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Reply #30 posted 09/30/02 9:43am

IceNine

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Shorty said:

madhouseman said:

Yes, in 10 years, I predict that the TRC CD will be used as a very popular beverage coaster by those 50,000 fans who purchased it.

I've seen the future and it will be.


your prediction is wrong already...cause I am part of that 50,000 and I for ONE wouldn't use any CD as a coaster espescially a Prince CD...I mean c'mon...who really would?
silly boy.


You might very well use "1999: The New Master" as a coaster if you haven't already used it as an ice scraper during a winter storm.

:LOL:
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Reply #31 posted 09/30/02 9:51am

Thecherryloon

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madhouseman said:

Yes, in 10 years, I predict that the TRC CD will be used as a very popular beverage coaster by those 50,000 fans who purchased it.

I've seen the future and it will be.

Clever one aren't you? bored


Obviously not.

I hate smarmy, sarcastic, negative posts.

oh, and get your figures right.last i heard it was twice that in the US.you can double that for the rest of the world.

go and criticise some music that deserves it.Nobody has ever heard an album like TRC.

Again, Prince cannot be categorised musically, that's why he has always had my respect.
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Reply #32 posted 09/30/02 9:57am

Shorty

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IceNine said:

Shorty said:

madhouseman said:

Yes, in 10 years, I predict that the TRC CD will be used as a very popular beverage coaster by those 50,000 fans who purchased it.

I've seen the future and it will be.


your prediction is wrong already...cause I am part of that 50,000 and I for ONE wouldn't use any CD as a coaster espescially a Prince CD...I mean c'mon...who really would?
silly boy.


You might very well use "1999: The New Master" as a coaster if you haven't already used it as an ice scraper during a winter storm.

:LOL:

nope...not even that one would become a coaster...shit...if I paid for a barry manilow CD(which I wouldn't) but if I did...I wouldn't even use that as a coaster...but I would use madhousemans CD as a coaster...if he had one..that is.
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"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #33 posted 09/30/02 10:02am

CherrieMoonKis
ses

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Absolutely heart The Rainbow Children.
And Y shouldnt that album B heart?
pssst Ian...I also heart "Rave" nod
peace & wildsign
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Reply #34 posted 09/30/02 10:12am

jthad1129

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Hopefully it will end up at the dollar store where it belongs and I get a whole set of coasters. So the sales will go up he should buy all there is and just throw them into the audience on the recent tour.
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Reply #35 posted 09/30/02 11:08am

TheBluePrince

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disbelief
Blue music
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Reply #36 posted 09/30/02 11:11am

PlastikLuvAffa
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not only that, trc would look awesome as a piece of a collage, u know...horns
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Reply #37 posted 09/30/02 12:10pm

Farfunknugin

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with the bob george narration i can't throw the cd far enough.. without, it's a worthy addition to the collection.As far as Rave the remix addition plays much better as most club members will attest. His promotion sucked big time. release a video like tgres 2mos before the albums out, do an appearance on the lowest rated morning show ie. bryant gumbles sorry shite, then rush off to europe to do a slew of tv appearances. He's burned so many bridges here i think he's scared to try & promote here in the US. waddaya'll think?
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Reply #38 posted 09/30/02 12:47pm

DorianGray

Farfunknugin said:"waddaya'll think?"


I think it's decidedly odd & more than a little ironic that an album, which closes with an unifying sentiment exhorting us 2 "come 2gether as 1", should b the root of so much division amongst the diehard support.

And it's not just the lyrics/narrator either, is it? There really r a substancial no. of u out there expressing ur heartfelt opinion that musically TRC is piss-poor.confuse

It's not even as if it represents a radical departure 4 him. "1+1+1=3" is reminiscent of "Erotic City", the sweet "She Loves Me 4 Me" stylistically seems 2 echo songs like "Dinner with Delores" & "She Spoke 2 Me","The Work" is another JB pastiche,"Family Name" harks back 2 sly("Asphalt Jungle") & the last 2 tracks evoke memories of the closing "Purple Rain" 1/2 (ie."Baby,i'm a Star/Purple Rain").

