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Reply #30 posted 07/08/07 11:48am

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Well, I only heard ´Guitar´ but judging from the reviews, it seems a pop rock album, more organic and well produced than 3121 and Musicology. Some people on the other thread said that it´s better than Rainbow Children. But for me TRC was a masterpiece, a conceptual album with such great musicianship and production (except for the Darth Vader voice, ok). One of the best albums he did in his career, IMO. Very artistic.

People agree that Planet Earth is better than Rainbow Children or Gold Experience? Or is it just the euphoria of a new release?
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Reply #31 posted 07/08/07 11:51am

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1. Planet Earth
Amazing vocals, especially the screaming at the end. It's more of the kind of stuff I wished he would do for a long time. What I hear most is a "real song", something that you could see him just doing on a piano or a guitar, unplugged or with the full band and it working either way. Interesting that he used the guitar effect that sounds like Fred Flinstone running at the end, used on Fury live on SNL. I dig that sound. Oh and a very mid-70's pop/jazz sounding bridge, odd but works in a strange way. Rating: "Fun and Adventurous"

2. Guitar
This song frustrates me, because I really like the guitar parts and the female backing vocals toward the end (it should have more of those throughout the song). I even think the song itself can be "saved" by doing a faster remix and I'm working on one myself (think Hey Ya). Rating: "Spoiled opportunity for greatness"

3. Somewhere Here On Earth
I think of Damn U when I hear this. That one grew on me and this one quickly is, as well. It's one of his best vocal performances ever, rivals The One in that regard. Beautiful piano and trumpet. Rating: "Soft and Powerful"

4. The One U Wanna C
I like this song a lot. It may have a shot at the charts, but I'm not expecting it. Still, I'm happy he's gone here, it's closer to LRC or Raspberry Berret than A Million Days was. I really love the lyrics, while some think they're campy, they work perfectly for me. Rating: "sing along madness!"

5. Future Baby Mama
Still my favorite of the batch. An old school prince ballad, with TRC production quality. Even a splash of Most Beautiful Girl thrown in, but more of I Hate U, which was always my favorite on Gold Exp. I annoy myself comparing these to old P songs, but he's done so much already, it's just hard not to. But, I can see the day where this song becomes the benchmark for a slow ballad. It's got a lot going on without feeling overloaded. Too many "ballads" have just a couple intstruments. He should do a whole cd in this style. Rating: "The reward for waiting so many years"

6. Mr. Goodnight
Proof that Prince has no rap flow at all, which is a good thing because if he did, we would have been fed only slightly better (c)rap like this for the past 20 years. Rating: "Skip to next"

7. All The Midnights In The World
Short track that kind of breaks things up, doesn't bother me, but not loving it. Rating: "Passable filler"

8. Chelsea Rodgers
Kicks right into gear. Fun song with some great remix possibilities. I kinda wish the female vocals weren't so over the top. I'd like this even more if it was more in the vein of A Love Bizarre, which it somehow reminds me of. But, no mistake, this is a great song with a good chance for radio play. Rating: "Turn it up and move"

9. Lion Of Judah
Any excuse to work with W&L is a good thing. Not the greatest "Revolution" song, but it's great to have them back working together again. Rating: "Message for the fans"

10. Resolution
This sounds the most contemporary to my ear (in a folk/pop way). I like this more and more. It may not be totally new ground for Prince, but it does sound fresh for him, as if he would sound this way if he just started making music today. Rating: "Makes you look forward to the next cd"
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Reply #32 posted 07/08/07 11:53am

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Article in The Mail On Sunday paper of today (08.07.07):


http://www.mailonsunday.c...ince1.html
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Reply #33 posted 07/08/07 11:53am

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GustavoRibas said:

Well, I only heard ´Guitar´ but judging from the reviews, it seems a pop rock album, more organic and well produced than 3121 and Musicology. Some people on the other thread said that it´s better than Rainbow Children. But for me TRC was a masterpiece, a conceptual album with such great musicianship and production (except for the Darth Vader voice, ok). One of the best albums he did in his career, IMO. Very artistic.

