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Reply #180 posted 08/02/07 7:46am

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Future Baby Momma is one of my favourite songs off of this album!
i looove it.. i think he sounds sooo amazing when he sings really high like that lol
`i Like em Fat, i Like em Prouddd`
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Reply #181 posted 08/02/07 10:10am

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I like when he says the "Oh yes..." and I love the "look-a-like" line. I hope he has a video for this one. I love his voice in this one.
The Dreaming Peasant
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a knock at the door,
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Reply #182 posted 08/02/07 12:11pm

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i find it ironic that folks scream, "you just want another purple rain 2" yet folks revel in the uptenth version of his r7b slow jam.

and i think i just found my response to all those posters.

See: "Future Baby Momma"
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Reply #183 posted 08/02/07 1:20pm

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funky track
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Reply #184 posted 08/02/07 2:47pm

Illustrator

I like it.
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Reply #185 posted 08/03/07 2:58am

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I find this one a bit anonymous and similar to things he's done before. However, it's completely saved by some excellent Lynn-programming.

-dennis-
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Reply #186 posted 08/03/07 6:08am

MartyMcFly

Bewdy said:

Drab beyond compare.

There is noting in this track which is either original nor engaging.

Completely forgettable.


But do you like it? hmmm
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Reply #187 posted 08/03/07 6:33am

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I like this track, though it's far from original. Those 2 beats at the start of the song fool you into thinking "When 2 R In Love" has somehow made its way unto this album. I also hear the echoes of "Thieves/Temple" and "Pink Cashmere" mentioned above, but still: excellent slow song! music
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Reply #188 posted 08/03/07 12:41pm

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except for the spoken part, I quite like this one
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Reply #189 posted 08/03/07 7:35pm

gam19566

As y'all know, Future Baby's Mama's a 4 min. and 37 sec. song. If you go 4 min. and 13 sec. into the song, towards the end when Prince is adlibbing, he imitates a crying baby. Listen when the background sings again: "future baby's mama!" and Prince comes out with "waaaaa waaaaa."

Hahahaha! I'm sure y'all caught on to that. Hey, ya probably already discussed it.
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Reply #190 posted 08/03/07 7:38pm

gam19566

MartyMcFly said:

I like this track, though it's far from original. Those 2 beats at the start of the song fool you into thinking "When 2 R In Love" has somehow made its way unto this album. I also hear the echoes of "Thieves/Temple" and "Pink Cashmere" mentioned above, but still: excellent slow song! music


Hell, I just appreciate the return of his background drum tag, reminiscent of the 80's, esp. his song "something in the water (does not compute).
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Reply #191 posted 08/04/07 8:31pm

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prodigalfan said:

I still would like to know just how Prince is dissing Mayte....

Is it because he says that all the other women before weren't good enough to be a baby mama??

I think Mayte is exempted because she IS his baby's mama... she bore his child.

Sadly the baby died... but the baby did have a mama and a daddy...

so I don't think Mayte is included.

I have the utmost respect to P and Mayte regarding the loss of their child. But as P sings, "Gotta bend in the Wind but don't break, to keep your man". Could it be that Mayte broke b4 another chance was given.
"I don't make the rules. I just play"
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Reply #192 posted 08/05/07 3:00pm

mrleeareed

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I've heard it said my love was look-a-like (LOVERS LOOK ALIKE)
But could it be that I was lookin' 4 U?
They were cool but somethin' wasn't right
They had me fooled 4 a minute and then I saw the truth


None of them got what it akes, 2 b a future baby mama
Gotta bend in the wind but don't break, 2 keep yo man
Show me (ONE) of them and i'll make her mine with no more drama
Future baby mama....


