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New topic PrintableAstasheiks said: Did King Solomon really have a thousand wives or anywhere close to that many? And if did wouldn't that be breaking one of the 10 commandements: Thou shall not commit adultry???
No, actually King Solomon had 700 wives (princes), and 300 concubines, as 1 kings 11:3 states. | |
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sillyme said: lillybleu said: I have mixed feelings about Prince saying he wants to lead others to the truth, and in order to do that,you have to have the truth of GOD in your heart and your actions. I think Prince feels GOD in his heart, but then he goes up on stage with dancers who he allows to wear dresses that are very suggestive, not to mention their undies showing when the do flips in the dance routines, and supposidly making some sexual suggestive comments or actions with his microphone during his London concerts. How do you lead people to christ when you are saying one thing, but doing another?? I am not juding him, only mearly telling it like it is, as a christian I do not remember reading that Jesus ran around with sexually suggestive women and saying sexaully based things, because he was GOD'S truth, he lead people to the truth. Prince is still on the wrong side of the fence, thinking he can mix sex with christ,it ain't happening, he still does not get it.
I came to the Truth because Prince got me intrigued... I started studying and caught on "fire". As a Jehovah's Witness I must admit that I have seriously mixed emotions regarding Prince. I credit him for drawing my attention to the JW's, but today, as a JW, he is unfortunatly way too comfortable on the edge. Jehovah uses who he choses, no one can denie that Prince IS making the name known (rocknroll Hall of Fame was the "climax") but now, there is no doubt that he is often missrepresenting us, the Jehovah's Witnesses. I love the JW flavored, Truth sizzled songs and I hope they soften the heart of others, like it softened mine, but many other songs and attitudes clash. Not up to us to judge... Regards Jerome Knyszewski Well I have to say I didn't think anyone in the org site would understand what I was saying, I did with much bravery, because unless you have GOD in your life and try to live a chirst centered life this comment of mine could sound as if I am attacking the man or judging, which I realize I have not right to do, only GOD had that right, on judgement day. It is our duties as christians to try to show the way, to those who are lost or those who do not know christ, we also must always be on the look out for the enemy, because he waits like a lion to devour those who are not protected by the blood of christ. Never the less it is nice to see christians on this site who do understand, GOD Bless... | |
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lillybleu said: Well I have to say I didn't think anyone in the org site would understand what I was saying, I did with much bravery, because unless you have GOD in your life and try to live a chirst centered life this comment of mine could sound as if I am attacking the man or judging, which I realize I have not right to do, only GOD had that right, on judgement day. It is our duties as christians to try to show the way, to those who are lost or those who do not know christ, we also must always be on the look out for the enemy, because he waits like a lion to devour those who are not protected by the blood of christ. Never the less it is nice to see christians on this site who do understand, GOD Bless... Can you explain this for me please ? | |
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virginie74 said: lillybleu said: Well I have to say I didn't think anyone in the org site would understand what I was saying, I did with much bravery, because unless you have GOD in your life and try to live a chirst centered life this comment of mine could sound as if I am attacking the man or judging, which I realize I have not right to do, only GOD had that right, on judgement day. It is our duties as christians to try to show the way, to those who are lost or those who do not know christ, we also must always be on the look out for the enemy, because he waits like a lion to devour those who are not protected by the blood of christ. Never the less it is nice to see christians on this site who do understand, GOD Bless... Can you explain this for me please ? it means .. those who do not want to accept Jesus (or those who dont know Him) .. wont be protected from the evils that come upon the world.. | |
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Flowerz said: virginie74 said: Can you explain this for me please ? it means .. those who do not want to accept Jesus (or those who dont know Him) .. wont be protected from the evils that come upon the world.. Yes, exactly.... | |
