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Printablegarganta said: I thought youtube had no prince videos available to begin with. why bother?
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there are other sites like youtube, much less controlled where I have discovered fantastic live footage for instance. you should try those 
I respect prince´s right to fight this battle New track, huh? That's nice Did u buy it? Yeah, right U seeing that rich motherf*cker again U know who I'm talking about That slicked back FANHEAD with all the gold in his mouth Don't try to play me 4 yesterday's fool Cuz I'll slap your @ss into the middle of next week I'm sorry baby, that's the rules but i think it´s quite pointless really. this whole internet piracy business has really gotten out of hand and princey will not be able to defeat this monster.
Is Mr. George home? Hello, Mr. George? This is your conscience, motherf*cker Why don't u leave motherf*ckers alone? What's wrong with u? Well, why can't we just dance? Why can't we just dance? No, f*ck that, f*ck that I don't talk about u, I don't talk about u Wit' yo' little almond-shaped head @ss Who the f*ck do u think this is? I'll kick your @ss... twice Bob, if u're out there Let me see u dance U said u were funky, c'mon B-O-B, spell the shit backwards, what'd it say Same motherfuckin' sh1t Turn it out Bob, ain't that a bitch? | |
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Spookymuffin said: I LOVE YOU YOU SPEAK SENSE. PREPARE FOR PERSONAL INSULTS!
Prince is a fucking egotistical greedy swine riding high on Jehovah juice. He's talentless and crap now, motivated purely by money (despite his caring, sharing Christian values  ). He's just a pathetic excuse for a human being who had so much he could have done, yet does not....egotistical...yep, probably...but I've never felt that Prince is greedy and/ or motivated by money... | |
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Spookymuffin said: I LOVE YOU YOU SPEAK SENSE. PREPARE FOR PERSONAL INSULTS!
Prince is a fucking egotistical greedy swine riding high on Jehovah juice. He's talentless and crap now, motivated purely by money (despite his caring, sharing Christian values ). He's just a pathetic excuse for a human being who had so much he could have done, yet does not....egotistical?...yep, probably...but I've never felt that Prince is greedy and/ or motivated by money... | |
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dv8xtc said: ok.
let's see: someone got upset because a video they "put together" [not CREATED] with software they didn't write on a computer they didn't invent, running on code they don't understand using music they didn't write and video footage they didn't shoot to put on a website they also didn't make to show to an audience derived from previously mentioned musicians, programmers, inventors and film-makers is complaining that someone whom they don't know, whose music they purchased and allegedly enjoyed; OWES THEM SOMETHING? You think your buck gives you a right to that which isn't yours? [the glory of living "the creative life" and "spirit" required to make the sounds you're sucking your unearned joy out of?] ...I suppose you "own" the cd/file and the first 10 years of his life are "owned" by some strange delusion called "a corporation" and u folks say u "luv his spirituality"[!!!!!] ...what the hell do u think he's erasing????? EVERYTHING IS STILL THERE FOR THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO LOOK FOR IT. HE IS [has] RESCUING HIS LIFE FROM AN ABOMINATION CALLED "THE CORPORATION"... I am sure this is too abstract for little peabrain fanheads, but lets look at it this way: 200 years from now should warner brothers [a group of nasty, greed f*ks] be making $ off of bob marley, marvin gaye, P, miles, stevie etc so dumb@ss fans can say "I'm so cool CAUSE so and so IS a genius"? !!!!! If ya'll had any brains: ya'll would collect P's stuff, keep it OFFLINE [meaning off of corporate or $$ sites] and keep his OLD legacy alive [in the context of what it meant to YOU] and well outside the reach of something that really ought not have the power to dictate ones circumstances...and be glad he hasn't hit the "O.D." wall and is alive and well.....[I ain't religious, but I seem to remember this cat as being "serious" about that intention...or perhaps I should say "sincere"..