Ok, so there's a fair chunk of jazz-inflected music but that's hardly new 4 Prince either. Neither 4 that matter is the overtly spiritual theme of the album(Lovesexy ring any bells?).

I suppose this is where i should duck,right?
Dorian brick
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Reply #39 posted 09/30/02 3:02pm

dawn74

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TRC... hmmm. I like The rainbow children en The work very much. But I just love it when he does a James-ish song. I So I really dig Pretty man, for instance. The rest of Rave, bfff. Exodus, wow! But the rest of Exodus, bfff. The rest of Chaos and Disorder (but chaos and disorder)... and.. ehm...Not all the music on Emancipation is really good either...

To wich song are u still listening on Gold but Billy Jack Bich?

To wich song are u still listening on Crystal Ball but Crystal Ball?
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Reply #40 posted 09/30/02 3:04pm

joecoco

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rdhull said:

joecoco said:

BluePrince I totally agree with you.
I really do not understand the position of all the quotes here. On one hand we say that Rave and NPS, etc. are coasters on the other hand a complete contrary work like TRC is supposed to be used as a coaster as well. What exactly is wrong with TRC?
The lyrics? Ok, I can follow that argument for a while. I don't like the idea of reading the bible to understand all the rainbow children stuff and this and that. But I can easily relax and let the music flow. That album is the best since years. Here his genius is revealed once more.

If you are more into the charts go ahead and buy some Mariah, Britney, NSYNC... (that all is called music, but in fact it is a product designed according to market trends and promoted by marketing people). That is not what I am looking for. To use a known term: I want "real music, by real musicians", if you get my meaning. So to my understanding TRC is just a masterpiece.

For those who did not read the signs: The time of putting an album that will top the charts are over!!!
But who cares??


WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THE REAL JOEYCOCO??!!!


What exactly is real? Remember you are still stuck in the Matrix...
Joeycoco took some days off while touring through Europe smile
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Reply #41 posted 09/30/02 3:11pm

ian

It's about economics:

As long as people like AOL insist on making every person on the planet possess at least 5 copies of the AOL CD at any given moment, using cunning techniques such as putting in with your breakfast cereal, breaking into your house and leaving it under your pillow, and including it free with anything you can buy, anywhere... there will always be a cheaper option. Using TRC as a coaster would be a bad deal - TRC is not a cheap CD, so there are better and far more economical ways for you to protect your furniture from your hot beverages.

Anyway I CAN see the future, and I see your offspring having more taste in music than you. So hang on to your copy of TRC a bit longer, eventually some of you haters will appreciate it biggrin
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Reply #42 posted 09/30/02 6:35pm

rdhull

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joecoco said:

rdhull said:

joecoco said:

BluePrince I totally agree with you.
I really do not understand the position of all the quotes here. On one hand we say that Rave and NPS, etc. are coasters on the other hand a complete contrary work like TRC is supposed to be used as a coaster as well. What exactly is wrong with TRC?
The lyrics? Ok, I can follow that argument for a while. I don't like the idea of reading the bible to understand all the rainbow children stuff and this and that. But I can easily relax and let the music flow. That album is the best since years. Here his genius is revealed once more.

If you are more into the charts go ahead and buy some Mariah, Britney, NSYNC... (that all is called music, but in fact it is a product designed according to market trends and promoted by marketing people). That is not what I am looking for. To use a known term: I want "real music, by real musicians", if you get my meaning. So to my understanding TRC is just a masterpiece.

For those who did not read the signs: The time of putting an album that will top the charts are over!!!
But who cares??


WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THE REAL JOEYCOCO??!!!