People agree that Planet Earth is better than Rainbow Children or Gold Experience? Or is it just the euphoria of a new release?

It's not better than those records...but it's better than musicology, 3121 and rave. It's minor work considering Prince's career but a major one compared to the last ten years output.
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Reply #34 posted 07/08/07 11:56am

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GustavoRibas said:

Well, I only heard ´Guitar´ but judging from the reviews, it seems a pop rock album, more organic and well produced than 3121 and Musicology. Some people on the other thread said that it´s better than Rainbow Children. But for me TRC was a masterpiece, a conceptual album with such great musicianship and production (except for the Darth Vader voice, ok). One of the best albums he did in his career, IMO. Very artistic.

People agree that Planet Earth is better than Rainbow Children or Gold Experience? Or is it just the euphoria of a new release?


For me it is better than TRC, but I've never been a huge fan of TRC, so I'm biased.

I am however a fan of TGE, and for me, this is a more focused and definitely better produced album than TGE. Musically, these albums differ. PE is more lighthearted and fun compared to TGE. It really is a matter of persnal taste which one is better, but the quality of both is comparable.
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Reply #35 posted 07/08/07 12:08pm

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GustavoRibas said:

Well, I only heard ´Guitar´ but judging from the reviews, it seems a pop rock album, more organic and well produced than 3121 and Musicology. Some people on the other thread said that it´s better than Rainbow Children. But for me TRC was a masterpiece, a conceptual album with such great musicianship and production (except for the Darth Vader voice, ok). One of the best albums he did in his career, IMO. Very artistic.

People agree that Planet Earth is better than Rainbow Children or Gold Experience? Or is it just the euphoria of a new release?



better than TRC, because it's not bogged down in dogma and there isn't a "narrator" fucking up the flow or the songs. not better than Gold, though.
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Reply #36 posted 07/08/07 12:12pm

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GustavoRibas said:

People agree that Planet Earth is better than Rainbow Children or Gold Experience? Or is it just the euphoria of a new release?


I don't think PE matches either of those albums. I will say I hear faint twangs of the TRC-Prince on here though, it's definately a progression of Musicology/3121, but with TRC/ONA infused.

If PE had followed TRC, when you first put the CD in, and hear the title track, you would think it was a logical progression, same goes for Lion Of Judah.

The title track is great, it's like Empty Room mixed with One Song.
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Reply #37 posted 07/08/07 12:15pm

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so has the cd been released or was t given out in MPLS at the concerts?
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Reply #38 posted 07/08/07 12:16pm

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Man, I'm so jealous of all of you who have the disc already! I have to wait until July 24th, like the rest of the world! bawl
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Reply #39 posted 07/08/07 12:20pm

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no we didnt get it at any of the conerts but i'd suuuuure love to hear it.

oldpurple said:

so has the cd been released or was t given out in MPLS at the concerts?
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Reply #40 posted 07/08/07 12:42pm

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Chelsea Rodgers is my fave.


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Reply #41 posted 07/08/07 1:00pm

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ah i see we've moved the discussion to another thread biggrin


Planet Earth: really like the opening with the piano, the drumtrack and
later the guitar. The verses are cool and stripped down. The chorus is a bit
busy for my taste, as if there’s just too much going on all of a sudden. The
bridge still reminds me of Could it be Magic and doesn’t do much for me. After
the bridge the verse and the building tension do sound nice. Reminds me of
Last December mixed with 3 Chains of Gold. (7.5)

Guitar: as far as pop rock tunes go I like this a lot. It’s breezy and
light and the guitar gives it a bit of an extra edge. Still a lightweight tune
in Prince’s catalogue. Nothing too dramatic or deep, just fun fluff. Not a
guilty pleasure by any means but not a classic either. Wish he would have kept
that guitar solo at the end going on longer and louder, like say let’s go
crazy. (7)

