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Reply #60 posted 08/11/07 8:32am

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ejnbmore said:



I just read something this week about the queen of Sheeba and King Solomon that was very interesting. They had a son and he was known as the Lion of Judah. I'm not that good with history but I starting referring to my youngest as an African Princess and she asked me if there were any real princesses anywhere other than Great Britain. My mission was to educate, but I learned something new too.


where'd u get this? cause surely that's not in the Bible ..


It was on the internet....The flag of Ethiopia even has the lion's crest on it. Tradition has it that Solomon wanted Makeda's son Menelik to stay in Jerusalem after his first visit as an adult as his heir but he refused, so Solomon requested the first born sons of Solomon's advisors and officers to go back with him.And they agreed to do so. Menelik asked his father for a relic of the Ark of the Covenant to take back with him to the land of Sheba. It is said that while Solomon intended to provide his son with a relic, the sons of the counselors, angry at having to leave their homes and go to Sheba with Menelik, actually stole the real Ark and took it to Ethiopia. Menelik returned to Sheba and, according to tradition, ruled wisely and well. And his famous line has continued down to the 20th century when, even now, the ruler of Ethiopia is the "conquering lion of Judah" descended directly from King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba.

Haille Selasse is said to be the end of the line.

See also:http://www.swagga.com/queen.htm#makeda
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Reply #62 posted 08/11/07 10:44am

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i would like 1000 wives for a couple of years. an then go back an select the best one ... or maybe 3 .. lol
whenever i want to hear some new music ...i make some - prince '99'
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Reply #63 posted 08/11/07 10:53am

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prince proberly been with a hell of alot more women than 99.9% of men have . so cant see him feeling the need to wanna keep going ..but the fact he has been married for so long . might have woke up the admiration . people always want what they aint got ..I dont think that they is anything wrong in 1000 women . it is a natural male instinct after all . but its 1000 wives is a bit wrong .. you cant really give much of yourself too someone or appreciate each person to a higher level if u have 1000 wives ... there still will only be one main one
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Reply #64 posted 08/11/07 11:06am

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Astasheiks said:

Did King Solomon really have a thousand wives or anywhere close to that many? And if did wouldn't that be breaking one of the 10 commandements: Thou shall not commit adultry???

He did have that many wives. But I believe this was in the old testament. Which means the law wasn't written yet


The 10 commandments were given to Moses in Exodus which is the second book of the bible which is in the Old Testament...
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Reply #65 posted 08/11/07 11:15am

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wow, what a dishonest interpretation of what he said. Prince did not say he admires him because he had 1000 wives, which is attempting to present Prince's admiration being dependent upon his bulk of lovers. Prince said if he was going to get advice from someone, it would be from someone who had 1000 wives, which could be for a plethora of things, not simply sexual conquests. advice in no way equates to hero.

I don't know what is more shocking, the dishonesty of the reporter or the fact that none of you were able to catch it.


Wow dumbass if I may call u that, the shocking thing to me is the fact that u obviously missed my post if u think "none" of us were able to catch it. I specifically stated how Solomon was viewed in the Bible as the wisest man to ever live and the fact that the interviewer thought he was P's hero because of his wives but maybe u didn't catch that. However the mere fact that P even mentioned Solomon's wives instead of his wisdom probably lead the interviewer to that opinion.. Perhaps he should have said something about Solomon's wisdom so the interviewer couldn't get it twisted if he wanted to. Either way its not that serious Solomon had many wives and P on the other hand hasn't he's only had 2. But who's counting? At the end of the day as long as P keeps making music thats all that matters to me because who he smashes doesn't make me itch...
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Reply #66 posted 08/11/07 11:22am

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WOW...this is a 1st...1St!!!!



he's truly one of a kind. I want to be one of those wives...
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Reply #67 posted 08/11/07 11:35am

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adorable2 said:

DanceWme said:


He did have that many wives. But I believe this was in the old testament. Which means the law wasn't written yet


The 10 commandments were given to Moses in Exodus which is the second book of the bible which is in the Old Testament...