What exactly is real? Remember you are still stuck in the Matrix...
Joeycoco took some days off while touring through Europe smile


I aint in no matrix..Im morphe-fuckin-us..and you arent "joey" but joe..phew. I thought I was in the Twilight Zone for a minute.
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #43 posted 09/30/02 8:28pm

DMSR

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DorianGray said:

Farfunknugin said:"waddaya'll think?"


I think it's decidedly odd & more than a little ironic that an album, which closes with an unifying sentiment exhorting us 2 "come 2gether as 1", should b the root of so much division amongst the diehard support.

And it's not just the lyrics/narrator either, is it? There really r a substancial no. of u out there expressing ur heartfelt opinion that musically TRC is piss-poor.confuse

It's not even as if it represents a radical departure 4 him. "1+1+1=3" is reminiscent of "Erotic City", the sweet "She Loves Me 4 Me" stylistically seems 2 echo songs like "Dinner with Delores" & "She Spoke 2 Me","The Work" is another JB pastiche,"Family Name" harks back 2 sly("Asphalt Jungle") & the last 2 tracks evoke memories of the closing "Purple Rain" 1/2 (ie."Baby,i'm a Star/Purple Rain").

Ok, so there's a fair chunk of jazz-inflected music but that's hardly new 4 Prince either. Neither 4 that matter is the overtly spiritual theme of the album(Lovesexy ring any bells?).

I suppose this is where i should duck,right?
Dorian brick


You forgot to mention the MUZAK stylings of Najee and those damn background singers from the 700 club!
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Reply #44 posted 09/30/02 8:44pm

TheBluePrince

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DorianGray said:

Farfunknugin said:"waddaya'll think?"


I think it's decidedly odd & more than a little ironic that an album, which closes with an unifying sentiment exhorting us 2 "come 2gether as 1", should b the root of so much division amongst the diehard support.

And it's not just the lyrics/narrator either, is it? There really r a substancial no. of u out there expressing ur heartfelt opinion that musically TRC is piss-poor.confuse

It's not even as if it represents a radical departure 4 him. "1+1+1=3" is reminiscent of "Erotic City", the sweet "She Loves Me 4 Me" stylistically seems 2 echo songs like "Dinner with Delores" & "She Spoke 2 Me","The Work" is another JB pastiche,"Family Name" harks back 2 sly("Asphalt Jungle") & the last 2 tracks evoke memories of the closing "Purple Rain" 1/2 (ie."Baby,i'm a Star/Purple Rain").

Ok, so there's a fair chunk of jazz-inflected music but that's hardly new 4 Prince either. Neither 4 that matter is the overtly spiritual theme of the album(Lovesexy ring any bells?).

I suppose this is where i should duck,right?
Dorian brick


I couldn't have put a better way mayself nod

Blue music <---TRC
Blue music
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Reply #45 posted 09/30/02 8:59pm

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DMSR said:

You forgot to mention the MUZAK stylings of Najee and those damn background singers from the 700 club!

The 700 club singers never had nearly that much soul.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #46 posted 10/01/02 12:04am

Novabreaker

madhouseman said:

More importantly, is it my job to entertain you? Since you like TRC, you must be easy to entertain!


You bet! I just got off watching VIP reruns on telly. With overdubs in German! Very entertaining.

... awh, back to the point. What was it I was supposed to say?

Oh now I remember:

Wanker.
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Reply #47 posted 10/01/02 12:49am

garganta

TRC might be flawed but it still manages to move me, to amaze me with so many moments of absolute beauty.

There is a lot of talent displayed on this album and I am glad I am able to appreciate it. It is not a perfect album, of course not, but who needs perfection anyway?
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Reply #48 posted 10/01/02 1:25am

Mr7

ian said:

Ah this thread won't do well... TRC is very popular with the fans you know! If you're gonna poke fun at an album, choose an easy target like Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic biggrin

TRC is fucking marvellous.


Ditto !!!
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Reply #49 posted 10/01/02 8:22am

Dippydippydope

Thecherryloon said:


I hate smarmy, sarcastic, negative posts.

