CalhounSq said:

actually me too

Supernova said:

i'm pretty sure i've told you repeatedly how much it smarts when you do things like that to my face

AaronForever said:

I sorry.

Supernova said:

AaronForever said:

Kathy Griffin









funky.
[This message was edited Fri Oct 4 22:52:24 PDT 2002 by CalhounSq]

Shame if he doesn't perform it in Europe, great song.

He didn't play it on Thursday,
but he DID on Friday.

?
[This message was edited Wed Feb 26 23:33:10 PST 2003 by IstenSzek]

I always thought prince was half black&italian like in purple
raini always use to wonder why he never spoke about his roots from itatly

I find it extremely strange that after all these years some so called fans still believe that misinformation about prince being of mixed race. Come on people pay attention. No wonder so many of u don't understand alot of the songs. Clean out your ears and listen and think.

I don't believe that prince Ever, I mean EVER tried to hide the fact that he's black! EVER!

AwhiteguynamedBill said:

No. You didn't.

Supernova said:

But look @ that avatar - maybe he DID...

CalhounSq said:

Trust me on this one, Cal.

Supernova said:

LOL, 'kay...

Supernova said:

Yeah awhiteguynamedbill has a history him and his pal marcusgarvey.I think he may be MPLSstarchild.

Supernova said:

oh yeah, plenty...plenty of :puking: over what an idoit the man is...



so the lesson learned here is, prince shouldn't be giving history lessons?













darn gosh golly!!
[This message was edited Sat Oct 5 11:16:59 PDT 2002 by SkletonKee]

tricky99 said:

hey, that "mixed" business came from Prince himself. blame HIM for not owning up to his heritage from the beginning.

AaronForever said:

Aaron...if you really took the time to break down history, and know what the fuck you're talking about, you would see a few things more clearly...but as a white person, from the midwest no less, I think this is way too much to expect of you. Rarely is it that you take the time to look at anything racial from a point of view other than your own. Not just you, and not all white people. But a lot for damn sure. So here goes; as stated on AMP by me;
In the beginning, Prince did what he did cause he
simply wanted to have an audience that would listen to all his shit. Nothing wrong with that, I would think all musicians want to reach the largest audiece possible if they feel they have something to offer. Why did he do that? Because of the way the system was set up and still is to some extent. So a brotha blurs the lines regarding race to get his shit out there...***think about why he had to even contemplate that shit at all.*** If the powers that be (and we all know who that was and is) weren't so divisive in how they played music, one wouldn't have to state that he was part this and part that...all that would matter was that the music was good. But if Prince back in the day would have been cornered in the R&B market (as he would have been had he made a point of his being black), do you think we would have
Dirty Mind/SOTT/Lovesexy/TRC today? Hell no. These to me are the most wide-ranging bodies of music I have ever heard..incorporates damn near everything. If that doesn't say something to you about the man, then damn. But the brotha did what he had to do. And I don't think he
sacraficed a thing. I think he used your own insecurities about race,flipped it, and got his music out there. If anything, I think Prince embodies the concept of racial equality simply through his music.Sure, he woke up to the fact that as a brotha, no matter how hard you try, you will still get that brotha wake-up call telling you that all ain't well, and he is writing about that now. Has been for a while. Just because he is just now being more open with his thoughts on the subject doesn't mean that he never considered it before.

BlackandRising said:

you can stop right there, because when it comes down to it, you're agreeing with me. i didn't say that it was wrong or right for him to do that. i was stating to the other person that we must look to Prince for causing the misdirection on this.

i'm not sure what that has to do with me being white and from the midwest. but you've got an axe to grind with me, i guess, because you were wrong about the lawsuit issue. so you're going to follow me around the site now and argue with me. that's okay, do what you've got to do.

