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Printablemurph said: I'm lightened homie...trust me...I've seen you discuss Prince and at times you make some great points...You are a real cat who is not afraid to point out some real flaws...But at times I think you try too hard to be a contrarian on every move Prince makes...I think sometimes it is what it is... Fair enough but I'm not trying to do anything other than give my opinion. No hard feelings. | |
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Wall said: murph said: I have no stake in what Prince sales or doesn't sale...So I could care less what the man pulls in because I'm not on his payroll (would be nice though...lol)...But comparing 3121 and Planet Earth first week numbers makes little sense...If you don't think the news of Prince releasing his music for free didn't effect sales, or the fact that he hasn't even dropped an official single or video for this project, then I don't know what to tell you....Prince recouped with his deal with the Mirror; that's why the press is praising him for the deal... Wall, I feel you, dog...There are folks on here that jump for joy when Prince sales 189,000 copies and then cop a plea when he sales 95, 000..Then there are the folks like myself who just want to hear some new music and see live performances whether its on television or on the live stage and smiles when he pulls one over on the music industry....And when it's needed I'll call Prince out for that bullshit... But your constant harping on whether or not Prince matters in 2007 is the makings of the other disgruntled, miserable Prince fan...The one who feels that they are keeping it real and putting the Kool-Aid sippers in their place by saying how Prince is dead...There is a fine line between fair criticism like objecting to quality of his recent musical output or his questionable treatment of longtime fans and just being a broken record who finds new ways to prove that a man that has been in the business for nearly 30 years is no longer viable... Prince is no different than Bruce Springsteen (Still can sell 200 to 300, 000 copies his first week, but doesn't get radio love; and doesn't have to...), Neil Young, or Paul Mac (Hooking up with Ipod helped his first week sales, but are the general music public checking for him?" For real?)...But the reason why Prince still commands respect (anyone that's washed up is not appearing on anyone's Power List like Entertainment Weekly just for playing "Kiss") is his status as currently one of the best performers onstage today...And at nearly 50 years old... The question you need to ask youself is would it effect you being a fan if other folks hated Prince? Are you that weak minded that because Prince sold less than 100, 000 copies that you will not be looked at as the cool kid...lol? You give folks that dare to criticize Prince and do not partake in the Purple Kool-Aid a bad name... Lighten up homie...it's not that serious... [Edited 7/30/07 20:12pm] Not sure where you're going with the cool kid thing. Most of the artists I listen to aren't chart toppers, so no, in answer to your question, I'm not concerned about Prince's sales numbers. I agree he's a great performer and that's where his bread is buttered. But I also think people here are fooling themselves if they think Prince's new musical output is any kind of event for anyone other than Prince fans. I think you need to take your own advice -- lighten up. I'm not here to psychoanlyze posters like you apparently are, I'm here to discuss Prince and his music and nothing more. [Edited 7/30/07 20:34pm] Well that's the "duh" quote of the year. Of course Prince's music matters only to Prince fans. Just like whatever Hannah Montana sells is relevant to her fans. Overall, according to this music "chart" Prince is just about as relevant as all the top sellers, and his sales are within a few thousand of each of them... he's got a top 5 album in the USA. For shame.  And he gave away 3 million copies to boot, getting paid for it. How does that make his new music irrelevant? Times are just a changin'. The chart is more for "compiled" music like Now, rehashes like Hairspray, and tween sensations like Hannah Montana. Prince exists surely on a higher level."Don't you think one of the charms of marriage is that it makes deception a necessity for both parties?" | |
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2ND PLACED IS NOTHING MORE THAN THE FIRST PLACE LOSER | |
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Right now it is looking like it might be #3 or possibly #4 this week. | |
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lspear76 said: Well that's the "duh" quote of the year. Of course Prince's music matters only to Prince fans. Just like whatever Hannah Montana sells is relevant to her fans. Overall, according to this music "chart" Prince is just about as relevant as all the top sellers, and his sales are within a few thousand of each of them... he's got a top 5 album in the USA. For shame. And he gave away 3 million copies to boot, getting paid for it. How does that make his new music irrelevant? Times are just a changin'. The chart is more for "compiled" music like Now, rehashes like Hairspray, and tween sensations like Hannah Montana. Prince exists surely on a higher level.Right, I forgot the charts (a) don't matter and (b) are for compilations now. His new music is irrelevant because nobody but his fans are listening to it or interested in it. Music fans at large, musicians and the general public have no interest in new Prince music as they might have TWENTY years ago. Hence, nobody is about to be influenced by or remember the music outside of his clubhouse and that's because he's not making music worth remembering or influencing anyone, other than the simple few who herald such pap as the Bon-Jovi lite One You Wanna See or the by the numbers, R and Bland cut Future Baby Mama as works of genius. I'm not sure how old you are, but there was a time that Prince, as they say, mattered. He doesn't anymore save for his business decisions, which as I've also pointed out, someone should do a piece on how terrible his actual album promotion is. Yes, as you point out, Prince is great at getting paid for force feeding his music onto the masses, but he couldn't get a top ten single these days to save his life. That also reflects upon how the world at large doesn't care to hear his new music. The reason he can't chart is because people aren't requesting his music because his new music isn't what people want to hear. [Edited 7/31/07 10:08am] No hard feelings. | |
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Seriously, the numbers are good, but position in album charts is hardly a great indicator of success these days (not that it doesnt' stand for anything). To be #2 with around 100,000 is unbelievable in that 100,000 is historically pretty low for a #2 album. But, times change.
First week was a lot of loyal Prince fans rushing out to get it, and maybe a few newbies. I'm wondering if sales stay strong or taper off quickly. We'll see. | |
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lastdecember said: mirrorbestfriend said: in a country with 300 million and this SUPERSTAR can only sell 100,000 first week out and T.I. SOLD 700,000....prince is done like mike vick
[Edited 7/28/07 20:01pm] So in 25 years TI is still going to be selling 700,000 week one?? He'll be lucky in 5 years if he can even sell crack I can't stop laughing  | |
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