Yes. I was tweakin'..lol. I realized that now, thanks.
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Reply #68 posted 08/11/07 12:43pm

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1000 wives sign up here smile
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Reply #69 posted 08/11/07 4:08pm

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thumbs up! SILLYME touched





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Reply #70 posted 08/11/07 5:59pm

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OperatingThetan said:

sillyme said:



I came to the Truth because Prince got me intrigued... I started studying and caught on "fire".

As a Jehovah's Witness I must admit that I have seriously mixed emotions regarding Prince.

I credit him for drawing my attention to the JW's, but today, as a JW, he is unfortunatly way too comfortable on the edge.

Jehovah uses who he choses, no one can denie that Prince IS making the name known (rocknroll Hall of Fame was the "climax") but now, there is no doubt that he is often missrepresenting us, the Jehovah's Witnesses.

I love the JW flavored, Truth sizzled songs and I hope they soften the heart of others, like it softened mine, but many other songs and attitudes clash.

Not up to us to judge...

Regards
Jerome Knyszewski


I'm glad you are so honest and open and admit that there is a definite 'clash' of attitudes.

I congratulate your sincerity because so many JW's here will not admit there is a conflict when there blatantly is.

I studied with JW's and was an Unbaptized Publisher for 6 years so I KNOW there is a conflict of interest. I'm not studying now for various reasons, but I'm welcome back if I so chose.

I love the guy and this is NOT a criticism but Prince is way to close to the 'edge' for a Baptiized Jehovah's Witness in many respects. When I saw the Twins groins spread out in silver knickers completely exposed about 5 times during a recent London concert I realised just how true this was ... .

Again, this is not a problem for a non-JW, but it is for one of Jehovah's Witnesses.


Furthermore, I believe Christains and JW's share the same belief of having sex outside of marriage. But then again maybe brotherman is celibate since divorcing Mani. smile
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Reply #71 posted 08/11/07 10:25pm

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Reply #72 posted 08/11/07 11:11pm

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Astasheiks said:

Did King Solomon really have a thousand wives or anywhere close to that many? And if did wouldn't that be breaking one of the 10 commandements: Thou shall not commit adultry???


700 wives .. 300 concubines


DanceWme said:

He did have that many wives. But I believe this was in the old testament. Which means the law wasn't written yet


..Moses gave the law, but it was taken out of context..
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Reply #73 posted 08/11/07 11:15pm

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sillyme said:

OperatingThetan said:



I'm glad you are so honest and open and admit that there is a definite 'clash' of attitudes.

I congratulate your sincerity because so many JW's here will not admit there is a conflict when there blatantly is.

I studied with JW's and was an Unbaptized Publisher for 6 years so I KNOW there is a conflict of interest. I'm not studying now for various reasons, but I'm welcome back if I so chose.

I love the guy and this is NOT a criticism but Prince is way to close to the 'edge' for a Baptiized Jehovah's Witness in many respects. When I saw the Twins groins spread out in silver knickers completely exposed about 5 times during a recent London concert I realised just how true this was ... .

Again, this is not a problem for a non-JW, but it is for one of Jehovah's Witnesses.


U know "gotta bend in the wind but don't break" is true for many a thing in Life, but exposing Urself to the huricanes of temptations and thinking we'll "bend and not break" is taking the "Earth's hardest working Spirit creature" Satan the devil for a wet noodle.

He WILL snap anyone who is not humble. Prince is NO expetion.

"Matthew 5:5 says" (Jesus says)... U know the words.

Musicology tour was musicaly SO powerful and yet very """chaste""" (I can hear Orgers flip out on that word! ha ha)

What we see now with the new band and crew, is NOT halfway to the JW's (Jesus')standarts!

He claims to be a Baptized JW, which gives us the right and duty to point fingers and frown.

He knows it, he agreed to it before he got dunked in the pool wink

Trivializing and justifying his swaying away is NOT loving him the way he wanted to be loved by his Brothers and Sisters when he got baptized.

If he doesn't want it anymore, then stop claiming being a Jehovah's Witness.

U cannot slave for two Masters.



sillyme...you have my respect. Your post was very refreshing and true.
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Reply #74 posted 08/11/07 11:27pm

Flowerz

ejnbmore said:

Flowerz said:



where'd u get this? cause surely that's not in the Bible ..