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lillybleu said: sillyme said: I came to the Truth because Prince got me intrigued... I started studying and caught on "fire". As a Jehovah's Witness I must admit that I have seriously mixed emotions regarding Prince. I credit him for drawing my attention to the JW's, but today, as a JW, he is unfortunatly way too comfortable on the edge. Jehovah uses who he choses, no one can denie that Prince IS making the name known (rocknroll Hall of Fame was the "climax") but now, there is no doubt that he is often missrepresenting us, the Jehovah's Witnesses. I love the JW flavored, Truth sizzled songs and I hope they soften the heart of others, like it softened mine, but many other songs and attitudes clash. Not up to us to judge... Regards Jerome Knyszewski Well I have to say I didn't think anyone in the org site would understand what I was saying, I did with much bravery, because unless you have GOD in your life and try to live a chirst centered life this comment of mine could sound as if I am attacking the man or judging, which I realize I have not right to do, only GOD had that right, on judgement day. It is our duties as christians to try to show the way, to those who are lost or those who do not know christ, we also must always be on the look out for the enemy, because he waits like a lion to devour those who are not protected by the blood of christ. Never the less it is nice to see christians on this site who do understand, GOD Bless... Do you think God and The Bible is hard as it say it is regarding "stabbage" ...that is "fornication"??? Especially for ole brothers like P almost 50 and... | |
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12-14 When my King-Lover lay down beside me,
my fragrance filled the room. His head resting between my breasts— the head of my lover was a sachet of sweet myrrh. My beloved is a bouquet of wildflowers picked just for me from the fields of Engedi. 3-4 As an apricot tree stands out in the forest, my lover stands above the young men in town. All I want is to sit in his shade, to taste and savor his delicious love. He took me home with him for a festive meal, but his eyes feasted on me! 6-7 The sweet, fragrant curves of your body, the soft, spiced contours of your flesh Invite me, and I come. I stay until dawn breathes its light and night slips away. You're beautiful from head to toe, my dear love, beautiful beyond compare, absolutely flawless. Your beauty, within and without, is absolute, dear lover, close companion. You are tall and supple, like the palm tree, and your full breasts are like sweet clusters of dates. I say, "I'm going to climb that palm tree! I'm going to caress its fruit!" Oh yes! Your breasts will be clusters of sweet fruit to me, Your breath clean and cool like fresh mint, your tongue and lips like the best wine. A bit tame by today's standards but I think everybody gets the idea. I wonder where I got those excerpts from. | |
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it means .. those who do not want to accept Jesus (or those who dont know Him) .. wont be protected from the evils that come upon the world.. [/quote]
I must say, I'm pissed. What kind of religious arrogance and overbearance is that? Next thing is: Everyone not believing in Jesus, the scripture or whatever shall be punished by "the evils that come upon the world" or what? According to this: Muslims, buddhists, taoists and especially atheists - consider yourself as unprotected and doomed!! Bullshit I say. Insolance and hubris I say. What we need here is a little ecumenism and tolerance, please. | |
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What do the JWs on this thread think of this from the 3121 site:
3121 Spy Report 2: A Rare Treat Backstage LAST NIGHT WAS A RARE TREAT BACKSTAGE…PRINCE WAS OVERCOME WITH COMPLIMENTS FROM THE BAND AND SECURITY 4 THE PIANO SOLO SECTION! HE MUSTA RIPPED OFF 7 DIFFERENT CLASSIC PURPLE JAMS, INCLUDING NASTY GIRL AND EROTIC CITY. WE DON’T WANNA GIVE 2 MUCH AWAY…MUST B SEEN 2 B BELIEVED. ONE THING TALKED ABOUT WAS THE FACT THAT PRINCE’S PRODUCTIONS HAVE SUCH A UNIQUE FINGERPRINT THAT WHEN ONE OF HIS JOINTS DROP, IT’S INSTANTLY RECOGNIZABLE…SO MUCH SO THAT EVEN PRINCE, HIMSELF WAS RELISHING IN THE MOMENT AS WAS ALL OF US. WICKED, MAN! I started a thread in P&R about a month back and I wish some of the people who are on this thread had replied to my thread. I do appreciate what seems to be honest replies and God knows honest is not popular on here. | |
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Lothan said: I do appreciate what seems to be honest replies and God knows honest is not popular on here.
