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Reply #30 posted 08/21/07 8:24am

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Raze said:

i like all of the songs, even the ones in the middle. but i do think the cohesion of the album falls apart when he gets into the contmporary (or even retro) r&b stuff in the middle.

it sort of loses sight of itself as a tight pop-rock album.


actually, this is the first time in a long time when i wish he'd put out a double album. or 2 separate ones. to me, all of the material on the album is strong, and he probably had some more strong material to add to it or padd out a second disc... 1 a pop/rock album and the 2nd a soul/r&b/funk album.

but then again, maybe he just happened to pick the 10 good songs this time and everything else was just dire.


i'll take the funk album please 4 $10 at best buy thank u
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #31 posted 08/21/07 8:49am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

babooshleeky said:


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4 those attending multiple shows in london ..they can use their copies of PE as coasters now!!!




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Reply #32 posted 08/21/07 9:05am

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No.
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Reply #33 posted 08/21/07 11:06am

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Hi, I just got my copy of Planet Earth and I quite like it, but I would go along with your comment that tracks 5-7 are weak in comparison to the opening and closing of the album.

Somebody said that it was weak after the first second but I find this too harsh, what were they expecting from it? In comparison to the albums from Emancipation onwards I think it is quite strong, but, as said, the middle part of the album is too similar.
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Reply #34 posted 08/21/07 11:56am

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No I don't agree! (The Album is Solid)
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Reply #35 posted 08/21/07 12:45pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

naw it was ruined from 0:00:01 on the cd ...it let up during guitar and somewhere here on earth but then started back up 2 suck balls





Agreed. Although I do like "Guitar"
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Reply #36 posted 08/21/07 12:58pm

Zink

I think its weak throughout to be honest, nowhere near the quality of music Prince is capable of.

Dissapointed with a capital D was my reaction when I heard it for the first time.
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Reply #37 posted 08/21/07 1:31pm

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sosgemini said:

NouveauDance said:

I like FBM, but together with Mr. Goodnight, they just ruin the flow of the album and sound like they were shoe-horned in to get some R&B radio airplay.


I like Mr. Goodnight but loath FBM yet still agree.

FBM= For all those who complain about folks wanting a Purple Rain 2 - this regurgitated song is for you.


I like both tracks okay, (particularly FBM in terms of songwriting) but they are definitely a case of Prince making sure he "covers all the bases" instead of making an album cohesive.

It's exactly how I felt about Beautiful Loved & Blessed. It's a nice track on its own but it hurts the flow of 3121 as an album.

Actually, same goes for Somewhere Here on Earth. Decent song, beautiful playing, nice vocals, but it's absolutely sleepy and in between two really uptempo songs. When I skip it and go atraight from Guitar to The 1 U Wanna C it makes more sense.

I still rate this album as far more interesting than Musicology & 3121, and more aesthetically pleasing.
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Reply #38 posted 08/21/07 1:45pm

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Personally i think Planet Earth loses momentum with the following songs: Future Baby Mama, Mr. Goodnight and All the midnights in the world.

Future Baby Mama and Mr. Goodnight are dull, boring, calculated songs IMO. They sound as if they are recorded much earlier then the rest of the songs (mid-nineties), and if Prince just took them right out of the Vault.

Personally i like All the Midnights in the world, love the refreshing simpleness of it and it has a nice little melody. But placed right after Future Baby Mama and Mr. Goodnight it weakens the middle part of Planet Earth IMO.

To resume:

The sequence of the first 4 songs works splendidly IMO, then you have the ´dip´ of the forementioned 3 songs, things get ´up´ again then with the catchy Chelsea Rodgers and the lovely Resolution (musically way underrated IMO, apart from the corny lyrics). Lion of Judah is a moody track, and not bad at all, But IMO he should have placed a more direct, anthemic song between Lion of Judah and Resolution (which i consider a nice closer).

What do you think?


quite interesting! i love future baby mama and mr. goodnight. in fact, i find that i'm listening to this collection much more than 3121 after i got it. i actually enjoy all the songs immensely, but am not digging "the 1 u wanna c." just sounds airy. i love Chelsea Rogers...and actually appreciate the lyrics of "Resolution." these are serious times w/ wars and all, and Prince is doing his job by spreading a powerful message of peace.

sorry if i lost the original focus on sequence.
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Reply #39 posted 08/21/07 2:00pm

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Smillan said:

Hi, I just got my copy of Planet Earth and I quite like it, but I would go along with your comment that tracks 5-7 are weak in comparison to the opening and closing of the album.