I've heard it said that I won't treat U right
But they ain't sure cuz I(THEY) don't know nothin' about U
U're 2 secure 2 eva wanna fuss and fight
Tha's Y yo man neva eva got a reason 2 doubt U


Yeah I know U might b fine, but I've seen it all b 4,
Cinderella was a waste of time, then oops she's out the door
2 build a house together, the thing that matters more(MOST),
Is under the floor, a strong foundation that lasts forever more

(Prince adlibs & chorus)


Thanks for the effort, but I've made some corrections.
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Reply #193 posted 08/05/07 3:29pm

mrleeareed

DevotedPuppy said:

gypsyfire said:

What does "gotta bend in the wind,but don't break" mean?


Trees or plants that can bend in strong winds are actually stronger than those that break at the same wind force. I personally feel it insinuates that "future baby mamas" might want to compromise (e.g. "bend") their values to get/keep a man in the hopes of being his baby mama. confused

I really dislike this whole song because of the term 'future baby mama' and this line too. (See my reply/post #50.)
[Edited 7/28/07 10:58am]


I believe he simply means she has to be strong/flexible as in weathering relationship storms, not that she has to lower her standards or compromise her values. You might say that Mani and Mayte BROKE, rather than BENT, because they hit the road. He's say he wants someone who can make it through trials rather than snap under the pressure.
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Reply #194 posted 08/05/07 3:41pm

mrleeareed

prodigalfan said:

I still would like to know just how Prince is dissing Mayte....

Is it because he says that all the other women before weren't good enough to be a baby mama??

I think Mayte is exempted because she IS his baby's mama... she bore his child.

Sadly the baby died... but the baby did have a mama and a daddy...

so I don't think Mayte is included.


Considering we don't know for certain WHEN this song was penned, it may have been written FOR mayte adn is just now being released. He could've written this along with Let's Have a Baby, adn then decided the latter song was more fitting for Emancipation and FBM finally found its home on PE. Let's think outside the box before pillorying the man!
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Reply #195 posted 08/05/07 4:25pm

Flowerz

beautiful track ..
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Reply #196 posted 08/06/07 9:11am

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yeaaaaa...I have to like this one...VERRRI R&B music
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Reply #197 posted 08/06/07 9:15am

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mrleeareed said:


I believe he simply means she has to be strong/flexible as in weathering relationship storms, not that she has to lower her standards or compromise her values. You might say that Mani and Mayte BROKE, rather than BENT, because they hit the road. He's say he wants someone who can make it through trials rather than snap under the pressure.


Or you might say Mayte & Mani left (broke) because they refused to put up with P's crap (eg. they didn't want to bend that far). Weathering relationship storms is one thing, but I don't think that means look the other way regardless of what the other person does/how they treat you. Tomato/tamahto I guess. (Disclaimer: I do not ascribe to the belief that this song is specifically about Mayte, Mani, or anyone else, I simply find it offensive and sexist.)
"Your presence and dry wit are appealing in a mysterious way."
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Reply #198 posted 08/06/07 6:10pm

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gam19566 said:

As y'all know, Future Baby's Mama's a 4 min. and 37 sec. song. If you go 4 min. and 13 sec. into the song, towards the end when Prince is adlibbing, he imitates a crying baby. Listen when the background sings again: "future baby's mama!" and Prince comes out with "waaaaa waaaaa."

Hahahaha! I'm sure y'all caught on to that. Hey, ya probably already discussed it.


I never heard that. omg Lemme go back and take a listen.

This song always makes me think of that song by Fantasia Barrino (of American Idol fame). She had a song on her first album called "Baby Mamas".
[Edited 8/6/07 18:13pm]
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Reply #199 posted 08/06/07 8:34pm

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Very Cool/Groovin song...This is in my top 3 from the Planet Earth cd cool
Eye liked it very much from the 1st. listen.
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[Edited 8/6/07 20:44pm]
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Reply #200 posted 08/07/07 1:04pm

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I still say it is an outtake from Rave.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #201 posted 08/08/07 5:53am