It's not too popular to stay honest here, especially if you're trying to please anyone. And there's probably lots of misunderstandings and miscommunications on the internet due to lack of voice inflection and body lauguage. Honesty doesn't seem to be very popular anywhere. I just lost my job because I was basically being too honest. My last job of an entirely different nature was lost after exposing the Truth of another nature. Looking for work where it pays to be Honest is a real challenge. [Edited 8/13/07 8:06am] | |
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Lothan said: What do the JWs on this thread think of this from the 3121 site:
3121 Spy Report 2: A Rare Treat Backstage LAST NIGHT WAS A RARE TREAT BACKSTAGE…PRINCE WAS OVERCOME WITH COMPLIMENTS FROM THE BAND AND SECURITY 4 THE PIANO SOLO SECTION! HE MUSTA RIPPED OFF 7 DIFFERENT CLASSIC PURPLE JAMS, INCLUDING NASTY GIRL AND EROTIC CITY. WE DON’T WANNA GIVE 2 MUCH AWAY…MUST B SEEN 2 B BELIEVED. ONE THING TALKED ABOUT WAS THE FACT THAT PRINCE’S PRODUCTIONS HAVE SUCH A UNIQUE FINGERPRINT THAT WHEN ONE OF HIS JOINTS DROP, IT’S INSTANTLY RECOGNIZABLE…SO MUCH SO THAT EVEN PRINCE, HIMSELF WAS RELISHING IN THE MOMENT AS WAS ALL OF US. WICKED, MAN! I started a thread in P&R about a month back and I wish some of the people who are on this thread had replied to my thread. I do appreciate what seems to be honest replies and God knows honest is not popular on here. Im not JW, but yep .. Jesus said 'they hated me, so they will hate you also' .. they killed Jesus for telling the Truth .. so how much more Christians? | |
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Flowerz said: virginie74 said: Can you explain this for me please ? it means .. those who do not want to accept Jesus (or those who dont know Him) .. wont be protected from the evils that come upon the world.. There certainly is freedom in religion, I grew up a deeply religious Roman Catholic and surrounded by friends of different religious backgrounds. It is fascinating to learn about religion and every religion teaches you that their "God" or "Prophet" is superior. You would really have to find your own comfort level in religion and follow it. You do not have to follow it based on fear of threats. | |
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Flowerz said: Lothan said: What do the JWs on this thread think of this from the 3121 site:
3121 Spy Report 2: A Rare Treat Backstage LAST NIGHT WAS A RARE TREAT BACKSTAGE…PRINCE WAS OVERCOME WITH COMPLIMENTS FROM THE BAND AND SECURITY 4 THE PIANO SOLO SECTION! HE MUSTA RIPPED OFF 7 DIFFERENT CLASSIC PURPLE JAMS, INCLUDING NASTY GIRL AND EROTIC CITY. WE DON’T WANNA GIVE 2 MUCH AWAY…MUST B SEEN 2 B BELIEVED. ONE THING TALKED ABOUT WAS THE FACT THAT PRINCE’S PRODUCTIONS HAVE SUCH A UNIQUE FINGERPRINT THAT WHEN ONE OF HIS JOINTS DROP, IT’S INSTANTLY RECOGNIZABLE…SO MUCH SO THAT EVEN PRINCE, HIMSELF WAS RELISHING IN THE MOMENT AS WAS ALL OF US. WICKED, MAN! I started a thread in P&R about a month back and I wish some of the people who are on this thread had replied to my thread. I do appreciate what seems to be honest replies and God knows honest is not popular on here. Im not JW, but yep .. Jesus said 'they hated me, so they will hate you also' .. they killed Jesus for telling the Truth .. so how much more Christians? That is very true, if I really cared what others thought I would not have brought this whole issue up. I believe in honesty and telling the truth no matter the cost, I believe in Jesus, and he gives me the bravery and wisdom to be honest in life. But I also feel others have the right to agree or disagree with spirituality, I am not hear on earth to judge or bible thump anyone, I am only hear to live out my life according to what my lord tell me he wants me to do. Honesty in a mostly dishonest world is never very popular or easy to live out,but rewards of this life style far out weigh any presious things this world could ever offer. | |
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The Press trips me out. It's funny that he says (probably in a joking sense) that he might do a symphony for his next project and they turn it in to a definite. lol 2 much | |
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lillybleu said: I have mixed feelings about Prince saying he wants to lead others to the truth, and in order to do that,you have to have the truth of GOD in your heart and your actions. I think Prince feels GOD in his heart, but then he goes up on stage with dancers who he allows to wear dresses that are very suggestive, not to mention their undies showing when the do flips in the dance routines, and supposidly making some sexual suggestive comments or actions with his microphone during his London concerts. How do you lead people to christ when you are saying one thing, but doing another?? I am not juding him, only mearly telling it like it is, as a christian I do not remember reading that Jesus ran around with sexually suggestive women and saying sexaully based things, because he was GOD'S truth, he lead people to the truth. Prince is still on the wrong side of the fence, thinking he can mix sex with christ,it ain't happening, he still does not get it.