Somebody said that it was weak after the first second but I find this too harsh, what were they expecting from it? In comparison to the albums from Emancipation onwards I think it is quite strong, but, as said, the middle part of the album is too similar.


4 little letters ...f ....u ...n ....k ...none found on this album at all sad
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Reply #40 posted 08/21/07 2:01pm

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purpleworld said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

naw it was ruined from 0:00:01 on the cd ...it let up during guitar and somewhere here on earth but then started back up 2 suck balls





Agreed. Although I do like "Guitar"


guitar i can dig and somewhere here on earth ..future baby mama drives me crazy due 2 the linn drum sound ..and even mr goodnight bores me ..

i tried liking this album..just can't get in2 it


where the hell is feel good feel better at?
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #41 posted 08/21/07 2:08pm

Illustrator

This album is alot like me.

It's middle part wouldn't be such a weak spot if it would only get off it's ass every once in a while & maybe do a sit-up or two.
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Reply #42 posted 08/21/07 2:20pm

LoveAlive

I agree with what yall are saying to a point...I think the album is very uneven


I think that the album kicks off with the KILLER title track(IMO, the best song on the CD) then drops down to "Guitar." (I only think thats an average song..)then the CD gets stellar again with "Someone here on Earth" and then meanders with the next 4 tracks..then the album knocks us on our tail with "Chelsea Rodgers" and "Lion of Judah" and then whimpers out with "Resolution."
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Reply #43 posted 08/21/07 3:27pm

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Spinlight said:

Cannot stand "Lion of Judah" and "Resolution" sounds very similar to it. For me, this album has 8 tracks.


cha know, i don't hate the two songs but they are kinda filler fodder to me. they are ruined by subpar backing vocals by the twinz and an overall laziness in the arrangements. the songs could be great but in their current mode they are incomplete thoughts at best.


Are you sure it isn't W&L on Judah & Resolution. Sure sounds like them to me.
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Reply #44 posted 08/21/07 3:57pm

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I think FBM is a good track. It sound's like a general 'how to guide' for making a likeable R&B song. Mr Goodnight is another R&B number that is okay. SHOE is pretty. It reminds me of a slow jazzy song you could unwind to. IMO, the album dosen't have a steady flow. It starts out fast, then gets slow ect. I think that is one of the reasons why some ppl who have listened to the album, feel that the R&B dosent fit well on PE. Which they consider to be his " This took 2 damn long" awaited pop rock lp. Individually the songs are great. Blame the execution of the final project.
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Reply #45 posted 08/22/07 3:56pm

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I enjoy Planet Earth as a whole. I did not find any weak spots.
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Reply #46 posted 08/22/07 4:14pm

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MattUK said:

sosgemini said:



cha know, i don't hate the two songs but they are kinda filler fodder to me. they are ruined by subpar backing vocals by the twinz and an overall laziness in the arrangements. the songs could be great but in their current mode they are incomplete thoughts at best.


Are you sure it isn't W&L on Judah & Resolution. Sure sounds like them to me.


its not.
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Reply #47 posted 08/22/07 4:29pm

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hey, even the real planet Earth has "doldrums!"
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Reply #48 posted 08/23/07 7:22am

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I think FBM is a good track. It sound's like a general 'how to guide' for making a likeable R&B song. Mr Goodnight is another R&B number that is okay. SHOE is pretty. It reminds me of a slow jazzy song you could unwind to. IMO, the album dosen't have a steady flow. It starts out fast, then gets slow ect. I think that is one of the reasons why some ppl who have listened to the album, feel that the R&B dosent fit well on PE. Which they consider to be his " This took 2 damn long" awaited pop rock lp. Individually the songs are great. Blame the execution of the final project.


some times I think Prince is so overwhelmed with how much art he has, that he doesn't know where to start. imagine, you have hundreds or thousands of tunes to choose from - and you have to select 10.

but yes, perhaps he needs to choose a vibe he wants to carry and stick to it. then again, the roller coaster of emotions (or lack thereof 2 some) might be or probably is what he wanted listeners to experience.

the messages are deep, and hey - he has the right to decide.
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