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i heard it an thought 'Not another' . he already got 101 songs like this an too me this is unremarkable an borring . especially after following THE ONE U WANNA C . which is an exciting song .. this kinda music sends me to sleep. i always skip this song . cos as soon as it comes on i feel uncomfortable an aint willing to waste 5 mins of my life playing it lol .. i understand some people like him doing this kinda thing .. but 4 me personally this sucks .. an has way too much bragging in the spoken part . kinda showing off . an trying too hard . material stuff ..i think i made my feelings clear on this song . an dont feel so much different about SOMEWHERE HERE ON EARTH . maybe i am too young to appreciate these type of songs? ... or maybe i just got good taste? .. In a word or 2 .. PREDICTABLEY BORRING
whenever i want to hear some new music ...i make some - prince '99'
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Reply #202 posted 08/08/07 9:20am

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DevotedPuppy said:

mrleeareed said:


I believe he simply means she has to be strong/flexible as in weathering relationship storms, not that she has to lower her standards or compromise her values. You might say that Mani and Mayte BROKE, rather than BENT, because they hit the road. He's say he wants someone who can make it through trials rather than snap under the pressure.


Or you might say Mayte & Mani left (broke) because they refused to put up with P's crap (eg. they didn't want to bend that far). Weathering relationship storms is one thing, but I don't think that means look the other way regardless of what the other person does/how they treat you. Tomato/tamahto I guess. (Disclaimer: I do not ascribe to the belief that this song is specifically about Mayte, Mani, or anyone else, I simply find it offensive and sexist.)


Oh please it is neither offensive or sexist
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Reply #203 posted 08/08/07 9:44am

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2020 said:

DevotedPuppy said:



Or you might say Mayte & Mani left (broke) because they refused to put up with P's crap (eg. they didn't want to bend that far). Weathering relationship storms is one thing, but I don't think that means look the other way regardless of what the other person does/how they treat you. Tomato/tamahto I guess. (Disclaimer: I do not ascribe to the belief that this song is specifically about Mayte, Mani, or anyone else, I simply find it offensive and sexist.)


Oh please it is neither offensive or sexist


That's your opinion, to which you are entitled; just as I am entitled to mine. The phrase "baby mama" is offensive to me, and you really have no recourse to tell me my opinion is wrong.
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Reply #204 posted 08/08/07 11:13am

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DevotedPuppy said:

2020 said:



Oh please it is neither offensive or sexist


That's your opinion, to which you are entitled; just as I am entitled to mine. The phrase "baby mama" is offensive to me, and you really have no recourse to tell me my opinion is wrong.



You are more than entitled to your opinion but to say this song is offensive is what I take issue with. Prince in no way is intending this phrase to be offensive but rather just using an already popular English term.

If you want to take offense i would look to most of the hip-hop artists out there that not only use terms much worse but mean it to be offensive
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Reply #205 posted 08/08/07 1:12pm

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2020 said:

DevotedPuppy said:



That's your opinion, to which you are entitled; just as I am entitled to mine. The phrase "baby mama" is offensive to me, and you really have no recourse to tell me my opinion is wrong.



You are more than entitled to your opinion but to say this song is offensive is what I take issue with. Prince in no way is intending this phrase to be offensive but rather just using an already popular English term.

If you want to take offense i would look to most of the hip-hop artists out there that not only use terms much worse but mean it to be offensive


So because a word/phrase is "already popular English term" it can't be offensive? So any number of deroguatory words like b*tch, n*gg*, sp*c, etc shouldn't be considered offensive b/c they are already popular English terms? I already explained earlier on this thread the many reasons why I feel the term is offensive. The phrase is imbued with meanings that cannot be changed regardless of what Prince meant or may have meant by tacking "future" in front of it. In fact, I'm disappointed that he used the phrase at all b/c I'm sure he's smart enough to know the connotations affiliated with it and he still used it.