Personally I don't think a love for God and a love of sex are incongruous. True, sex and religion and religious laws are like oil and water, but sex and spirituality aren't opposing entities. The moment we start assigning moral values to basic biological functions, we've got a problem. A problem that, ultimately, leads to all the nonsense and the bullshit and the hysteria surrounding sex in our society today. Everything from burqas to assigned gender roles to differing wages to homophopbia to limited acces to birth control, not to mention countless others, are all a direct result of modern religion assigning moral values to sex. And by extension, placing moral judgements on people. Prince professing to love God and Jesus at the same time he's showing off the Twinz assets and giving the ol' mic stand a couple strokes are not incompatable behaviours. And after all, isn't that what he's always done? The difference is today he's got a specific religion instead of a vague one. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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If a Symphony is on Prince's mind and the creativity & inspiration is flowing through him 4 1... eye Believe he will Create a Beautiful~Amazing 1! He is an Artist. His self expressions r created through his Wonderful Gift of Music in an array of Brilliant colors and Style. Eye could just imagine the lovely~sweet melody he would Dream up! The lovely wood winds...the sweet strings...the amazing brass and percussion! Eye would b 1 who would Love 2 hear a Symphony from Prince's heart | |
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lillybleu said: Flowerz said: Im not JW, but yep .. Jesus said 'they hated me, so they will hate you also' .. they killed Jesus for telling the Truth .. so how much more Christians? That is very true, if I really cared what others thought I would not have brought this whole issue up. I believe in honesty and telling the truth no matter the cost, I believe in Jesus, and he gives me the bravery and wisdom to be honest in life. But I also feel others have the right to agree or disagree with spirituality, I am not hear on earth to judge or bible thump anyone, I am only hear to live out my life according to what my lord tell me he wants me to do. Honesty in a mostly dishonest world is never very popular or easy to live out,but rewards of this life style far out weigh any presious things this world could ever offer. Word | |
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EROTICCITYNPG said:[quote]http://www.lse.co.uk/Show...lical_hero
LIFE STYLE EXTRA (UK) - Prince's hero is King Solomon - because he had a thousand wives. The flamboyant musician, who is a Jehovah's Witness, admires the Biblical figure because of his enormous number of lovers. Prince - who is renowned for his sexually explicit lyrics and penchant for the opposite sex - said in an interview with Giant magazine: "The Bible is like the guidebook to help men and women with their sins. If I'm going to get some advice, wouldn't I want it from Solomon? That man had a thousand wives. I mean, I want to talk to the guy who had a thousand women!" That man has used his "stick" with 1000 wives, this wasn't clean and pure... [Edited 8/14/07 10:03am] We make our own way to heaven everyday
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Solomon learned from the errors of his ways... ever read Ecclesiastes or Proverbs? In there is much wisdom! but Israel is still paying for him getting into the pagan mix of women from all over. | |
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lillybleu said: I have mixed feelings about Prince saying he wants to lead others to the truth, and in order to do that,you have to have the truth of GOD in your heart and your actions. I think Prince feels GOD in his heart, but then he goes up on stage with dancers who he allows to wear dresses that are very suggestive, not to mention their undies showing when the do flips in the dance routines, and supposidly making some sexual suggestive comments or actions with his microphone during his London concerts. How do you lead people to christ when you are saying one thing, but doing another?? I am not juding him, only mearly telling it like it is, as a christian I do not remember reading that Jesus ran around with sexually suggestive women and saying sexaully based things, because he was GOD'S truth, he lead people to the truth. Prince is still on the wrong side of the fence, thinking he can mix sex with christ,it ain't happening, he still does not get it.
I agree with you totally. It seems like Prince needs to get married, have kids and step away from the entertainment world. George Benson is a JW and he's never in the spotlight as far as gossip or anything and his music is great and he's not compromising his belief with his career, from what I've seen. I could be wrong but I'm not judging anyone either. But Prince knows he can't sit on the fence and be lukewarm. He will have to choose to live his life as a true christina or continue to be a hypocrite in the worlds eyes. | |
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aubergine said: "That man had a thousand wives. I mean, I want to talk to the guy who had a thousand women!"