Somewhere Here On Earth: Cool instrumentation! Love the piano and horns,
although I’m not too sure about the drums, could have sounded a bit more real
perhaps. Anywho, vocal track is absolutely top notch highest caliber prince
delivery. Reminds me of the “One Nite Alone cd more than it reminds me of
Power Fantastic but I can see how people would think of that one because of the
horns and the piano et all. The only thing I don’t like about this song is that
he has this classic sounding timeless song and he has to mention a pager.(8)

The One U Wanna C: Very catchy. It’s stuck in my head all the time
though I don’t really like it, lol. I think this will be a grower. Something
I won’t play very often but will always like when it comes up on shuffle. Cool
effort, nice arrangement with lost going on without it being too cluttered or
over produced. It sounds breezy and open. (7)

Future Baby Mama: Still not sure about the title but once again a nice
vocal delivery and an all out vintage prince instrumental backing. Love the use
of the linn on this one. It’s like an updated version of What Do U Want Me 2 Do
more than anything else. And that’s a good thing imo cuz that is one of only 4
songs I can stand on Musicology. (7)

Mr Goodnight: Love how he mentions a handful of songs or lines out of his
catalogue in this tune. It flows well and contrary to what others have said I
think it fits pretty well on this cd, especially coming right after Future Baby
Mama which kind of leads into this track softly, in that it breaks with the
more pop rock organic feel of the preceding tracks. Love the fact that
it’s ‘rap’ yet the backing tracks sound more organic than he usually utilizes
for these type of songs. Perhaps it’s a guilty pleasure but I just love
Prince’s deep talking/rapping vocal. Not a classic lol but nice enough (6.5)

All The Midnights In The World
: After all the negative talk from the
initial reviews I expected this to be horrible. Well, in fact I think it’s very
very nice indeed. Sure it’s sweet but there’s a redeeming quality in it. The
vocal harmonies are subtle and nice and the melody is different and quirky
enough to save it from being syrupy. I’m a sucker for short, mid to fast
tempo prince songs that last under 3 minutes and this is a great addition to
those we already have. (7.5)

Chelsea Rogers: Judging from people’s reviews I’m probably the only one
who thinks this tracks would have been better off relegated to a b-side or an
obscure online release. It’s not that the track is weak, it’s actually nice and
bouncy. Love the way it flows effortlessly and the bass is so incredibly
delicious. My gripe with this song is that it’s Shelby on vocals. I don’t like
that. One of the most upbeat and bouncy tracks on the album and Prince himself
is way down in the mix except some short shout outs. Although it’s a track with
great potential this is without a doubt the one I will play least of all.
Having said that, I think I will bust it out once in a while if only for that
delicious breakdown at the end and the horns on it. (6.5)

Lion of Judah: love the opening, the kick drum and the purple rain like
guitar and the opening line is just sooo beatles “sitting on the floor of an
all white room, feeling like the color blue”.
Absolutely love it. It flows effortlessly, like many of the tracks on this
album. Feels like it was recorded quickly and not messed with too much. Not
overproduced or muddled. Clear and spontaneous sounding. (8)

Resolution: another one of those songs that benefit from not being over
produced and laced with a million different keyboards and cowbells. Most
revolution sounding track imo even if it might not sound like something off
Parade. The lyrics are amongst pearls before the swine and dear mr man subjects
but come off less contrived than dear Mr Man imo. Which is what reminds me most
of the Revolution/Wendy and Lisa stuff in the early days. The only time it
leans toward cringe territory is when he says “come on now all over the world”,
that is just too cliché for my taste. Beyond that it’s probably my fav track
off the album (8.5)

the main thing i like about this album is that unlike some previous albums,
like Musicology, there is nothing on this that makes me cringe or think the
album contains real filler.

the production -as far as i can make out in this lousy quality- is perfect.
it sounds fresh, light and breezy from start to finish with only the title
track being an exception in all it's muddled 3 chains of gold glory.

another nice thing about this album is that it sounds like an album again,
diverse and with an erratic flow but still kind of glued. there's different
styles but it doesn't feel like a mixtape which was what imo both musicology
and 3121 suffered from somewhat.

