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Printablemirrorbestfriend said: With the early reviews being lukewarm and many people inlcuding myself thinking the original Guitar version was better than the new one(I know it had no guitar
 ) it is clear to say this album won't last long in the public's mind.
I'm predicting by the time he finishes the shows in London the CD wont be in the top 20 album charts, which means it will be difficult to tour in America unless he does the hits show again a la 2004. IF GUITAR IS THE BEST THING ON THIS ALBUM WE IN TROUBLE PEOPLE! I hate this because it took him 20 years and Beyonce to become hot again. It looks like he may be headed for another NEWPOWERSOUL era (God help us all) What do you think Prince should do after London and the planet earth has cooled down to try and stay relevant? My ideas: 1.MOVE BACK TO MINNEAPOLIS TO RECORD! 2.BECOME CREATIVE IN SOUNDS AND ARRANGEMENTS AGAIN! 3.GET A YOUNG PRODUCER! QUESTLOVE OR PHARELL 4.GET A VIABLE SIDE PROJECT TO STAY MOTIVATED I.E. THE TIME 5. STOP FLOODING THE MARKET WITH MEDIOCRE ALBUMS EVERY YEAR! every 2 years would be better what are some of your ideas? Since when did Questlove become a "young producer"? If u dont think his material is that good, why do u want a "viable side project?" As for th e Mediocre albums, since when did anyone say that Musicology, 3121, TRC, etc were "mediocre"? They may not be stellar or phenominal...they are good albums. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: mirrorbestfriend said: With the early reviews being lukewarm and many people inlcuding myself thinking the original Guitar version was better than the new one(I know it had no guitar
) it is clear to say this album won't last long in the public's mind.
I'm predicting by the time he finishes the shows in London the CD wont be in the top 20 album charts, which means it will be difficult to tour in America unless he does the hits show again a la 2004. IF GUITAR IS THE BEST THING ON THIS ALBUM WE IN TROUBLE PEOPLE! I hate this because it took him 20 years and Beyonce to become hot again. It looks like he may be headed for another NEWPOWERSOUL era (God help us all) What do you think Prince should do after London and the planet earth has cooled down to try and stay relevant? My ideas: 1.MOVE BACK TO MINNEAPOLIS TO RECORD! 2.BECOME CREATIVE IN SOUNDS AND ARRANGEMENTS AGAIN! 3.GET A YOUNG PRODUCER! QUESTLOVE OR PHARELL 4.GET A VIABLE SIDE PROJECT TO STAY MOTIVATED I.E. THE TIME 5. STOP FLOODING THE MARKET WITH MEDIOCRE ALBUMS EVERY YEAR! every 2 years would be better what are some of your ideas? Since when did Questlove become a "young producer"? If u dont think his material is that good, why do u want a "viable side project?" As for th e Mediocre albums, since when did anyone say that Musicology, 3121, TRC, etc were "mediocre"? They may not be stellar or phenominal...they are good albums. mediocre for prince | |
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jaynoonan said: emilio319 said: Why don't you WAIT until the cd comes out and you can ACTUALLY LISTEN to it and MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND rather than talking smack based upon a few reviews. Some of you guys on the org are really ridiculous and I can see why P seems to have to lay the smack down on some of the "fans" every once in a while. And you want him to get a "Young Producer???" Gimme a fucking break...these young producers only know how to work a fucking computer and sample MUSICIANS. Everything they know they learned from P only they only learned a few little gimmicks, they don't understand shit cuz they aren't musicians, they need to go back to school and pick up this ancient artifact known as an INSTRUMENT. Maybe then they will start producing better shit. In the meantime, Prince needs to keep doing whatever the hell he feels like it. Some of it will be awesome and some of it won't but he has earned the right to do whatever the hell he wants with his music. If you don't like it, don't buy it, but please don't be so ignorant as to suggest that some shithead like Pharrell can do anything for Prince other than mop the floors at the studio. right on! right off! | |
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daPrettyman said: mirrorbestfriend said: With the early reviews being lukewarm and many people inlcuding myself thinking the original Guitar version was better than the new one(I know it had no guitar
) it is clear to say this album won't last long in the public's mind.