I agree that hip-hop/rap lyrics are worse, but where do you think the phrase 'baby mama' came from? While I'm not 100% certain, I'd guess it started in the hip-hop/rap world that you cite as example of more offensive terms. So that says what?
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Reply #206 posted 08/08/07 2:25pm

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DevotedPuppy said:

2020 said:




You are more than entitled to your opinion but to say this song is offensive is what I take issue with. Prince in no way is intending this phrase to be offensive but rather just using an already popular English term.

If you want to take offense i would look to most of the hip-hop artists out there that not only use terms much worse but mean it to be offensive


So because a word/phrase is "already popular English term" it can't be offensive? So any number of deroguatory words like b*tch, n*gg*, sp*c, etc shouldn't be considered offensive b/c they are already popular English terms? I already explained earlier on this thread the many reasons why I feel the term is offensive. The phrase is imbued with meanings that cannot be changed regardless of what Prince meant or may have meant by tacking "future" in front of it. In fact, I'm disappointed that he used the phrase at all b/c I'm sure he's smart enough to know the connotations affiliated with it and he still used it.

I agree that hip-hop/rap lyrics are worse, but where do you think the phrase 'baby mama' came from? While I'm not 100% certain, I'd guess it started in the hip-hop/rap world that you cite as example of more offensive terms. So that says what?


That hip-hop is full of offensive language?

Baby mama (also baby-mama and baby-mother) is an African-American Vernacular English term used to describe a mother who is not married to her child's father. The term is included in the Oxford English Dictionary as baby-mama, where it is defined as, "the mother of a man's child, who is not his wife or (in most cases) his current or exclusive partner".

The term originated in Jamaican Creole as baby-mother (pronounced "biebi madda"), with the first printed usage appearing in the Kingston newspaper the the Daily Gleaner in 1966.[1][2] Another Daily Gleaner use dates from November 21, 1989.[2] Peter L. Patrick, a linguistics professor who studies Jamaican English, has said of the terms baby-mother and baby-father, "[they] definitely imply there is not a marriage—not even a common-law marriage, but rather that the child is an 'outside' child".

Baby-mother and baby-mama had entered wide use in American hip-hop lyrics by the mid-1990s.[1] The Outkast song "Ms. Jackson", released in 2000, was dedicated to "all the baby mamas' mamas". American Idol winner Fantasia Barrino released a song entitled "Baby Mama" in 2004. Prince's 2007 CD Release "Planet Earth" features the song "Future Baby Mama" that rose quickly on the R&B charts.


Originally, the term was used by the fathers of children born out of wedlock to describe the mothers of their children, but the term is now in general use to describe any single mother. However, since entering currency in U.S. tabloids, the terms baby-mama and baby-daddy have even begun to be applied to married and engaged celebrities.[1]
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Reply #207 posted 08/08/07 7:03pm

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I didn't like it when I heard the low quality version 2 or so months ago. But now, its easily the best song on the album.
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Reply #208 posted 08/09/07 8:17am

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2020 said:

DevotedPuppy said:



So because a word/phrase is "already popular English term" it can't be offensive? So any number of deroguatory words like b*tch, n*gg*, sp*c, etc shouldn't be considered offensive b/c they are already popular English terms? I already explained earlier on this thread the many reasons why I feel the term is offensive. The phrase is imbued with meanings that cannot be changed regardless of what Prince meant or may have meant by tacking "future" in front of it. In fact, I'm disappointed that he used the phrase at all b/c I'm sure he's smart enough to know the connotations affiliated with it and he still used it.

I agree that hip-hop/rap lyrics are worse, but where do you think the phrase 'baby mama' came from? While I'm not 100% certain, I'd guess it started in the hip-hop/rap world that you cite as example of more offensive terms. So that says what?

That hip-hop is full of offensive language?

Baby mama (also baby-mama and baby-mother) is an African-American Vernacular English term used to describe a mother who is not married to her child's father. The term is included in the Oxford English Dictionary as baby-mama, where it is defined as, "the mother of a man's child, who is not his wife or (in most cases) his current or exclusive partner".