fcuz you can never know how long prince sat on these tracks but they sound
as if they were recorded all together in a short space of time, without a
million overdubs and mixes being made. the melodies speak for themselves,
and eventhough most of them are not total classics, they don't reak of an
insane kind of pretention or wanna be status. they just are and sound very
healthy and uncontrived.

i can't wait to go to the store and get my excellent quality copy of this,
and listen to it over and over again.

i'm not completely nuts about this but that's fine, from what i hear on it
it sounds like it's an album that doesn't hit you like a ton of bricks but
will remain a favorit for a very long time to come none the less.

now all i've left to desire is a shitload of b-sides and outtakes from the
2005-2007 sessions popping up on 3121.com

pray



absolutely agree with your report.
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Reply #42 posted 07/08/07 1:02pm

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Reply #43 posted 07/08/07 1:14pm

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The sticking point is that albums like Musicology, 3121, and Rave are not as bad as some would have you believe, and albums like ATWIAD, Parade, and SOTT are not as good as people would have you believe. Prince has not had a universally accepted "great" album since Purple Rain. Even "fan favorites" like ATWIAD and Parade were dogged by many critics, sold poorly, and made it hard for Prince to be taken seriously.

Planet Earth is the same as this... it has some tracks people consider great, although the ones people consider great vary wildly. In the end, everyone just wants more from Prince. I'm sure Prince could pull out another ten songs, put them on an album, and release it tomorrow and there would still be the mixed reviews. And that's the way it is.
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Reply #44 posted 07/08/07 1:16pm

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Planet Earth - Prince has a strange fetish to start off all his albums with the title track, it's a practice he hasn't deviated from since "Emancipation" basically. This one sounds actually a bit like a mutant child of Moonbeam Levels and Last December, while definitely being a far more tastier affair than the latter . Wendy & Lisa apparently appear on the bridge that recalls "In All My Dreams" or "Splash" type of lightweight yet complex arrangements. Not a great classic song melody-wise, but definitely a noteworthy Prince composition.

Guitar - You've already heard this one. I like the intro. There's an interesting "Crosstown Traffic" -type of guitar figure going underneath that's the highlight of the song for me. In the context of this album the silly, lazy lyrics aren't really that bothering.

Somewhere Here On Earth - Like already stated here this one has a 70s soul vibe to it, and yes it does sound a lot like "Power Fantastic" as well.

The One U Wanna C - Perky 60s pop, actually you could compare this one to Beck's "Think I'm Falling In Love" too, not just something like The Beatles. I'm very delighted to hear Prince has written something like this song. In fact the whole album does sound like he has set some new musical challenges for himself. That doesn't mean he would have done something that artsy, but he's definitely exploring some territory here that he hasn't tackled to this extent before. Oh yay, and the song has a proper fadeout - you couldn't even believe how good something like that sounds on a song like this instead of his more recent prog rock -outros.

Future Baby Mama - Somewhere between the mid-80s Prince-sound and Chaka Khan's "Come 2 My House" to my ears. Doesn't really build up into any sort of climax (actually very few of the songs on the album do, however), but works really well. The album isn't terribly "sexy" in the sex-maniac-prince-of-the-90s -way, or not even in the "Black Sweat" -way. But it's playful in the mid-80s Prince kind of way.

Mr. Goodnight - This one's a bit on the crappy side to me as well, but it's cheesiness saves a lot. Hard to hate it, when its roots are still so obviously on his classic eras. Prince has done songs that remind of this one on his past protege albums.

All The Midnights In The World - There's really nothing wrong with his song. Prince's bad vocal technique actually saves a lot on this song, making it a bit more challenging to listen. He has always worked that way. No, this song is not up to the standards of "Purple Rain", but it still would have fit The Dream Factory. Well, sort of.

Chelsea Rodgers - Heh, this is the most disco-esque track Prince has ever done, even counting in the material on "For You". Really well-written and arranged material. It's almost as if Prince wanted to prove retroactively that he could have pulled off the disco-sound of the 70s like anybody else at the time would have had chosen to do so. Excellent horns this time around - completely different from the very mundane arrangements used on his last couple of albums. Excellent song and if you thought "Love" from the last album was catchy pop done as well as he can do such a thing these days, this is from a completely different dimension.