I'm predicting by the time he finishes the shows in London the CD wont be in the top 20 album charts, which means it will be difficult to tour in America unless he does the hits show again a la 2004. IF GUITAR IS THE BEST THING ON THIS ALBUM WE IN TROUBLE PEOPLE! I hate this because it took him 20 years and Beyonce to become hot again. It looks like he may be headed for another NEWPOWERSOUL era (God help us all) What do you think Prince should do after London and the planet earth has cooled down to try and stay relevant? My ideas: 1.MOVE BACK TO MINNEAPOLIS TO RECORD! 2.BECOME CREATIVE IN SOUNDS AND ARRANGEMENTS AGAIN! 3.GET A YOUNG PRODUCER! QUESTLOVE OR PHARELL 4.GET A VIABLE SIDE PROJECT TO STAY MOTIVATED I.E. THE TIME 5. STOP FLOODING THE MARKET WITH MEDIOCRE ALBUMS EVERY YEAR! every 2 years would be better what are some of your ideas? Since when did Questlove become a "young producer"? If u dont think his material is that good, why do u want a "viable side project?" As for th e Mediocre albums, since when did anyone say that Musicology, 3121, TRC, etc were "mediocre"? They may not be stellar or phenominal...they are good albums. we still in trouble future baby mama is nice but not earthshaking | |
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Today is the day! I was finally able to have a listen of Planet Earth in a nice listening room in the premises of Sony BMG in Poland. The playback was from a promotional disc in a cardboard sleeve with no artwork. I listened to it on a very effective Denon soundsystem so I had a chance to hear it quite well. Mind you, this is not going to be a review but merely some first impressions, the most notable of them being the fact that this album will be very difficult to review. I think the disc is really strange, even by Prince's standards. Here go the songs and descriptions: 1.Planet Earth – begins with haunting piano chords and Prince's voice solely. It does reminisce Empty Room, especially the live version, as it is piano and guitar driven and shares the same atmosphere of angst. The cut is rather complex and has got a tremendous melody. From the very beginning Prince treats you with a very emotive vocal delivery embracing the piano chords. Then a strong guitar and heavy drums come in at a mid tempo and immediately Led Zeppelin’s opuses come to mind. There is also a nice break with jazzy drums, piano, scatting vocals and screaming guitars. Then it turns back to the minimalist intro part to again develop into a real rocker with a fantastically placed guitar solo at the end. It ends with some strange sounds, some sort of loop of a starting rocket if I remember correctly. It is a very strong cut and my personal favourite right now. 2.Guitar – same as the single version. 3.Somewhere Here On Earth – a slow jazzy ballad with loads of piano, trumpet and some flute. I think the beat comes from a drum machine but the rest of the music is very organic. It begins with an extended trumpet solo a la Atlanta Bliss (or Miles Davis). It is sung in a falsetto and I have to admit that Prince simply kills it vocally on this one, it is that good! There is plenty of space left for soloing on the aforementioned instruments and some vocal acrobatics which would make Billie Holiday happy… After several verses and choruses interspersed with soloing the tempo increases a bit to make it sound in the vein of the waltzy A Place in Heaven. It is less focused on melody and more on instrumentation. Frankly, one of his finest ballads without sounding schmaltzy a single bit. 4.The One U Wanna See – an uptempo pop rock number with a country undercurrent. The beat is quite similar to Guitar but it features some nice slap bass. It is indeed very lively and sounds a bit like Play in the Sunshine. I think Wendy and Lisa might be on this cut as it has this late revolution feel of The Dream Factory material with a The Beatles tinge. This is a very catchy and happy song. Nice guitar work at the end and handclaps. Great melody. 5.Future Baby Mama – already out there so I won’t go into details here. 6.Mr. Goodnight – I cosign Murph’s comment that this one might have been left of for the sake of cohesiveness, it does not seem to go well with the rest of the disc. Prince raps in a laid back manner, the beat is forgettable but the melody and chorus are not that bad. There is some nice bass here. The chorus is sung by some female voices. I think Shelby J. might be doing the backing vocals on this one. It is catchy, yet unoriginal and somewhat dull. 7. All the Midnights in the World – I could not agree less with the critics of the song. To me this is a classic pop rock Prince cut, sounding a bit like The Holy River or A Million Days. It is far from being cheesy. The arrangement is very simple with some nice piano chords and powerful drums. 8. Chelsea Rodgers – a real club banger. Boogie Wonderland on crack. Disco-funk feel of the 1970s. Sung predominantly by Shelby J. with Prince cutting in here and there. Lots of chants, such as “C’mon Chelsea, C’mon go ahead now!”. A bit like Superfreak by Rick James. It is a bit repetitive but extremely effective as a funk workout. From what I could make of the lyrics it is about the Chelsea girl, who used to be a model but now wants to save her soul. Nice solos on sax, trombone, trumpet, a Billie Jean like beat breakdown, good vocal harmonies and great guitar work. You will be singing the chorus for weeks (or years) to come. 9. Lion of Judah – another uptempo rock number with the opening guitar strokes similar to Purple Rain’s intro. It is nice, although it made me think of Cinnamon Girl for a while. It has this oldschool rock feel but manages to smuggle some Bowie-like elements in some parts. Dirty guitar solo at the end plus a break down with a guitar and kick drum a bit reminiscent of The Cross. 