It was on the internet....The flag of Ethiopia even has the lion's crest on it. Tradition has it that Solomon wanted Makeda's son Menelik to stay in Jerusalem after his first visit as an adult as his heir but he refused, so Solomon requested the first born sons of Solomon's advisors and officers to go back with him.And they agreed to do so. Menelik asked his father for a relic of the Ark of the Covenant to take back with him to the land of Sheba. It is said that while Solomon intended to provide his son with a relic, the sons of the counselors, angry at having to leave their homes and go to Sheba with Menelik, actually stole the real Ark and took it to Ethiopia. Menelik returned to Sheba and, according to tradition, ruled wisely and well. And his famous line has continued down to the 20th century when, even now, the ruler of Ethiopia is the "conquering lion of Judah" descended directly from King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba.

Haille Selasse is said to be the end of the line.

See also:http://www.swagga.com/queen.htm#makeda


that's Ethiopian traditions .. but in Christianity.. the Lion of Judah is Jesus.. cause He is the King of the Jews ..
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Reply #75 posted 08/12/07 12:18am

sillyme

Alrighty, let's clarify a few items, if I may smile

Solomon, without a doubt knew and understood God’s Law, as it was recorded by Moses long before his time and he was the wisest man out there. (Exodus 20:2-22)

Besides the "10 commandements" there were many precise instructions directed to the ones who would become the ruling kings of Israel.

Among those instructions was one stated: “[The king] should also not multiply wives for himself, that his heart may not turn aside.” (Deuteronomy 17:14, 17)

Despite the clear instruction, Solomon got himself 700 wives and 300 concubines. (waaaaay too many headaches!!!!)

Many of these women worshiped "other" gods.

There is no indications in the Scriptures why Solomon took so way too many wives, nor do we know how he justified doing so.

Regarless, these are trivia details when we keep in mind that Solomon failed to obey God’s clear direction.

The outcome was exactly what God (YHVH, Jehovah) had warned it would be:

“[Solomon’s] wives gradually . . . inclined his heart to follow other gods.” (1 Kings 11:3, 4)

“Gradually”—but surely—his godly wisdom faded. He drifted away (I hope our Prince doesn't follow his "favorite King's" fate!!).

Eventually, Solomon’s desire to please his pagan wives withered his desire to obey and please God (YHVH, Jehovah, Heavenly Father who's name must be hallowed wink Father of Jesus).

Earlier on, Solomon inspired by godly wisdom wrote: “Be wise, my son, and make my heart rejoice, that I may make a reply to him that is taunting me”!—Proverbs 27:11.

Sad, Sad, Sad story...

Solomon did NOT endure until the end... sad

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Reply #76 posted 08/12/07 12:27am

morningsong

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Alrighty, let's clarify a few items, if I may smile

Solomon, without a doubt knew and understood God’s Law, as it was recorded by Moses long before his time and he was the wisest man out there. (Exodus 20:2-22)

Besides the "10 commandements" there were many precise instructions directed to the ones who would become the ruling kings of Israel.

Among those instructions was one stated: “[The king] should also not multiply wives for himself, that his heart may not turn aside.” (Deuteronomy 17:14, 17)

Despite the clear instruction, Solomon got himself 700 wives and 300 concubines. (waaaaay too many headaches!!!!)

Many of these women worshiped "other" gods.

There is no indications in the Scriptures why Solomon took so way too many wives, nor do we know how he justified doing so.

Regarless, these are trivia details when we keep in mind that Solomon failed to obey God’s clear direction.

The outcome was exactly what God (YHVH, Jehovah) had warned it would be:

“[Solomon’s] wives gradually . . . inclined his heart to follow other gods.” (1 Kings 11:3, 4)

“Gradually”—but surely—his godly wisdom faded. He drifted away (I hope our Prince doesn't follow his "favorite King's" fate!!).

Eventually, Solomon’s desire to please his pagan wives withered his desire to obey and please God (YHVH, Jehovah, Heavenly Father who's name must be hallowed wink Father of Jesus).

Earlier on, Solomon inspired by godly wisdom wrote: “Be wise, my son, and make my heart rejoice, that I may make a reply to him that is taunting me”!—Proverbs 27:11.

Sad, Sad, Sad story...