Lion Of Judah - Another religious tune that doesn't really deliver that greatly as a song, but then again, it blends quite well into the the last song.

Resolution - A very lightweight tune. Quite unlike anything Prince has done however, yet sounds still a lot like The Revolution due to the presence of W&L again. Thank goodness there was no bombastic number to end the album with. The album really benefits from the bouncy, thumpy basslines he has employed on many of the cuts.

All in all the record has a surprisingly strong Prince & The Revolution vibe. I got a very positive impression on this record, altough I was personally expecting absolutely nothing from it. Might be that I am actually enjoying the record more because of the compromised sound-quality, which reminds me of bootleg records automatically, so the magic of that combined with the voices of Wendy & Lisa really hits a positive nerve with me. The album doesn't sound forced at all to me, which is a huge leap above from material like "Lolita" or the title track from "Musicology" (not to mention his less fortunate efforts at writing quirky pop like "When U Love Somebody"). I might grow to hate the album when I'll hear it in better sound quality and the synthesizer textures turn out to be the typical Korg Triton / Roland Fantom rompler garbage. I am very surprised how sprawling and easy-going the melodies actually are. In overall the album is a welcome addition to Prince's album catalogue, and definitely yet another "return to form". Wouldn't say any of the songs on the album are going to be future classics (except maybe for "Chelsea Rodgers"), but that doesn't mean the album itself wouldn't be a very pleasant encounter with the Prince we've loved in the past. With a hint of a very healthy future direction for Prince as well. The artistic misfires of his late-90s catastrophes are long gone.

Except maybe for the cover art, of course. In case that hideousity is going to end up as the actual cover for the record. confused
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Reply #45 posted 07/08/07 1:20pm

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Personally, TRC is a better album than Planet Earth. That music is thick and brilliant.

The Gold Experience? I'd say it is a better album too. The first half of that album bites (P Control, a poor version of Endorphinmachine, We March, and a stiff version of TMBGIW), but the second half is stellar material.

The last time Prince wrote and performed great material was the Come/Gold era. His shows were dynamite, but unfortunately he had to sit on the material for a long time (thanks to the hits and warner not releasing two albums at once), and since then Prince's writing and shows have not been quite as good. What a huge difference between the Come/Gold material and the Emancipation/Newpower soul material. Wow!

Now that I think about it, I don't think Planet Earth is as good as The Truth either. That was one sweet album. Don't get me wrong, the Planet Earth album is solid and worthwhile, but it's too short and is definitely just a snack.
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Reply #46 posted 07/08/07 1:22pm

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I'm really digging it...It's not perfect, but it has a certain strength that Musicology and 3121 totally lacked (much less filler). TRC was just a mess, despite the good parts, this album actually has cohesion. Great job, Prince!
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Reply #47 posted 07/08/07 1:23pm

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Here's a good question... for an artist as brilliant as Prince, who can compose great songs like Planet Earth and Somewhere Here on Earth, and as fun as Guitar and The One You Wanna see, why oh why does he bother making songs like Mr. Goodnight? What does it prove? What does it show? Can you imagine Prince sitting in the studio, bobbing his head to this thinking it's great? Or doesn't he care? Or can't he tell the difference between his good songs and bad songs?
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Reply #48 posted 07/08/07 1:28pm

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"Mr. Goodnight" sounds to me more like his Vegas -theme song.
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Reply #49 posted 07/08/07 1:35pm

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lspear76 said:

The sticking point is that albums like Musicology, 3121, and Rave are not as bad as some would have you believe, and albums like ATWIAD, Parade, and SOTT are not as good as people would have you believe. Prince has not had a universally accepted "great" album since Purple Rain. Even "fan favorites" like ATWIAD and Parade were dogged by many critics, sold poorly, and made it hard for Prince to be taken seriously.

