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Reply #30 posted 10/13/02 7:54am

Anji

Berry said:

I just want to know why people like pimpy think that Prince should do what his fans want and not what Prince wants...just blows me away...

Who's selfish?... Maybe he has thought in the past "hmmm... I like these tracks the best so I'll release these..." thinking that his fans will like it, but of course not. His big intention is to just piss us all off and laugh about it! Yeah, that makes the most sense eek



Prince is selfish and so are most of his fans. That's not a bad thing, it makes for a healthy relationship in my opinion.
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Reply #31 posted 10/13/02 8:14am

JeePee

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butter4yomuffin said:

First, knowing that there is a great interest and demand 4 ur recordings, b it live or studio-work AND ur friends seem to b willing 2 pay 4 them, why don't U cut the bootleggers by the roots??
I know this question has been asked before but I haven't heard any answer 2 it yet!

U have the material, U have a platform 2 sell and foremost, U can get the fair share that U deserve 4 the work U have produced.


I mailed the NPGMC why Prince wouldn't release every show of the Euro tour in the same way The Who is now doing it and Pearl Jam did it. Their reply:

"It's Prince's decision and we support him 100%"

Well, at least they replied, within a day as well.
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Reply #32 posted 10/13/02 3:50pm

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Berry said:

I just want to know why people like pimpy think that Prince should do what his fans want and not what Prince wants...just blows me away...

Who's selfish?... Maybe he has thought in the past "hmmm... I like these tracks the best so I'll release these..." thinking that his fans will like it, but of course not. His big intention is to just piss us all off and laugh about it! Yeah, that makes the most sense eek



ummm..Berry..because his "fans" are the ones that buy the music. Maybe if Prince would spend more time listening and not so much time sueing his FANS...maybe he would release some GOOD music and stop bitching and whining about shit thats irrelivant. The whole REASON ppl WANT FREAKING BOOTLEGGS..is because they are FANS..not because of some sick twisted bullshit...the little bit of money that bootleggers make..ISNT gonna break Prince's pocket.

Any one that says "BOOTLEGGERS AREN'T FANS" are fucking idiots.

I think all the Prince websites should shut down for a month or two...just as a protest...because if you don't agree with the bootlegging thing...Prince is gonna do something else just as assinine..and piss off the rest of his "flock"

Ya'll making the man out to be like freakin MOSES!! Who needs it.
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Reply #33 posted 10/13/02 4:07pm

TerryD

Bootlegging has been around for a long time is a part of the music biz. I would think Prince should know this. Maybe he should stop using lawyers and stop feeding the system of law.
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Reply #34 posted 10/13/02 7:21pm

pimpytheclown

Hi Berry:




I know if I WERE PRINCE, you BETTER believe that I would listen to my fans!

KISS does. THE ROLLING STONES do. ELVIS did. PAUL MCCARTNEY DOES. so do the GRATEFUL DEAD.

...Their fans LOVE THEM! They gave 110% to their fans. They will go down in music AND pop culture HISTORY as popular,loved and thought of VERY POSITIVELY.

Gene Simmons does not shut down fan sites. Jerry Garcia's estate doesn't send cease-and desist letters to fans. Paul McCartney doesn't B.S. fans with piano albums or vault "Wings" ( think Revolution ) cd's only to not come thru! Mick Jagger doesn't start up a music club only to give STONY SILENCE and vauge replies to unhappy customers.

VASHTI is RIGHT! PRINCE IS 100% WRONG- his biggest fans ARE the ones who buy the bootlegs, because they are the ones who OVERLOOK Prince's behavior that turns OFF rest of the world and plunks down extra $$$ for the GOOD Prince music. Are the REAL fans the ones that bought "Purple Rain" and MAYBE "The Hits 1"?...

NO! The REAL fans are the ones that overlook the rip-offs that were "Chaos and Disorder" and 1999:TNM, and stick with Prince.

PRINCE BOOTLEGGER BUYERS are the most SAVVY Prince fans: they know where the GOOD stuff is!TOO BAD for Prince is he is too stubbron or ignorant to cater to the public.

The fact is this: PRINCE AND HIS FANS HAVE A LOVE-HATE RELATIONSHIP WITH EACH OTHER. Whould THE BEATLES ever have started a concert with John Lennon, stating, "If you came to hear " Hard Day's Night" you came to the WRONG show! Here's "Revolution #9!"

"Forget "Purple Rain" here's 'Avalanche'!" is a sign of disrespect from Prince. Even if that is his M.O. he didn't have to say it @ the "ONA" Tour.


I would speculate that most of Prince's catalog sells a lot LESS than ELVIS', KISS', THE DEAD's, and that's because the NEVER went to war with their fans and always left them wantiing more. Most music buyers can't be bothered with Prince, and this needing for fans to write an "OPEN LETTER To Prince" is an indication why.
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Reply #35 posted 10/14/02 5:05am

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Well, I must say you make some strong points there Pimpy...
Props and pounds wink
It's interesting to read all the different perspectives on this matter!

Whether or not one agrees or disagrees with our opinions in this case doesn't really matter, the fact that we try to put things in perspective is interesting enough by itself.

But as for me personally, I'm still not convinced whether I'm greedy (for wanting stuff Prince is reluctant to share with the world), or Prince is being naief and should just take over control and put out the jelly he's got!!

He wanted control...He's got it
He wanted freedom...He's got that too!
He has the stuff...So..indeed, in the end it's up to him what to do with it.

I'll try 2 get some word out by himself tomorrow because I had about enough of this...nuts

Who knows what will happen...I'll keep you posted!
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Reply #36 posted 10/14/02 6:24am

Vashti

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THANK YOU PIMPY!!! wink


atleast some ppl can see what IS and what ISN'T...its nice once in a while.
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