[confused, mistaken or otherwise ain't the point...though of course...it is...if u dig it..] in any case: god is good the devil is bad...now what do u suppose is the devil?...and what exactly should your hero do that morning he wakes up and realises the devils d1ck has been in his @ss since day one while he was dancin around entertaining y'all at the risk of his libido, creative audacity and verve? It would seem: he would HAVE TO DISAVOW HIS PAST...HOWEVER "HEARTBREAKING" [I WANNA PUKE] IT IS FOR YA'LL, WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK THIS DID TO HIM: THE PROUD PRINCE: HUMILIATED BY THE IRONIC SPECTACLE OF HAVING SERVED HIS ENEMY AS A PURPLE PRANCING FOOL... ..LOOKS TO ME LIKE P FOUND THE NERVE TO FACE IT AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT [RIGHT OR WRONG] AT A COST YOU WILL NEVER EVEN BEGIN TO IMAGINE... ..and appears to be attempting to create a whole new legacy based on a different premise!!! [will it work? is his new pov right? do I enjoy it?...who f*cking cares?:HE'S FREE!] ...and in all of the nonsense written NO ONE WANTS TO SMACK THIS SH1T DOWN ON PRINCIPLE? [..this is beyond having ANYTHING to do with "P"and whether he is, or is not, this or that..this is naked, putrid evil pretending injury while actually committing the crime...I would say "wow"...but it is so much later than that...] let's see: miles, jimi, mj, bird, p, coltrane, jaco, mozart etc spend the better part of their lives in the deep excruciating study, creation and fulfillment of sonic manipulation in the service of expressing a thought, feeling or mood and some dumb@ss has the nerve to equate their silly "mashup" [?!!!!!] bullsh1t with the rigors of serious creative and intellectual pursuit, and folks reading this bullsh1t think it's ok? ...and actually engage in pseudo intellectual debate? This is exactly like seeing some helpless person being molested while the crowd stands around discussing the molestors complaints about the molestee not inviting them to f*ck em in the @zz... are u folks insane? [nevermind...dumb question...this is, after all, teh internets] Why don't we cut to the chase: "I spent $19.99 on something someone made and now I am upset because I feel they should also suk my dik and let me fuk them in the @ss or I will think badly of them and to show how powerful I am, I will post my truly disgusting nonsense and they can't stop me... Tell ya what folks: Will you be happy when the last musician [remember them?], the last painter ['member those folks with paint berets?], the last dancer[no...not lap dancer], the last poet[remember them?] turn their backs on your f*cked up @sses and leave you to the digitaly enhanced bullsh1t of "DJ's[?] "rappers"[?] and repackaged remixes of "originals" long since forgotten? [say: ain't that kid everyones is diggin JUST doing an imitation of MJ?.[an uninspired one at that]..and as interesting [not really] as any number of P's influencees may seem to be: anybody got any idea of what kind balls it takes to be a 5 foot tall horny, seemingly romantic, spiritual brown person with a keen creativity running around on a stage in leg warmers and panties and having the nerve to suggest he wasn't a homo? [not as in "denial" as in "whats the bfd"? is- isn't: who cares?]..took a lot of heart...especially with the intended goal being "popstardom"..there are easier ways to do it ya know....right usher, jinuine,3000,britney,jessica,yadayadayada ad infinitum... ..again: this is probably trolling...and I do this against my better judgment: but: HOW DO YOU FOLKS LOOK IN THE MIRROR? NOBODY OWES YOU SH1T FOR THE MEDIOCRE BULLSH1T LIVES YOU ARE LIVING WHILE PRETENDING THAT LISTENING [!!!?] TO THIS OR THAT PERSON IS ANY REFLECTION ON WHAT YOU ARE..he may or may not be a genius: u can listen to him 24/7 and you ARE STILL JUST A DUMB@SS WASTE OF SPACE COMPLAINING INSTEAD OF "BEING"... ..and if P "releases" absolute crap for the rest of his life he has achieved something fans never do: he lived his life according to his dream and that takes balls most of y'all can't even begin to imagine. ...fans suck @ss..and are clearly insane..[which of course makes me a fool...but this needed to be said a loooong time ago..] Thank you...this is what inspires me the most these days...even before the music... | |
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...sorry about the double posts...when I tried to post the first time it said it couldn't connect to the page... | |
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Spookymuffin said: I LOVE YOU YOU SPEAK SENSE. PREPARE FOR PERSONAL INSULTS!
Prince is a fucking egotistical greedy swine riding high on Jehovah juice. He's talentless and crap now, motivated purely by money (despite his caring, sharing Christian values ). He's just a pathetic excuse for a human being who had so much he could have done, yet does not.and you spend so much time here talking about this horrible human being? just kidding..well not really...yes i am...well.... | |
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vinx98 said: You obviously are such a big fan that you probably call yourself a fam and blindly accept everything he does as correct. But I dont. I do beleive he owes his fans some type of appreciation he shouldnt be fucking us about. Perhaps. and I agree that all of us have a right to challenge Prince especially when he does something really stupid and inconsiderate, which is quite often I'm afraid. but I will never understand those fans who grow more and more angry each year and still stick around. if it gets to that level of anger, just walk way. Jeez. he's only a musician. stop supporting him and/or continue listening to his music when your in the mood for some P-Funk. how long can you stay angry, what's the point? | |
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Spookymuffin said: I LOVE YOU YOU SPEAK SENSE. PREPARE FOR PERSONAL INSULTS!