10. Resolution – yes, it is called Resolution, the tracklist labaled on the disc sleeve clearly stated that plus the word appears in the lyrics. This yet another pop rocker has some sweet acoustic guitar, nice bass and heavy drums. It features a reggae infused part near the end and a break similar to some parts of Into the Light. “How many people really want a resolution?” Prince asks. Ends with some quirky synth sounds. It will be very difficult to review this album. Majority of the cuts (Planet Earth, Somewhere Here On Earth, The One U Wanna See, All the Midnights in the World, Chelsea Rodgers, Lion of Judah and Resolution) to me sounded really inspired. Prince is in a great mood and the joy of making music really oozes from this album. It is a bold statement after the very commercial sounding 3121 and a refreshing experience. But to judge it fairly one will have to give it some more spins. Soon. [Edited 6/28/07 8:52am] | |
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Today is the day! I was finally able to have a listen of Planet Earth in a nice listening room in the premises of Sony BMG in Poland. The playback was from a promotional disc in a cardboard sleeve with no artwork. I listened to it on a very effective Denon soundsystem so I had a chance to hear it quite well. Mind you, this is not going to be a review but merely some first impressions, the most notable of them being the fact that this album will be very difficult to review. I think the disc is really strange, even by Prince's standards. Here go the songs and descriptions: 1.Planet Earth – begins with haunting piano chords and Prince's voice solely. It does reminisce Empty Room, especially the live version, as it is piano and guitar driven and shares the same atmosphere of angst. The cut is rather complex and has got a tremendous melody. From the very beginning Prince treats you with a very emotive vocal delivery embracing the piano chords. Then a strong guitar and heavy drums come in at a mid tempo and immediately Led Zeppelin’s opuses come to mind. There is also a nice break with jazzy drums, piano, scatting vocals and screaming guitars. Then it turns back to the minimalist intro part to again develop into a real rocker with a fantastically placed guitar solo at the end. It ends with some strange sounds, some sort of loop of a starting rocket if I remember correctly. It is a very strong cut and my personal favourite right now. 2.Guitar – same as the single version. 3.Somewhere Here On Earth – a slow jazzy ballad with loads of piano, trumpet and some flute. I think the beat comes from a drum machine but the rest of the music is very organic. It begins with an extended trumpet solo a la Atlanta Bliss (or Miles Davis). It is sung in a falsetto and I have to admit that Prince simply kills it vocally on this one, it is that good! There is plenty of space left for soloing on the aforementioned instruments and some vocal acrobatics which would make Billie Holiday happy… After several verses and choruses interspersed with soloing the tempo increases a bit to make it sound in the vein of the waltzy A Place in Heaven. It is less focused on melody and more on instrumentation. Frankly, one of his finest ballads without sounding schmaltzy a single bit. 4.The One U Wanna See – an uptempo pop rock number with a country undercurrent. The beat is quite similar to Guitar but it features some nice slap bass. It is indeed very lively and sounds a bit like Play in the Sunshine. I think Wendy and Lisa might be on this cut as it has this late revolution feel of The Dream Factory material with a The Beatles tinge. This is a very catchy and happy song. Nice guitar work at the end and handclaps. Great melody. 5.Future Baby Mama – already out there so I won’t go into details here. 6.Mr. Goodnight – I cosign Murph’s comment that this one might have been left of for the sake of cohesiveness, it does not seem to go well with the rest of the disc. Prince raps in a laid back manner, the beat is forgettable but the melody and chorus are not that bad. There is some nice bass here. The chorus is sung by some female voices. I think Shelby J. might be doing the backing vocals on this one. It is catchy, yet unoriginal and somewhat dull. 7. All the Midnights in the World – I could not agree less with the critics of the song. To me this is a classic pop rock Prince cut, sounding a bit like The Holy River or A Million Days. It is far from being cheesy. The arrangement is very simple with some nice piano chords and powerful drums. 8. Chelsea Rodgers – a real club banger. Boogie Wonderland on crack. Disco-funk feel of the 1970s. Sung predominantly by Shelby J. with Prince cutting in here and there. Lots of chants, such as “C’mon Chelsea, C’mon go ahead now!”