts a lot of young people as well. Whether or not you like her music, there is no denying about that. She gets airplay, her singles are donloaded by young people, she gets the no 1 positions. I don't give me that real music by real musicians reference.... take a listen at Planet Earth, lots of "technical" music as well People like you are incredible!!! Just because Madonna may attract a lot of young people, doesn't mean that she is an inventor. Quite frankly, I find Madonna's music to be total pop, and totally without any aesthetic value. But this is my opinion. There is no question that Madonna has sold more records like P, but can she play her own instruments? Can she produce her own records? Can she write hit songs for other people? Can she play music on other musical genres? Why don't you answer these questions before showing your ignorance the next time you decide to post. | |
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joyinrepetition said: Read the fine print. Little does she know that she's about make the same mistake Prince made over a decade ago. All she sees is dollars sign right now. She will learn what it's like to be a slave!
Well, that's true in theory, and admirable for the principle, but the fact remains that with the reasoning Prince used (I can move than 2 million copies of my records) only happened if he gave his CD away (part of a ticket, cover mount). He hasn't actually sold more than two million copies of an album since Diamonds & Pearls (Emancipation doesn't count in my book, cuz he only sold 665,000+ copies of the whole 3-disc set.) I have been around long enough to know that although the artist should deserve to have the final say, the artist should be smart enough to know that he won't be right 100% of the time. | |
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emesem said: 120M in ADVANCES!
Excuse me but didn't Prince sign his $100 million dollar contract waaaay back in like 1992???? Only about 15 years before Madonna????? "Always blessings, never losses......"
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Madonna's music would never move you to tears or get in your soul.
That kind of ability is priceless. |
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carax said: Madonna's music would never move you to tears or get in your soul.
That kind of ability is priceless. It has moved me 2 tears.....everytime I hear her, my ass hurts. | |
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Graycap23 said: carax said: Madonna's music would never move you to tears or get in your soul.
That kind of ability is priceless. It has moved me 2 tears.....everytime I hear her, my ass hurts. "Always blessings, never losses......"
Ya te dije....no manches guey!!!!! I'm a guy!!!!
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oh my are we really comparing the two? they are such different people; he is a musician and she is a showwoman. Good for her.. but I think Prince is led by a different beat.. maybe now he is not led by money as much as he was.. maybe he never really was.. only he knows why.. good for him!!!! maple syrup and jam.. | |
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Madonna isn't even in the same ballpark as Prince! I wouldn't even compare the 2. Other than they were born in 1958...that's about it. "The little 1 will escort u 2 the places within ur mind" | |
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marcia204 said: oh my are we really comparing the two? they are such different people; he is a musician and she is a showwoman. Good for her.. but I think Prince is led by a different beat.. maybe now he is not led by money as much as he was.. maybe he never really was.. only he knows why.. good for him!!!!
I definitely agree with you. Really it is like comparing apples to oranges. Different motivations, objectives, goals, etc.... Even Michael Bland said that Prince does what he wants, even if it is detrimental or destructive to himself or career. "Always blessings, never losses......"
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Why are we even having this conversation. Madonna can barley sing, she has a litlle bit of rhythm and no talent for playing any instrument except for playing a few chords on a guitar every now and then. Madonna has about as much musical talent as Jenney Mcarthy. She is a scrub that happened to be in the right place at the right time and blew up when there was a void for talentless sluts who don't shave underneath their arms when the pose in playboy.
Comparing Prince to Madonna is like comparing Michael Jordan to Dennis Rodman. One has flash and talent, the other just has flash. Miles D | |
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Bishop31 said: All things that Glitter ain't Gold...