Solomon did NOT endure until the end... sad

Regards
Jerome knyszewski


Did you read the article on the full interview? Or are you baseing all this opinion on a small snippet that's been reconstructed from the interview. If you haven't I suggest you read it. It's posted in it's entirety on this board, it's the "Giant" article.
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Reply #77 posted 08/12/07 12:28am

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OperatingThetan, noimageatall, RosesRred and whoever else read the posts.

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Reply #78 posted 08/12/07 12:31am

morningsong

The posts are very opinionated to say the least.
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Reply #79 posted 08/12/07 12:36am

sillyme

morningsong said: Did you read the article on the full interview? Or are you baseing all this opinion on a small snippet that's been reconstructed from the interview. If you haven't I suggest you read it. It's posted in it's entirety on this board, it's the "Giant" article.


There is no opinion in my post regarding King Solomon's withering away, it is only scriptural fact.

I just am hoping that Prince does not drift away. I am pretty sure that he (Prince) doesn't strive to go chick mad and pick up every other Qt he comes across!

Unfortunatly there are thousands of ways that one's Faith, Zeal and Love for God can wilt away, cool off, shrink back, women was Solomon's weakness, I hope Prince doesn't think he is immune to Satan's temptations. (Regarless of the form, flavor, shape, size and number they may be presented to him)

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Reply #80 posted 08/12/07 12:42am

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The posts are very opinionated to say the least.


The very reason I put ALL scriptural references as I dig into the topic so that anyone can look them up so that nothing comes accross as Jerome's -Sillyme- opinion as much as what has been recorded in the Bible for our benefit.

(All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.(2 Tim. 3:16, 17)

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Reply #81 posted 08/12/07 12:51am

morningsong

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morningsong said:

The posts are very opinionated to say the least.


The very reason I put ALL scriptural references as I dig into the topic so that anyone can look them up so that nothing comes accross as Jerome's -Sillyme- opinion as much as what has been recorded in the Bible for our benefit.

(All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.(2 Tim. 3:16, 17)

smile


This is not my place, but since there doesn't seem to be any JWs in this section of the Org, if you're interested that there are plenty in the P&R section of the Org.
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Reply #82 posted 08/12/07 2:05am

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sillyme said:



The very reason I put ALL scriptural references as I dig into the topic so that anyone can look them up so that nothing comes accross as Jerome's -Sillyme- opinion as much as what has been recorded in the Bible for our benefit.

(All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.(2 Tim. 3:16, 17)

smile


This is not my place, but since there doesn't seem to be any JWs in this section of the Org, if you're interested that there are plenty in the P&R section of the Org.


He is free to post here whether he is a JW or not. I'm sure JW's are not restricted to the P&R forum.

Of course the posts here are opinionated. It is a discussion based on peoples differing opinions.

However, if like me, you were actually recently involved with JW's for 6 years and know their standards personally, and if like Sillyme you are a baptized Jehovah's Witness, these opinions would be educated wouldn't they?

I don't say that there is a conflict for a 'laugh' or because I want to 'stir' things up. I say it because there actually is one.
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Reply #83 posted 08/12/07 2:26am

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Didn't Salomon write the most erotic song for God (and we're not even sure, he might have wrote it for his Lady), which became the Song of the Song ? I'm sorry to say but we are all humans and our body is our tool, to perceive and exdpress our love or not. Some might think we r sinful but I don't like this vision. In my religion people have to stay humble but it doesn't mean to be ass-tighted. Don't use (your) religion to justify your own fears.

We also say that between a husband and his wife stands God.


I strongly believe there IS something to discover in Ethiopia, but I've never been there. I just learnt something very interesting lately : in hebrew Levia is a lion female, like the duty of Levis r to serve the Priests (as anybody cares) lol peace
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Reply #84 posted 08/12/07 2:50am

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morningsong said:



This is not my place, but since there doesn't seem to be any JWs in this section of the Org, if you're interested that there are plenty in the P&R section of the Org.


He is free to post here whether he is a JW or not. I'm sure JW's are not restricted to the P&R forum.

Of course the posts here are opinionated. It is a discussion based on peoples differing opinions.

However, if like me, you were actually recently involved with JW's for 6 years and know their standards personally, and if like Sillyme you are a baptized Jehovah's Witness, these opinions would be educated wouldn't they?