. A bit like Superfreak by Rick James. It is a bit repetitive but extremely effective as a funk workout. From what I could make of the lyrics it is about the Chelsea girl, who used to be a model but now wants to save her soul. Nice solos on sax, trombone, trumpet, a Billie Jean like beat breakdown, good vocal harmonies and great guitar work. You will be singing the chorus for weeks (or years) to come. 9. Lion of Judah – another uptempo rock number with the opening guitar strokes similar to Purple Rain’s intro. It is nice, although it made me think of Cinnamon Girl for a while. It has this oldschool rock feel but manages to smuggle some Bowie-like elements in some parts. Dirty guitar solo at the end plus a break down with a guitar and kick drum a bit reminiscent of The Cross. 10. Resolution – yes, it is called Resolution, the tracklist labaled on the disc sleeve clearly stated that plus the word appears in the lyrics. This yet another pop rocker has some sweet acoustic guitar, nice bass and heavy drums. It features a reggae infused part near the end and a break similar to some parts of Into the Light. “How many people really want a resolution?” Prince asks. Ends with some quirky synth sounds. It will be very difficult to review this album. Majority of the cuts (Planet Earth, Somewhere Here On Earth, The One U Wanna See, All the Midnights in the World, Chelsea Rodgers, Lion of Judah and Resolution) to me sounded really inspired. Prince is in a great mood and the joy of making music really oozes from this album. It is a bold statement after the very commercial sounding 3121 and a refreshing experience. But to judge it fairly one will have to give it some more spins. Soon. [Edited 6/28/07 8:52am] so basically u saying that its gonna be too weird for the general public and will tank.....I told yall | |
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MOST of u have heard a ll 10 tracks and realize this will die soon....was i a prophet or what? | |
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If he wasn't happy with it, he wouldn't release it
With the state of the recording industry any record compared to sales in 1985 is a failure with the exception of a few well promoted albums. Chaos and Disorder wasn't a commercial success, but I love the album. Let's face it: musicology was a success because of being give away, 3121 debuted at No1, because of generally low cd sales. So what? And now? He has created more publicity with PE than any other artist lately. It is one of the biggest stunts in the business of the year. Who am I or is anyone to judge an artist (any artist) by commercial success? If we dig it, we dig it. If we don't, we don't! Noone is a prophet for making an average comment in the first place. You have a 50% chance to succeed! It would have been a braver move from you to support the album. | |
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aprilsnow said: If he wasn't happy with it, he wouldn't release it
With the state of the recording industry any record compared to sales in 1985 is a failure with the exception of a few well promoted albums. Chaos and Disorder wasn't a commercial success, but I love the album. Let's face it: musicology was a success because of being give away, 3121 debuted at No1, because of generally low cd sales. So what? And now? He has created more publicity with PE than any other artist lately. It is one of the biggest stunts in the business of the year. Who am I or is anyone to judge an artist (any artist) by commercial success? If we dig it, we dig it. If we don't, we don't! Noone is a prophet for making an average comment in the first place. You have a 50% chance to succeed! It would have been a braver move from you to support the album. but the thing is i was right!...this thing gonna drop so fast..... | |
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You were right. A few great tracks, some ok tracks and two real clunkers. I dont think he really cares. Its not about albums anymore. that why he's giving it away. He's truely a nostalgia act now.
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mirrorbestfriend said: MOST of u have heard a ll 10 tracks and realize this will die soon....was i a prophet or what?
You're talking crap The album is great | |
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Prince needs to do whatever Prince needs to do.
Prince should keep doing what he is doing. I thought I read Prince is going to travel and study the Bible. That will provide him with all the inspiration that he needs for whatever else he is going to do. Prince does not need other producers, or side projects, or anything. I would guess the next CD is probably half done already, so who knows what will be the next project. So to answer the questions: 1.MOVE BACK TO MINNEAPOLIS TO RECORD! He probably does that already anyhow. 2.BECOME CREATIVE IN SOUNDS AND ARRANGEMENTS AGAIN! He is creative in sounds and arrangements. 3.GET A YOUNG PRODUCER! QUESTLOVE OR PHARELL Not needed. I would not anyone else to produce Prince but Prince. 4.GET A VIABLE SIDE PROJECT TO STAY MOTIVATED I.E. THE TIME . Not needed. 5. STOP FLOODING THE MARKET WITH MEDIOCRE ALBUMS EVERY YEAR! every 2 years would be better. I would gladly take an album twice a year, actually. I find the questions strange. Over the years I have read criticisms, usually from record industry people, wanting the same things. Why do people wnat to take "Prince" and remake him into something else? Prince is just fine the way God made him. We should leave him alone and let the man do his job. That said. Two weeks until Planet Earth Woo. Hoo!!!! | |
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Dewrede said: mirrorbestfriend said: MOST of u have heard a ll 10 tracks and realize this will die soon....was i a prophet or what?