Planet Earth is the same as this... it has some tracks people consider great, although the ones people consider great vary wildly. In the end, everyone just wants more from Prince. I'm sure Prince could pull out another ten songs, put them on an album, and release it tomorrow and there would still be the mixed reviews. And that's the way it is.



yeah, i agree with all of that.
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Reply #50 posted 07/08/07 1:42pm

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lspear76 said:

Here's a good question... for an artist as brilliant as Prince, who can compose great songs like Planet Earth and Somewhere Here on Earth, and as fun as Guitar and The One You Wanna see, why oh why does he bother making songs like Mr. Goodnight? What does it prove? What does it show? Can you imagine Prince sitting in the studio, bobbing his head to this thinking it's great? Or doesn't he care? Or can't he tell the difference between his good songs and bad songs?



I think it's him having fun in an r&b, versus a rock way, like he is in the 2 rock songs you mention. Mr. Goodnight reminds me a lot of the silly rap about "Cap'n Crunch... with soy milk" from Joint 2 Joint or "yo shorty, what yo name is" part of Poom Poom.
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Reply #51 posted 07/08/07 1:57pm

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Raze said:

lspear76 said:

Here's a good question... for an artist as brilliant as Prince, who can compose great songs like Planet Earth and Somewhere Here on Earth, and as fun as Guitar and The One You Wanna see, why oh why does he bother making songs like Mr. Goodnight? What does it prove? What does it show? Can you imagine Prince sitting in the studio, bobbing his head to this thinking it's great? Or doesn't he care? Or can't he tell the difference between his good songs and bad songs?



I think it's him having fun in an r&b, versus a rock way, like he is in the 2 rock songs you mention. Mr. Goodnight reminds me a lot of the silly rap about "Cap'n Crunch... with soy milk" from Joint 2 Joint or "yo shorty, what yo name is" part of Poom Poom.


Yeah but is Mr. Goodnight album-worthy? If it was a B Side, or just some personal track, then fine, but you're telling me Prince didn't have a better song to put in this slot? Mr. Goodnight would be fit better in the Incense & Candles spot on 3121.
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Reply #52 posted 07/08/07 1:57pm

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lspear76 said:

Here's a good question... for an artist as brilliant as Prince, who can compose great songs like Planet Earth and Somewhere Here on Earth, and as fun as Guitar and The One You Wanna see, why oh why does he bother making songs like Mr. Goodnight? What does it prove? What does it show? Can you imagine Prince sitting in the studio, bobbing his head to this thinking it's great? Or doesn't he care? Or can't he tell the difference between his good songs and bad songs?


That IS a good question. I think we can assume it is a combination of a few things...the main problem probably being a lack of critical feedback. Does Prince actually have anyone who can tell him "actually, that's shit" I wonder? That said, the fan in me appreciates that we get to hear some of these pretty rough "sketches" and silly throwaway songs now and again.

I have mixed feelings on "Mr Goodnight". On one hand, Prince should never ever try to rap, and we probably have enough of these embarrassing "I'm so awesome / I'm such a great lover / I'll sweep you off your feet with my wealth and sexiness" songs that no man of Prince's age should be recording. And Prince releases albums so infrequently these days, it makes you wish that when he does he'd try to do something with more substance. On the other hand, it is head-bob-tastic.
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Reply #53 posted 07/08/07 2:13pm

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lspear76 said:

Raze said:




I think it's him having fun in an r&b, versus a rock way, like he is in the 2 rock songs you mention. Mr. Goodnight reminds me a lot of the silly rap about "Cap'n Crunch... with soy milk" from Joint 2 Joint or "yo shorty, what yo name is" part of Poom Poom.


Yeah but is Mr. Goodnight album-worthy? If it was a B Side, or just some personal track, then fine, but you're telling me Prince didn't have a better song to put in this slot? Mr. Goodnight would be fit better in the Incense & Candles spot on 3121.