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xenophobia2002 said: 4bjb said: I agreed. Like Prince I'd rather be "free" doing what I want 2 do, how I want 2 do it with my music/creativity than to be enslaved. Believe it or not more and more artist will follow Prince....See 3121 (NIN quote 10-8) very interesting. Note: the love/passion 4 money is the very "root" 2 evil. NIN ... talking about a band no one has really heard of recently Musically.. Prince has NOT been an inventor like he used to be, whereas Madonna still attracts a lot of young people as well. Whether or not you like her music, there is no denying about that. She gets airplay, her singles are donloaded by young people, she gets the no 1 positions. I don't give me that real music by real musicians reference.... take a listen at Planet Earth, lots of "technical" music as well NIN the band no one has really heard of recently? Where you been? God, catch up! They might have had the same problem as Prince did with 3121, but they've been touring like crazy all over the world! | |
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I don't know anything about Madonna's personal life, I just wish that she is
happy with whatever she does...I support her career with the "English Roses." I have seen one of these books, and really loved the artwork, the story I skimmed over in the book store, had I have had the money, I would have purchased thousands of things, I do not own. Anyway, sometimes a singer, is also more than a singer, Madonna has had a wonderful career as a performer, However she has also been preoccupied with her humanitarian goals, and the adoption. I support her tender heart. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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Sowhat said: emesem said: 120M in ADVANCES!
Excuse me but didn't Prince sign his $100 million dollar contract waaaay back in like 1992???? Only about 15 years before Madonna????? #1 Prince never really got 100m i think the real figure wasnt event half that. #2 Getting 100m nowadays is amazing since NOONE can figure out how to make money in this business anymore. Back then 5m albums was a so-so hit, now 5m is the best selling album of the year. that said...i think Live Nation is crazy for making this deal even with the touring revenues (which is really what its all about...the albums are window dressing) | |
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so why aren't you on madonna message board then ?
other than the fact you enjoy prince's music. Your lips would make a lollipop too happy. | |
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4bjb said: IMO Madonna is enslaving herself, it seems she is afraid to take risk. .
madonna afraid to take risk "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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mehogeni said: Graycap23 said: U won't be saying that when the ticket prices are $400.00 lol Prince sold tickets at 3121 for $125 each, and has had tickets in the thousands of dollars for private performance...I'm sure if Prince was playing in NYC for that much then there would still be fans on here going without a problem.....All I care about is the fact artists are getting the money they think they deserve , without creative restriction, and truly sticking it to the record labels...and a high ticket price isn't hitting the fans...you go if you can afford it and if you can't and really want to go...well save up for next time but at least you can see it on youtube prolly the next week or on some corny NBC/HBO special
heck honestly her prices may go down since the label isn't going to be taking such a big chunk out of her concert revenue now... Not me! surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
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xenophobia2002 said: 4bjb said: I agreed. Like Prince I'd rather be "free" doing what I want 2 do, how I want 2 do it with my music/creativity than to be enslaved. Believe it or not more and more artist will follow Prince....See 3121 (NIN quote 10-8) very interesting. Note: the love/passion 4 money is the very "root" 2 evil. NIN ... talking about a band no one has really heard of recently Musically.. Prince has NOT been an inventor like he used to be, whereas Madonna still attracts a lot of young people as well. Whether or not you like her music, there is no denying about that. She gets airplay, her singles are donloaded by young people, she gets the no 1 positions. I don't give me that real music by real musicians reference.... take a listen at Planet Earth, lots of "technical" music as well Point 1 - That makes no sense - What has being a musical 'inventor' (innovator perhaps?) got to do with chart positions? Totally unrelated. Point 2 - Prince has always used lots of 'technical' sounds - He has been a hugely influential producer because of it, but on which planet has that got anything to do with the fact that he is a fantastic musician? Madonna on the other hand is nothing of the sort. Madonna is a very influential pop star. Prince is a genius. And your arguments just serve to make that clear (to those who didn't already know). | |
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mehogeni said: ...actually LiveNation is not a record label it is a concert promotion firm...they are just paying her to distribute her cds/merchandise, promote her concerts...soooo in essence she is not even signed to a record label now and getting paid by concert promoters to do their job but doing it in a way to copy record labels AND without them giving input in how she creates her music like a traditional label would.....this is what record labels SHOULD be...distributors who give their artists the money they deserve WITHOUT being creative policemen...very smart move indeeed
lOL her music is not as Good as Prince's but this is a seriously genius and historic move...and a much smarter way to get more money and respect from labels then suing Youtube....HIT THE RECORD LABELS AND NOT THE FANS!..BRAVO MADONNA! Exactly.This deal is mostly about touring.She's smart enough to know that's where the real money is. | |
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joyinrepetition said: Read the fine print. Little does she know that she's about make the same mistake Prince made over a decade ago. All she sees is dollars signs right now. She will learn what it's like to be a slave!