Prince is a fucking egotistical greedy swine riding high on Jehovah juice. conflating p + mj? and mocking the requisite element [ego, self] to develop the "mad skillz" generally referred to as "talent" [as in: "intrinsic"(look it up) as opposed to earned] He's talentless and crap now, motivated purely by money (despite his caring, sharing Christian values
). He's just a pathetic excuse for a human being who had so much he could have done, yet does not.as if you deserve anything more than derision... the motives of integrity and dignity are clearly dead and gone that is the issue --the only issue 
if u hold the following notion as acceptable: "unpersons defined on paper in legal terms as "real" thereby masking and protecting the villianry of an undefined group of petty and sadistic powermongers" then you cannot hold ANYONES aspiration to principle as "noble" and MUST publicly deride them to mislead the unwary. further: if u hold integrity and dignity as values then you will appreciate p's journey as: at best inspiring and ennervating, and, at least "a given"...ain't nothin unusual, greedy or egotistical about doing your best according to what you think to be right... It is only unusual to those who don't require it [ahem] biz as usual for some of us.... p aint got no lock on it and y'all ain't got no lock on him so cut the sh1t [and: yes, I just pulled "a put up or shut up".] ..I showed you mine...where's yours? buy it here:aLienzkiN guess I have joined the ranks of the greedy and egotistical... must really suck being be part of the crowd, huh? [lol] [Edited 9/19/07 9:37am] | |
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curious: are posters encoding amazon links into the text or is that the site using fan "dialog" as amazon/google/corporate/advertising thereby doing to the users that which was done to P: being made an unwitting/unwilling partner in the game of others making a buck off of you....
funny huh? ...and y'all wonder why P want's to shut you muthaf*kas down? If it's posters: at least only use your text for keyword amazonspam...be even better slling your own sh1t.. If it's the site: gravity works assholes.... | |
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dv8xtc said: I was just incensed to see that he is taking harmless stuff off YouTube.
To compare me to a killer like Mark Chapman is ridicolous. Im afraid its now you who sounds insane, yeah I was angry but I dont want to kill anyone. As far as Im concerned the guy is out there, in the spotlight. He wants fans, he wants us to appreciate him, but it seems now its only on his terms. For me thats a contradiction. If he wants to be forgotton, then so be it. But he wants us to love his music, and then deny us a few simple pleasures (youtube), then I think this is all ego and self love and not fair on the fan. Now that we are fighting about who has been a fan the longest, i have been for 20 years (1978-1998), I have been a part time fan ever since, buying all his records, going to concerts, look at the org, etc but it doesnt mean that makes your point any stronger than mine. Im just saying its an insult to his fans that stuck by him that he wants to "control" what we are listening to. Hey, I dont mind if he doesnt want us to buy bootlegs, thats his right - but YouTube is just a bit of fun - what is he to gain by denying us this?? its all about control. Control of fans, those that have stayed loyal and contant. Control of what? Its pointless. Its not simply about he making music and us buying it. Its not food to be consumed. I can buy a peice of crap record, listen to it, throw it away and never care again. With Prince records, they are part of the "collection", always cherished no matter how bad they are. Im sure there are many others like me - perhaps they are killers too? You obviously are such a big fan that you probably call yourself a fam and blindly accept everything he does as correct. But I dont. I do beleive he owes his fans some type of appreciation he shouldnt be fucking us about. ...next time y'all wanna know why the world is such a sh1thole: remember this creature and what they live by. ...and should you find yourself in sympathy with this distorted pretense of virtue: remember: P playing 250 million instruments blindfolded with a monsterous 30" c0ck STILL ONLY MAKES YOU A PARASITIC PIECE OF SH1T....and don't anyone f*ckin dare suggest he is "less" than whatever it was that your f*cked up fantasy needed him to be... beyond disgusting... ...and yes: I know this creature warrents no response: but P and his kind have paid and been paying a price they don't deserve for this crap to "stand" unchallenged on a supposed "fan site".....I don't care how much so and so has or doesn't have and whether they did such and such to u know who, u know how, u know where...twice hey thanks for the insults, note that i never insulted anybody. and chill out, i have the right to my opinion. | |
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wonder505 said: vinx98 said: You obviously are such a big fan that you probably call yourself a fam and blindly accept everything he does as correct. But I dont. I do beleive he owes his fans some type of appreciation he shouldnt be fucking us about. Perhaps. and I agree that all of us have a right to challenge Prince especially when he does something really stupid and inconsiderate, which is quite often I'm afraid. but I will never understand those fans who grow more and more angry each year and still stick around. if it gets to that level of anger, just walk way. Jeez. he's only a musician. stop supporting him and/or continue listening to his music when your in the mood for some P-Funk. how long can you stay angry, what's the point? this is what scares me most... that i will have to walk away... after so many years of being a fan it aint easy. | |