You're talking crap The album is great go 2 the audiologist to get your ears tested | |
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Go to a psyrink to get your brain checked [Edited 7/10/07 10:54am] | |
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Dewrede said: Go to a shrink to get your brain checked
hey aS a moderator in training i must warn u not to personally attack me.... I am a princeologist so to argue with me is futile | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: [quote:0a27dcee5e]Dewrede said: [quote:0a27dcee5e]Go to a shrink to get your brain checked[/quote:0a27dcee5e]hey aS a moderator in training i must warn u not to personally attack me.... I am a princeologist so to argue with me is futile[/quote:0a27dcee5e] This thread is a flood of stupidity flowing from an ocean of pessimism. Prince make sthe music he makes... He doesn't need your foolish suggestions. That's why he's who he is and you're who you are, | |
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jpav said: mirrorbestfriend said: [quote:0a27dcee5e]Dewrede said: [quote:0a27dcee5e]Go to a shrink to get your brain checked[/quote:0a27dcee5e]hey aS a moderator in training i must warn u not to personally attack me.... I am a princeologist so to argue with me is futile[/quote:0a27dcee5e] This thread is a flood of stupidity flowing from an ocean of pessimism. Prince make sthe music he makes... He doesn't need your foolish suggestions. That's why he's who he is and you're who you are, you need posting lessons | |
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Side projects...
"young producers"... Seriously dude, these are flat-out lame suggestions. Prince is Prince; he's one of the legendary musicans for our time. I love it when you "experts" propose in a four-line post how to "fix" him. Comical... | |
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Yes , Pharell isn't even worthy of wiping Prince's ass
All he ever did was create beats on a computer Anyone can do that [Edited 7/10/07 11:12am] | |
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Dewrede said: Yes , Pharell isn't even worthy of wiping Prince's ass
All he ever did was create beats on a computer Anyone can do that [Edited 7/10/07 11:12am] well he sounds more like prince than prince | |
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"He Should, He could, I wish he would"...
Man just let Prince be Prince! Good, bad or otherwise. It's all subjective. Besides, the ride is half the fun. If relevant is what's "hot" today, forget it. Respected, yes. Relevant, who cares. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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Mods , shouldnt this thread be locked like all the others on Planet Earth , we've got the sticky now to discuss the album after all  Check out Chocadelica , updated with Lotusflow3r and MPLSound album lyrics April 2nd 2009 :
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moonshine said: Mods , shouldnt this thread be locked like all the others on Planet Earth , we've got the sticky now to discuss the album after all
this was before the sticky...and its not about planet earth...its about whats next....please use intelligence on my thread | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: moonshine said: Mods , shouldnt this thread be locked like all the others on Planet Earth , we've got the sticky now to discuss the album after all
this was before the sticky...and its not about planet earth...its about whats next....please use intelligence on my thread PE will go over the TOP in UK and USA. Just wait and see!!!!! Lemme | |
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4bjb said: mirrorbestfriend said: this was before the sticky...and its not about planet earth...its about whats next....please use intelligence on my thread PE will go over the TOP in UK and USA. Just wait and see!!!!! leave that crack alone...lil brother...lil brother | |
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yo, what's the lottery gonna be in Michigan tomorrow. Mr. Prophet?! a brotha's broke ova here. need some help.
you're FAR from a prophet, just a jaded, ungrateful presumptuous "fan" who wants P. to do what YOU want him to do and not what he's pleased with as an artist. u're already off to the NEXT project BEFORE this one comes out, that's just SAD. and we all HAVE NOT heard all 10 trax, many ON PURPOSE. Pharrell and Questlove, puhhleeze, since when did the Roots have "chart success"?! (your barometer for quality it seems), or any of Questlove's "side projects", as for Pharrell, a COPY is NEVER better than the original. ...once again i don't follow trends, they just follow me..." (a lyric from another much maligned prince song, that i happen to LIKE; thank you GOD for my OWN MIND!! (or to the evolutions on the org, thank you random circumstances for my own mind) | |
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