Madonna is the wealthiest female pop artist on the planet.The term "slave" doesn't apply here  Furthermore,how can she be a slave when she's doing what she wants to do? She will be making music,touring the globe,and making outrageous sums of money,all on her own terms.That doesn't sound like a "slave" to me.
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vivid said: xenophobia2002 said: NIN ... talking about a band no one has really heard of recently Musically.. Prince has NOT been an inventor like he used to be, whereas Madonna still attracts a lot of young people as well. Whether or not you like her music, there is no denying about that. She gets airplay, her singles are donloaded by young people, she gets the no 1 positions. I don't give me that real music by real musicians reference.... take a listen at Planet Earth, lots of "technical" music as well Point 1 - That makes no sense - What has being a musical 'inventor' (innovator perhaps?) got to do with chart positions? Totally unrelated. Point 2 - Prince has always used lots of 'technical' sounds - He has been a hugely influential producer because of it, but on which planet has that got anything to do with the fact that he is a fantastic musician? Madonna on the other hand is nothing of the sort. Madonna is a very influential pop star. Prince is a genius. And your arguments just serve to make that clear (to those who didn't already know). just read the 2 posts above !! Over 50 years Prince will be known as the man who used to make good music, but somehow lost it ..... Madonna will top all charts, succesfull recordings (whether you like 'em or not), succesfull concert tours etc Hugely influental producer ... you live on Planet Earth ????? Or Planet Moon I AM LOOKING FOR USED PRINCE CONCERT TICKETS ... https://www.facebook.com/...erttickets | |
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Xenophobia2002 said:
I don't give me that real music by real musicians reference.... take a listen at Planet Earth, lots of "technical" music as well I think people are misinterpreting P when he says this. He is not saying that the "technical" stuff is a bad thing (IMO)...he is just saying that stuff's okay in the studio, but when u perform live u should have a band and do that shit right...play ur instruments. Anyone can sound good in a studio environment; look at how many singers have had hit records and then when you go see them live can't even sing. "I know that living with u baby, was sometimes hard...but I'm willing 2 give it another try.
Cause nothing compares....nothing compares 2 u!" | |
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emesem said: Sowhat said: Excuse me but didn't Prince sign his $100 million dollar contract waaaay back in like 1992???? Only about 15 years before Madonna????? #1 Prince never really got 100m i think the real figure wasnt event half that. #2 Getting 100m nowadays is amazing since NOONE can figure out how to make money in this business anymore. Back then 5m albums was a so-so hit, now 5m is the best selling album of the year. that said...i think Live Nation is crazy for making this deal even with the touring revenues (which is really what its all about...the albums are window dressing) What Prince signed was a $100 contract 15 years before Madonna (if/when she actually signs this one)! What he actually got because of what happened is totally different. Madonna has not even signed her contract yet, let alone seen any money from it. She may end up only see half as well. And if you think Prince is not making money hand over fist now a days you are crazy! "Always blessings, never losses......"
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Prince will always make her out to be an amatuer talent wise though. Whilst shes a good business woman, her live singing is sometimes painfully out of tune! I do like her music but not live... | |
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prince is in the category of miles davis, jimi hendrix or sly stone. hes a fucking genius.
musicians think prince is a supergreat musician and they dont even consider madonna a rock'n roll star as morrison or axl rose or bruce madonna is nowhere near prince for fucksake! ...and im a big fan of her | |
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