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vinx98 said: wonder505 said: Perhaps. and I agree that all of us have a right to challenge Prince especially when he does something really stupid and inconsiderate, which is quite often I'm afraid. but I will never understand those fans who grow more and more angry each year and still stick around. if it gets to that level of anger, just walk way. Jeez. he's only a musician. stop supporting him and/or continue listening to his music when your in the mood for some P-Funk. how long can you stay angry, what's the point? this is what scares me most... that i will have to walk away... after so many years of being a fan it aint easy. if that scares you then you really need a break from Prince world. there are many things in this world that should really scare you. i understand what you're saying but either you walk away or stay angry. if you choose to stay angry then that is your own doing. | |
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wonder505 said: vinx98 said: this is what scares me most... that i will have to walk away... after so many years of being a fan it aint easy. if that scares you then you really need a break from Prince world. there are many things in this world that should really scare you. i understand what you're saying but either you walk away or stay angry. if you choose to stay angry then that is your own doing. im not angry, maybe i write angry, but im not actually angry. but its true i need a break from prince. damn prince.org is too addictive though! | |
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you manipulated his music without his permission. you can credit him all you want, but if he never said yes then it isn't legit. sorry. | |
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happyhappy said: you manipulated his music without his permission. you can credit him all you want, but if he never said yes then it isn't legit. sorry.
ok wait so someone who has a shitty copy of the most beautiful girl in the world recorded off VH1 back in 1910 and its grainy and chewed up as can be uploads it to youtube. is manipulating him? . . [Edited 9/19/07 14:06pm] | |
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Christopher said: happyhappy said: you manipulated his music without his permission. you can credit him all you want, but if he never said yes then it isn't legit. sorry.
ok wait so someone who has a shitty copy of the most beautiful girl in the world recorded off VH1 back in 1910 and its grainy and chewed up as can be uploads it to youtube. is manipulating him? . . [Edited 9/19/07 14:06pm] no, whoever posted this said that they put one of his songs to another video. i think that's manipulation (which isn't to say it's a bad thing, that depends on the artist.) however you might have copy right stuff to worry about. | |
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purplesweat said: We live in a world where we are all connected to each other with the click of a mouse. Yet Prince still mananges to be further away from us than ever. At the risk of getting flamed, (and I do understand your pov) let me explain how far away I feel from Prince at the moment: I have been a fan for 16 years plus, and last week I attended one of Prince's enigmatic aftershow performances at Indigo. I stood about 5 metres away from him while I heard and watched him jam with the band to Around The World in A Day and Beautiful Strange. I have also had the priveledge of seeing two of his main shows at the O2 for a fraction of the price that other big stars charge (an equivalent George Michael ticket cost my gf £200). At the same time I have enjoyed sharing my experiences of the 21 Nights in London "tour" with fellow fans, and feel closer to Prince, his music and his fans than ever before. Prince can do whatever he likes with youtube as far as I am concerned, I was a fan long before youtube was conceived and I will be a fan long after it has gone. Prince fans have never had it easy. Being a fan has meant taking stick from almost everyone I know. And Prince will never make it easy. We have all had to put up with cancelled gigs, cancelled albums, NPGMC disappointments, name changes, ridiculous interviews, misguided press releases and one or two disappointing music releases. But for every "moan" there are dozens of amazing performances, awesome songwriting, inspiring lyrics and killer funk. Not to mention those guitar solos. You have only been a fan for a year. Welcome to the club. Get used to it, but more importantly, enjoy! [Edited 9/20/07 10:59am] | |
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i think he has the right to protect his copyrighted materials from illegal rebroadcast.
i'm glad he's doing this. his actions will make it easier for other artists to protect their rights on the internet as well. i disagree with your opinion, i guess  | |
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dv8xtc said: curious: are posters encoding amazon links into the text or is that the site using fan "dialog" as amazon/google/corporate/advertising thereby doing to the users that which was done to P: being made an unwitting/unwilling partner in the game of others making a buck off of you....
funny huh? ...and y'all wonder why P want's to shut you muthaf*kas down? If it's posters: at least only use your text for keyword amazonspam...be even better slling your own sh1t.. If it's the site: gravity works assholes.... I thought it was posters, but I posteed something and when I checked it there was a link attached to some of the text...I'm not too happy about it... | |
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very well put the person with the original statment to start this thread.