AaronForever said:

No, I'm not agreeing with you...we can't just look to Prince for the misdirection, we need to look at the situation that forced him to do it as well. Which some people here refuse to acknowledge. Again, that "situation" is clear to some. And alive and kicking today. Just mucking up shit up in a different way.
You stated that he wasn't "owning up to his heritage." What were you trying to say there? That he must have purposely led people to believe this or that. My view is that he gave some disinformation when it was obvious what he was, and let ignorant, dumb-ass people make up their own minds about what he was. He knew what they wre going to think given what he was playing at the time. I thought it was genius when I was growing up. I mean, he said that he's mixed. Not a lie, as most black people are. But, we're still black, no matter how you try and break down what your mix is. If you look black, you're black. Period. And *some* people came away with the notion that he must not be black, therefore safe. Therefore larger audience.
And believe me, I don't follow...I just thought your post was one of the more ridiculous ones in this thread.
And wrong about the lawsuit? LOL! I wasn't wrong...I reviewed the issue thoroughly on WestLaw and Lexus-Nexis and my points were valid in reference to freemyheart, according to the lawyers that reviewed the cases with me. LOL. Your link vs host shit amounted to him being laughed out of court. And your being from the midwest doesn't have anything to do with what I posted really...but your being white has everything to do with the way you most likely see the situation that I responded to here.

BlackandRising said:

time to cut you short again, fool.

i fully understand the situation, and why he did it. someone, however, said that they couldn't believe that people still thought Prince was mixed. all I said was that's what Prince said starting out. don't get your panties in a bunch.

btw, i don't even read the rest of your posts, so you might as well save some time by not rambling on and on. just to let you know.

SkletonKee said:

Now that's funny. Speaking of MLK Jr. (which I did'nt bring up), some people used to say the same things about him back during his lifetime. Also called him a terrorist.




Prince should do what Prince wants, regardless of whether some see it as a "history lesson" or not. He's stating his perspective just like every other recording artist in the history of music. I hope to God we don't have to be exposed to old Gil-Scott Heron recordings or Last Poets recordings, lest we'll all be running around like chickens with our heads cut off in an uproar because of being sheltered. ???...

Im not sure but I dont think Prince ever intentionally mislead anyone as far as his racial background in order to be more successful . If anything he did it (thats assuming he did ) to enhance the mystique about himself he had built up over the years :

"Am I Black or White ? Am I Straight or Gay?..."

Looking back at those early years , I would assume that Prince's first 4 albums were marketed towards Black audiences .By the time "1999" was released ,the pop marketing stratagies had changed considerably, as had the general public's buying habits. Prince wasnt the only Black artist that "crossed over" in the 80s.Many Black artists had huge hits on both sides of the fence ,so to speak.
Micheal Jackson, Lionel Richie, Stevie Wonder,Patti Labelle,Chaka Khan,Kool & The Gang ,Tina Turner,...to name a few.

And while all of the above artists music changed quite a bit from their earlier 70s work, I doubt they did it for crass commercial reasons (i.e. "chasing the White audience")
but had more to do with adopting the then current style.

And while racism unfortunately seems to be alive and well today,to the younger and hipper music buying generation of the 80s it didnt seem to matter.

oh well
No More Avalanche and at least he stopped that speech shit
I mean does he not forget that he owes mostly everything to white fans for supporting him?
most of these black guys are out listining to the next bling bling artist

MrTation said:

PatBoone said:

Wrong: performed second night London.

TRON said:

Also performed second night of European tour.

AaronForever said:

"time to cut you short again, fool." LOL! You know, I pictured you acting like Eminem when I read that...

regarding your "undrstanding of the situation..." you're
the one who stated that he wasn't "owning up to his heritage." That implies that you didn't understand the situation.

BlackandRising said:

mmm, really? has he ever come out and reversed what he said (that he was mixed) since the early days? and don't bother responding unless you have a quote.

AaronForever said:

Yes he has. On tv in front of millions of people on a forgettable awards show that a lot of his white fans were complaining about.