I agree that he probably had better tracks for this album, if he needed some r&b numbers on there (Feel Better, Feel Good, Feel Wonderful, for one), but I really don't mind this track. I kind of like it actually boxed It is pretty throw-away. But then a lot of the tracks are. And they're still pretty good, despite that fact. I'd say it's one of the better/catchier songs he's done in this style.
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Reply #54 posted 07/08/07 2:19pm

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ian said:

I have mixed feelings on "Mr Goodnight". On one hand, Prince should never ever try to rap, and we probably have enough of these embarrassing "I'm so awesome / I'm such a great lover / I'll sweep you off your feet with my wealth and sexiness" songs that no man of Prince's age should be recording. And Prince releases albums so infrequently these days, it makes you wish that when he does he'd try to do something with more substance. On the other hand, it is head-bob-tastic.


Ageist much??
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Reply #55 posted 07/08/07 2:22pm

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If you don't like this CD you hate Prince.


sorry but you all know some little tit would post that sooner or later. lol
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Reply #56 posted 07/08/07 2:23pm

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lspear76 said:

Or can't he tell the difference between his good songs and bad songs?


That's pretty personal and subjective. For example, I happen to like Mr. Goodnight and think it fits the album well. Chelsea Rodgers OTOH should have been kicked to the curb and used as a bonus track or something. Just the fact that you can barely hear him sing on it is enough to ruin the flow of the album for me.
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Reply #57 posted 07/08/07 2:24pm

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ian said:

lspear76 said:

Here's a good question... for an artist as brilliant as Prince, who can compose great songs like Planet Earth and Somewhere Here on Earth, and as fun as Guitar and The One You Wanna see, why oh why does he bother making songs like Mr. Goodnight? What does it prove? What does it show? Can you imagine Prince sitting in the studio, bobbing his head to this thinking it's great? Or doesn't he care? Or can't he tell the difference between his good songs and bad songs?


That IS a good question. I think we can assume it is a combination of a few things...the main problem probably being a lack of critical feedback. Does Prince actually have anyone who can tell him "actually, that's shit" I wonder? That said, the fan in me appreciates that we get to hear some of these pretty rough "sketches" and silly throwaway songs now and again.

I have mixed feelings on "Mr Goodnight". On one hand, Prince should never ever try to rap, and we probably have enough of these embarrassing "I'm so awesome / I'm such a great lover / I'll sweep you off your feet with my wealth and sexiness" songs that no man of Prince's age should be recording. And Prince releases albums so infrequently these days, it makes you wish that when he does he'd try to do something with more substance. On the other hand, it is head-bob-tastic.
It's a good thing that he didn't have anyone around to tell him that Goodnight sucked, because it doesn't. It may not have all that substance but the flow is pretty nice. And, it's much more spoken word than it is rap. I like this track.
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Reply #58 posted 07/08/07 2:24pm

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lspear76 said:

Here's a good question... for an artist as brilliant as Prince, who can compose great songs like Planet Earth and Somewhere Here on Earth, and as fun as Guitar and The One You Wanna see, why oh why does he bother making songs like Mr. Goodnight? What does it prove? What does it show? Can you imagine Prince sitting in the studio, bobbing his head to this thinking it's great? Or doesn't he care? Or can't he tell the difference between his good songs and bad songs?


Well, this is the question people have been asking for years, about tracks like Jughead, Mr. Happy, Push It Up, Hot Wit' U, Why Should I Do That When I Can Do This, ICP&C, Life O' The Party, Incense & Candles.
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Reply #59 posted 07/08/07 2:27pm

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NouveauDance said:

lspear76 said:

Here's a good question... for an artist as brilliant as Prince, who can compose great songs like Planet Earth and Somewhere Here on Earth, and as fun as Guitar and The One You Wanna see, why oh why does he bother making songs like Mr. Goodnight? What does it prove? What does it show? Can you imagine Prince sitting in the studio, bobbing his head to this thinking it's great? Or doesn't he care? Or can't he tell the difference between his good songs and bad songs?


Well, this is the question people have been asking for years, about tracks like Jughead, Mr. Happy, Push It Up, Hot Wit' U, Why Should I Do That When I Can Do This, ICP&C, Life O' The Party, Incense & Candles.



Yeah, I think it's probably time to stop complaining about Prince rapping. He's not going to stop. At this point, he probably has more albums with a track or 2 where he's rapping than albums where he doesn't at all.
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