She said it back in 1988:
"In the 80s there was a lot of good dance music but even Prince, although he's great, he's not an originator like Sly was, so even the greats of this generation aren't in the truly genius status."
Here´s the link
http://jonimitchell.com/l...fm?id=1639

i'm sure that if she was asked the question now she would call him a genius as his sound has been influencing music over the last 15-20 years

IwonderMe said:

She said even the greats of this generation aren't in the truly genius status.
To her genius means being an originator in the first place.

I think Prince is definitely a genius, NOT a originator.
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And what the hell has Joni MITCHELL done???? Eh?





I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Does she mention his 'puffin eyes' in the same article??

IwonderMe said:

Well, then it's Obvious that she doesn't know what she is talking about!

IwonderMe said:

PRince is Absolutely an Origanator!!!!

Here are more interesting quotes from an interview Morrissey made her in 1996:
"Like the first time I met Prince, you know, I put together two very unruly sentences in the course of the night and he corrected me. He said "a poet like you." I said, oh, God, like I have to -- I think I said I'm tireder -- he said are you tired or are you hungry? I think I said I'm tireder than I am hungry. It was some grammatical error. That still sounds right to me. But Prince corrected me, you know, like, and I said, "Oh, God, do I have to play the poet?"

Here´s the link
http://jonimitchell.com/l...cfm?id=678

IwonderMe said:

Good God. She sounds like an idiot. And this is coming from a Joni Mitchell fanatic.

on what instances have they met?

i can only think of two:

1. the "around the world in a day" listening session at wb records before
the album was released. she was invited and showed up.

2. during his 3121 parties at his home adress (not in vegas) she was in
attendance at least once. stevie wonder was mentioned in the same blurb
at 3121.com at the time. one of the violet brown reports iirc

does anyone know of any other time they met? besides prince being at one
of her shows before he made it big.

IwonderMe said:

ah. very interesting. so they have met and spoken as well

IstenSzek said:

Lars, know your Prince facts!! They have a bake-off each Tuesday! Prince made a nice jam sponge last week, so Violet Brown tells me.

IwonderMe said:

Thank you for posting that, by the way. I have often wondered whether P considers himself a poet or not...

onenitealone said:

yeah, here's violet brown's report:

flour! the HEAT was on when miss M joined the MAN
testing his NUEVO XELLIANS new GEAR hard FUNKstyle
as the npg sat waiting and Lord was judge after an
afternoon of white hands n sugar crumbs. prince is
still KING in k_ITCH_n(pg)lol



how the hell did you deduct they had a bake off from that mess?

well Joni Mitchell was no Odetta...

IstenSzek said:

Oh. My. God.

'flour!'. 'miss M'. 'white hands and sugar crumbs'.

krayzie said:

Yeah, because the Minneapolis Sound wasn't original nor created by Prince and of course everyone was performing in bikini drawers and openly talking about overtly sexual acys like head and then singing openly about incest, oh and all 19-year-old newbies had complete autonomy on their 1st album. Yeah, poor Prince - he didn't originate shit.

IwonderMe said:

i don´t blame her.....

IwonderMe said:

Humanity as a whole has not yet reached Genius, can't ya tell?
It isn't how you play the guitar, it's how you love everyone that matters.
We are all our weakest link. And that is a hateful heart. Hate crimes
affect the entire body. Guitar, and music period celebrate those that love
to know that....He who feels it knows it, Reggae-Peace-out.

Tame said:

She's entitled to her opinion, she's WRONG, but she's entitled!

ReginaCarman said:

Prince is an orger?

Well, she's dead right about P NOT being original. He's borrowed from so many different artists it's not even funny. Like MOST great artists have done. That said, P IS a genius. I think Joni has a major thing for P, like Stevie Nicks does. The major difference is that Joni doesn't want to come across like a fan. Whereas Stevie straight up doesn't give a fuck.

MuthaFunka said:

Do you know what is an originator ?

Perfoming in bikini or singing openly about incest is not originating...

And P has borrowed a lot from other artists, probabaly more than any body else...
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Originators are overrated

He is a genius, however. And I'm sure he's kind of annoying when he says shit like this. But she's kind of annoying too.
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krayzie said:

I don't think YOU quite know what an originator is.

Ok so name the artist(s) that performed in bikini underwear, especially as a black R&B artist. Then name the artist(s) that talked openly about incest, and don't give me some "veiled" or "innuendo" examples either.

P was original in his concept of who HE was and wanted to show the audience. Again, who came up with the Minneapolis Sound? Stevie?

EVERY artist has borrowed from others but to say that P borrowed more than any other artist is just plain ignorant and being a hater. But I see who your avatar is and maybe that's why you have a slanted view of P.

Prince is gay?

IwonderMe said:

When u first see the thread title you would think this is something, then u open the thread and this trick talking about something said back in 1988 :nuts:this is 2007!
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onenitealone said:

I remember Miles Davis (I think) said that Prince wasn't an innovator--but a hybrid.

But of course, that could be argued.

Nobody more orginal then the first person who ever played music. Everyone's just copying that person!