I don't say that there is a conflict for a 'laugh' or because I want to 'stir' things up. I say it because there actually is one.



I feel ya' comfort
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Reply #85 posted 08/12/07 2:52am

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Didn't Salomon write the most erotic song for God (and we're not even sure, he might have wrote it for his Lady), which became the Song of the Song ? I'm sorry to say but we are all humans and our body is our tool, to perceive and exdpress our love or not. Some might think we r sinful but I don't like this vision. In my religion people have to stay humble but it doesn't mean to be ass-tighted. Don't use (your) religion to justify your own fears.

We also say that between a husband and his wife stands God.


I strongly believe there IS something to discover in Ethiopia, but I've never been there. I just learnt something very interesting lately : in hebrew Levia is a lion female, like the duty of Levis r to serve the Priests (as anybody cares) lol peace


So you'd find it freeing to be wife #237 or #622, in a harem? Somehow one and only seems to work for me.
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Reply #86 posted 08/12/07 3:04am

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virginie74 said:

Didn't Salomon write the most erotic song for God (and we're not even sure, he might have wrote it for his Lady), which became the Song of the Song ? I'm sorry to say but we are all humans and our body is our tool, to perceive and exdpress our love or not. Some might think we r sinful but I don't like this vision. In my religion people have to stay humble but it doesn't mean to be ass-tighted. Don't use (your) religion to justify your own fears.

We also say that between a husband and his wife stands God.


I strongly believe there IS something to discover in Ethiopia, but I've never been there. I just learnt something very interesting lately : in hebrew Levia is a lion female, like the duty of Levis r to serve the Priests (as anybody cares) lol peace


So you'd find it freeing to be wife #237 or #622, in a harem? Somehow one and only seems to work for me.


I don't think Queen of Sebah was one to share.
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Reply #87 posted 08/12/07 3:13am

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morningsong said:



So you'd find it freeing to be wife #237 or #622, in a harem? Somehow one and only seems to work for me.


I don't think Queen of Sebah was one to share.


Must not of been, but then she wasn't a wife. She came saw if the rumors were true, they exchanged gifts, she went home, I guess there were some in-between stuff, but she was pretty self-sufficient and had her own so she moved on. But anyways seeing as there would only be one Queen Sheba, that pretty much leaves all the others out in the cold.

Oh yeah that reminds me, it was King Solomon that said he's only met one virtuous man, but not one virtuous woman, so I don't think she left all that great of an impression, even at being one over a thousand. Why that's important I don't know, it's late.
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Reply #88 posted 08/12/07 3:19am

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morningsong said:

virginie74 said:



I don't think Queen of Sebah was one to share.


Must not of been, but then she wasn't a wife. She came saw if the rumors were true, they exchanged gifts, she went home, I guess there were some in-between stuff, but she was pretty self-sufficient and had her own so she moved on. But anyways seeing as there would only be one Queen Sheba, that pretty much leaves all the others out in the cold.


Sure. But being a King's wife or concubine wasn't bad for these girls either, on a social way. Anyway her nation became jew, so she converted and was married to him imo, and ethiopian jews, now in Israel, are still following their traditions. She had a kingdom to rule too. Sad story, but defenetly true love. And big pride on both sides lol
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Reply #89 posted 08/12/07 3:44am

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virginie74 said:

morningsong said:



Must not of been, but then she wasn't a wife. She came saw if the rumors were true, they exchanged gifts, she went home, I guess there were some in-between stuff, but she was pretty self-sufficient and had her own so she moved on. But anyways seeing as there would only be one Queen Sheba, that pretty much leaves all the others out in the cold.


Sure. But being a King's wife or concubine wasn't bad for these girls either, on a social way. Anyway her nation became jew, so she converted and was married to him imo, and ethiopian jews, now in Israel, are still following their traditions. She had a kingdom to rule too. Sad story, but defenetly true love. And big pride on both sides lol


lol Being wife to an extremely wealthy man who's not stingy ain't never bad, but still having a bunch of other women having some kind of rule over you still stinks and that's the way it worked back then.

There some contention between the whole Solomon/Sheba thing that I'm not too up on, from what I understand it went down hill for Solomon and Israel afterwards, but that's neither here nor there he should have kept his mind on business.
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