And as far as the people who say that YOUTUBE is a copyright piracy machine. It probably is, but prince needs to learn to make lemonade out of lemons. If he is losing money on people posting concerts and videos online ilegally, he is gaining money by the many casual fans who will see a clip of him performing live and they go out and buy a record, or they pay 0.99$ for a particular song they saw. Lastly the internet is something bigger than one website, that should have been seen when the drummer for Metallic Lars Ulrich challenged the owner of Napstar for illegal use of musicans music. He won that case, but at the time four other illegal sites were started at the same time. And if truth be told, most of these are videos and concerts that he's not making money off of because they are not sold anywhere. If you want to bitch about a box set that you are selling in a store and it is being posted on youtube 24/7 then maybe I will listen with one ear (maybe). But if its bitching about things that are simple videos and small clips from concerts then stop your complaining. This is something in the black community that we say is arguing about DUMB SHIT. Comparable to the white community's saying MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING Please no comments about being racially insensative its a joke Miles D | |
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welcome to the world of being a Prince fan. You are a newbie so you don't know that every 2-3 years, Prince does something that really PISSED off his fans, but the funny thing is that we enjoy his music enough that we don't want to give in. His next masterpiece is always just around the corner... I've heard his next album is as good as SOTT, Dirty Mind and 1999. I heard he has the NPG/Revolution back together... I heard he is doing a pure rock/funk/piano album...
Sadly, we go back the same way a battered wife goes back, because we know that deep down, there is something worth loving in there. Something that strikes us in a place no one else can touch. There are days that Prince seems like an old friend, who has drifted away from me in life experience, but when we get together, there is still that bit of magic... even though I know he and I rarely see eye to eye. At the end of the night after hanging out with my old friend, we promise to keep in touch, but it usually ends up that only one of us is making the effort and we keep trying, and keep thinking that we can get it back... but that is living in the past. I'll always be a Prince fan, but it will never be the same as it was back in the day when it seemed like every disk was written just for me. I know it wasn't, but it seemed like it. The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/ | |
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madhouseman said: welcome to the world of being a Prince fan. You are a newbie so you don't know
The next person that tries to undermine purplesweat or any other orger's opinion with a 'you are a newbie, so you don't know anything' comment is going to get a virtual  in the face...*shakes fist in air*
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Tonylover said: madhouseman said: welcome to the world of being a Prince fan. You are a newbie so you don't know
The next person that tries to undermine purplesweat or any other orger's opinion with a 'you are a newbie, so you don't know anything' comment is going to get a virtual in the face...*shakes fist in air*
Peace and Love y'all. Christina xx I stand behind what I said. If you want to read the entire text, it is not saying that they aren't justified, in fact, it is agreeing with them and adding to their thoughts. They don't know about the past because they weren't involved in the past. I didn't know about things that happened before my involvement until someone helped me out. There is a difference between telling someone they are uninformed and wrong, and telling someone that they are right, and adding information to their cause. Please, no fist shaking required here! lol The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/ | |
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purplesweat,
Prince is one of the hardest working artists in the music industry, few, if any, would doubt or question that. He has every right to protect his copyrighted material, why shouldn't he - he's the one that worked so hard to get it into the public domain. His work has imagination and taps into something universal. At the end of the day I could 'mash up' or remix his records but it wouldn't give me the right to post them worldwide i.e. on the internet. You write about this experience like a spoilt child...get over yourself. T | |
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Tonylover said: madhouseman said: welcome to the world of being a Prince fan. You are a newbie so you don't know
The next person that tries to undermine purplesweat or any other orger's opinion with a 'you are a newbie, so you don't know anything' comment is going to get a virtual in the face...*shakes fist in air*
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You have the best sig that the org has ever had 
 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: You have the best sig that the org has ever had
Wow, thanks!  | |
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purplesweat said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: You have the best sig that the org has ever had
Wow, thanks! Prince is just such a stupid twat about this shit I came to the conclusion a long time ago that the person I respected died years ago and was replaced with some bodysnatched version of that person. Whatever. At least I knew the real Prince at one time and it is those memories I choose to focus on. Prince will forever be my favorite artist and the one who will probably have made the biggest impact on my life but I take his stupid ass with a grain of salt these days
May I recommend someone worthy of your money: http://prince.org/msg/7/242178 
btw....ignore the haters 
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I guess I've thought this purple dizeaze out a little...When it comes to
feeling left out...It just comes down to singing Aaron Neville's version of "Everybody plays the fool." With Love, there aren't any guarentees, so says the divorce rate. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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