So do I usually! lol.

oh, and get your figures right.last i heard it was twice that in the US.you can double that for the rest of the world.

Oh boy! Twice as much. That is 100,000 copies. Wow. Amazing.

go and criticise some music that deserves it.Nobody has ever heard an album like TRC.

I agree. Nobody has heard an album like TRC... except for the 100,000 fans you mentioned earlier.

Again, Prince cannot be categorised musically, that's why he has always had my respect.


I never said he didn't have my respect, he just doesn't have the fans.

Oh, and those who said this post wouldn't get attention were so wrong!
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Reply #50 posted 10/01/02 9:17am

yamomma

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ian said:


Anyway I CAN see the future, and I see your offspring having more taste in music than you.


Smack!

Whoah!

Ouch!
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Reply #51 posted 10/01/02 7:25pm

madhouseman

Thank you all for participating in this experiment. About half of you like the album and the other half don't. That means (using the calculations from some of you), that about 100,000 to 150,000 hardcore fans enjoy the album.

If that is considered good, then more power to you. If that seems like a dip in the quality of his work, then maybe he'll come up with something cool in an album or two.

One thing you can say about Prince, is if you don't like his style today, wait until tonight.

TRC, here today, gone today.
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Reply #52 posted 10/01/02 8:03pm

17Daze

Most expensive coaster I've ever purchased...
Other Usage:
Midget Frisbee, Chalkboard scratcher, Butter slicer, Skeet Shoot Target, Garden Guardian "scare away the crows", Hip new jewery, Golf Hole Cover, How to ruin your career demo disc, "Where's the Funk?"wink
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Reply #53 posted 10/02/02 2:45am

bkk1981

Dippydippydope said:

AzureStar said:

At first I didn't mind it, but now I really don't care for it. It's lacking something... it just feels wrong to me...


Azure Star is right. It does feel wrong. Yes there are a few fans who liked it, but obviously not enough to make a dent in any sales charts or radio charts. The album will be seen as an extremely flawed attempt and never as a classic. I congratulate those of you who like it, but there is nothing that you could say that would prove it to be otherwise.

Now, how many of you actually bought it rather than kept your copy from NPGMC? Hmmm?



I love TRC. It's an album for musicians. U either get it or u don't. U, my friend, obviously don't. I'm sure that among fans with a wide range of great music in their CD collections it is regarded very highly for one reason. It's brilliant.

pray
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Reply #54 posted 10/02/02 5:17am

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TRC is excellent in parts, boring as hell in others. It has 3 great tracks (Last December, Digital Garden, Sensual Everafter), a couple of funky, enjoyable jams (Everywhere, Family Name, She Loves Me 4 Me, Everlasting Now) and some truly boring shit (Mellow, Muse 2 The Pharao). Overall, far from his best, but definately no coaster. Some of you are very extreme, it's either 'the best thing he's ever done' or a 'coaster'. Personally, I think it's cool, a little annoying in parts (I hate having to listen to those stupid soundbites at the beginning of Family Name when all I want is the funk!).
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Reply #55 posted 10/02/02 8:50am

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I liked it at first, but I really
don't play it much anymore. Iv'e already
spokenup on my peeves: the narrator and
"Wedding Feast", the single track indexing. Minor
items to fams, but enough of an issue
with me to disregard its strengths.

fro

Currently listening to:

THE WORD featuring John Medeski, North Mississippi All-Stars & Robert Randolph,

FRONT END LIFTER - Yohimbe Brothers (DJ Logic & Vernon Reid),

VIDA BLUE - Page McConnell, Oteil Burbridge & Russell Batiste

THE BRIDGE - Karl Denson's Tiny Universe

music
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Reply #56 posted 10/02/02 9:02am

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PFunkjazz said:

I liked it at first, but I really
don't play it much anymore.


Same here, the music didn't grow on me.
A bunch of guitar licks & drum rolls are not enough to make a good song...
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