RELAX Prince! You probably have had more women than that, but I wouldn't brag about it, and knowing the guy (even if it is in the Bible) who had a thousand wives, well ... it's not really a selling point to women, but rather quite nasty. Unless nastiness is still all your looking for ... 1000 women... hmmmm, i would NOT like sharing him with 999 other women! | |
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Okay everybody. Enuff is enuff. As u all know, prince has said some things in the past that has been twisted by the media and also he said things 2 stir up some controversy. But if U all remember that he said that after the Planet earth tour, he's going 2 take a break 4 a while and get back in2 the bible 2 learn more. Maybe he feels that there are still some things that he missed. Even we all missed something in the bible and didn't know or even badder that we all know from the bible but we don't learn from it and do all that it commands in the bible 24/7. And I dare any one of U 2 say that U follow the bible 100% cause if U do then I will ask U one question....DO U SIN? Even tho Prince is old enuff 2 say that he reads the bible and all but he is just like us....human and there are things that even Prince don't have a grip on. Remember just because "P"rince begins with "P" don't means he's "P"erfect. He is just like each one of us and everyone makes mistakes. I am not trying 2 defend him or bash him. believe me, I have almost every recording he done and been 2 almost every show he done and still have the Purple Rain "white ruffle shirt" that was on sale at GAP in 84' and more but He is just HUMAN! | |
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ltd022002 said: Okay everybody. Enuff is enuff. As u all know, prince has said some things in the past that has been twisted by the media and also he said things 2 stir up some controversy. But if U all remember that he said that after the Planet earth tour, he's going 2 take a break 4 a while and get back in2 the bible 2 learn more. Maybe he feels that there are still some things that he missed. Even we all missed something in the bible and didn't know or even badder that we all know from the bible but we don't learn from it and do all that it commands in the bible 24/7. And I dare any one of U 2 say that U follow the bible 100% cause if U do then I will ask U one question....DO U SIN? Even tho Prince is old enuff 2 say that he reads the bible and all but he is just like us....human and there are things that even Prince don't have a grip on. Remember just because "P"rince begins with "P" don't means he's "P"erfect. He is just like each one of us and everyone makes mistakes. I am not trying 2 defend him or bash him. believe me, I have almost every recording he done and been 2 almost every show he done and still have the Purple Rain "white ruffle shirt" that was on sale at GAP in 84' and more but He is just HUMAN!
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ltd022002 said: Okay everybody. Enuff is enuff. As u all know, prince has said some things in the past that has been twisted by the media and also he said things 2 stir up some controversy. But if U all remember that he said that after the Planet earth tour, he's going 2 take a break 4 a while and get back in2 the bible 2 learn more. Maybe he feels that there are still some things that he missed. Even we all missed something in the bible and didn't know or even badder that we all know from the bible but we don't learn from it and do all that it commands in the bible 24/7. And I dare any one of U 2 say that U follow the bible 100% cause if U do then I will ask U one question....DO U SIN? Even tho Prince is old enuff 2 say that he reads the bible and all but he is just like us....human and there are things that even Prince don't have a grip on. Remember just because "P"rince begins with "P" don't means he's "P"erfect. He is just like each one of us and everyone makes mistakes. I am not trying 2 defend him or bash him. believe me, I have almost every recording he done and been 2 almost every show he done and still have the Purple Rain "white ruffle shirt" that was on sale at GAP in 84' and more but He is just HUMAN!
That's true Prince is HUMAN!! Being in the spotlight, it's one thing to confess to be something and it's another when you are not living up to it. Yes, we are all sinners and we all sin everyday, but don't confess to be one of Jehovahs Witesses and you are still writing songs with sexual lyrics. Whether people know it or not but Jehovahs Witnesses are most of the most criticized religions where people cannot wait to point out that they are not following bible principles. Whatever Prince is doing or not doing, in the end he is accountable, like the rest of us, to Jehovah God. | |
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God loves Prince unconditionally. | |
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I want a thousand wives.
I'm moving to Utah. | |
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Is it at all possible to believe that there is way too much reading into this rather than a face value interpretation...Maybe just maybe all Prince meant is that he wouldn't wanna hear a thousand female voices saying anything that ranges from, I wanna new purse, to I need a diamond g-string. Prince's position cannot be easy. He is the cake of his own career, and his sugar coated girls are eventually gonna be too much frosting. Because of his personal life..he's probably had to tolerate more than a man should. That is because he is in the palm of the Father, not in the palm of the people he's liked, loved, or will love. [Edited 8/24/07 19:12pm] "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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EROTICCITYNPG said: "I might try a symphony, I might try composing something with flutes.
yay Prince!!!!! finally he's gettin with the flutes I'm a flutist, so I'm excited about that | |
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have a nice day [Edited 1/16/08 18:16pm] | |
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