The term originated in Jamaican Creole as baby-mother (pronounced "biebi madda"), with the first printed usage appearing in the Kingston newspaper the the Daily Gleaner in 1966.[1][2] Another Daily Gleaner use dates from November 21, 1989.[2] Peter L. Patrick, a linguistics professor who studies Jamaican English, has said of the terms baby-mother and baby-father, "[they] definitely imply there is not a marriage—not even a common-law marriage, but rather that the child is an 'outside' child".

Baby-mother and baby-mama had entered wide use in American hip-hop lyrics by the mid-1990s. [1] The Outkast song "Ms. Jackson", released in 2000, was dedicated to "all the baby mamas' mamas". American Idol winner Fantasia Barrino released a song entitled "Baby Mama" in 2004. Prince's 2007 CD Release "Planet Earth" features the song "Future Baby Mama" that rose quickly on the R&B charts.


Originally, the term was used by the fathers of children born out of wedlock to describe the mothers of their children, but the term is now in general use to describe any single mother. However, since entering currency in U.S. tabloids, the terms baby-mama and baby-daddy have even begun to be applied to married and engaged celebrities.[1]


Where'd you get this? Wikipedia? no no no!

Note the parts in bold... "the child is an 'outside child'" opens up a whole discussion about being "the other" which I will not get into (see any number of writings by Foucault, Derrida, Fanon, Said, etc. if you're interested). And it was hip-hop that brought the phrase to America so your point about the phrase being okay and hip-hop being worse is completely pointless because it entered English (US) vernacular from hip-hop!

sigh Love how you completely ignored the first part of my response, but whatever. I'm done discussing it b/c you are only reading what you want to and not considering the larger picture.

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Reply #209 posted 08/09/07 9:15am

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2020 said:


That hip-hop is full of offensive language?

Baby mama (also baby-mama and baby-mother) is an African-American Vernacular English term used to describe a mother who is not married to her child's father. The term is included in the Oxford English Dictionary as baby-mama, where it is defined as, "the mother of a man's child, who is not his wife or (in most cases) his current or exclusive partner".

The term originated in Jamaican Creole as baby-mother (pronounced "biebi madda"), with the first printed usage appearing in the Kingston newspaper the the Daily Gleaner in 1966.[1][2] Another Daily Gleaner use dates from November 21, 1989.[2] Peter L. Patrick, a linguistics professor who studies Jamaican English, has said of the terms baby-mother and baby-father, "[they] definitely imply there is not a marriage—not even a common-law marriage, but rather that the child is an 'outside' child".

Baby-mother and baby-mama had entered wide use in American hip-hop lyrics by the mid-1990s. [1] The Outkast song "Ms. Jackson", released in 2000, was dedicated to "all the baby mamas' mamas". American Idol winner Fantasia Barrino released a song entitled "Baby Mama" in 2004. Prince's 2007 CD Release "Planet Earth" features the song "Future Baby Mama" that rose quickly on the R&B charts.


Originally, the term was used by the fathers of children born out of wedlock to describe the mothers of their children, but the term is now in general use to describe any single mother. However, since entering currency in U.S. tabloids, the terms baby-mama and baby-daddy have even begun to be applied to married and engaged celebrities.[1]


Where'd you get this? Wikipedia? no no no!

Note the parts in bold... "the child is an 'outside child'" opens up a whole discussion about being "the other" which I will not get into (see any number of writings by Foucault, Derrida, Fanon, Said, etc. if you're interested). And it was hip-hop that brought the phrase to America so your point about the phrase being okay and hip-hop being worse is completely pointless because it entered English (US) vernacular from hip-hop!

sigh Love how you completely ignored the first part of my response, but whatever. I'm done discussing it b/c you are only reading what you want to and not considering the larger picture.

"baby mama" machinegun


In the end its too bad for you cause this is a great song and its too bad your offended by it

As for me and many others - we LOVE it!
The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.

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