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Reply #60 posted 10/01/07 9:08am

namepeace

Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder
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Reply #61 posted 10/01/07 3:25pm

namepeace

Brendan said:

namepeace said:

Don't know where you're going with this, but I was just discussing the merits of the work itself. "Depth" in this context requires using all of the emotions of the human experience in one's work. Miles and Trane didn't play the lighter stuff because they wanted to be heard, per se. They played it because it was part of what they were as artists and people. Regardless of whether their work was heard by the masses or just one "mister."


Just riffing off of your mention of people getting noticed and the 28-choruses (or whatever it was) of blowing by Paul Gonsalves on “Diminuendo and Crescendo in Blue”.

I fully understand and agree with your point about “depth”. The more diversity of soul, the better.

I don’t think these guys necessarily created to be popular, but sooner or later something was bound to stick with a larger audience, like dancing on top of the tables or Clint Eastwood and other white celebrities shining their light on this obvious greatness.



Surely. There was an inordinate amount of criticism at the time, which may have in part lead to “The Black Album” rebuttal.

Now it’s obviously the glory years. Clarity in greater numbers always seems to come with at least 10 or 20 years (or a death) in the rearview.

But I’m guessing that Prince ultimately didn’t want to releases art that was created in part due to people’s ignorant view of his “blackness”.

Of course if this statement had turned out as stunning as “SOTT”, I’m sure that he would have found a way to resolve any such lingering apprehension. wink

namepeace said:

Oh yeah. But I think you're making AND only slightly missing the import of the original point, if ever so slightly. What I'm talking about is the artist who displays a great range of emotions increases his or her depth. Regardless of whether the songs are heard by the masses or just two people in a used record store. As you point out, whether the work is heard makes no difference as to whether it increases the depth of an artist.


Yes, popularity or lack of it has no bearing whatsoever.

This was one of those rare moments where I understood completely.

I was just conversing; vamping off the original theme like a jazz musician, not clouding or debating the original point.


Well put and well done.
Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

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Reply #62 posted 10/01/07 3:38pm

Illustrator

JudasLChrist said:

Listening to Prince makes you a bottom?

Apparently,
a deep bottom.
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