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Thread started 06/23/07 7:35pm

Moonbeam

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I like 1999: The New Master

I've been listening to this for the past few days, and I quite like it. Thoughts?
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Reply #1 posted 06/23/07 7:37pm

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Reply #2 posted 06/23/07 7:45pm

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Reply #3 posted 06/23/07 7:51pm

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Reply #4 posted 06/23/07 7:53pm

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Is Ian being serious or just being provocative? lol
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Reply #5 posted 06/23/07 8:17pm

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Imago said:

Diva said:


Is Ian being serious or just being provocative? lol


Both!
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Reply #6 posted 06/23/07 8:19pm

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Reply #7 posted 06/23/07 8:25pm

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I like it 2! wink
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Reply #8 posted 06/23/07 9:00pm

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the only thing that redeems the whole thing is the knock on the door and Rosie in that constipated/trying-to-push-one-out voice saying "I caaaame ta parrrrday" in that one remix lol
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Reply #9 posted 06/23/07 9:02pm

Imago

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the only thing that redeems the whole thing is the knock on the door and Rosie in that constipated/trying-to-push-one-out voice saying "I caaaame ta parrrrday" in that one remix lol

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Reply #10 posted 06/23/07 9:09pm

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Hate It
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Reply #11 posted 06/23/07 9:13pm

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Diva said:

Imago said:


Is Ian being serious or just being provocative? lol


Both!



Ok, here's my honest assessment of 1999-TNM

I'm going to disregard everyone on the maxi-single except the first track, which is most similar to the original song.

I do like the song. I actually think it's far less boring than the original, which to me was a boring, repetitious song that barely saved itself with a mildly slightly interesting ending leading into Little Red Corvette. I loved the album itself, but never cared for the title track.

The new Master, at least is musically more interesting, more fleshed out, and has more depth. I even like the Latin bridge (is it a bridge? or an interlude. I don't know these terms shrug ) near the end of the song. What I don't like is Prince's actual vocal treatment--it's not as smooth as the original, and I strongly dislike the rap elements in it. They're just horrid.

But the music, instrumentation, and actual structure of the song (minus the glaring rap element) is more interesting to me than the original. shrug


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ok, ok, I would like critique one of the tracks I said I wouldn't.

The stupid (Rosie Doug E. In the Deep House Mix) is so aweful that it's hilarious. To paraphrase Raze's comment that it sounded like a "constipated/trying-to-push-one-out" voice, I actually found myself completely balancing emotions of complete disbelief, discust, and sheer hilarity at the same time falloff


I-i-iiiii-i-i -iiii,-iiii--iiii, eeeee, step weeee.. step weeee. da da deee oh ho ho ho ho, I'm came here to paaaaarrrrtttyy. falloff
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Reply #12 posted 06/23/07 9:16pm

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Reply #13 posted 06/23/07 9:16pm

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Imago said:

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The stupid (Rosie Doug E. In the Deep House Mix) is so aweful that it's hilarious. To paraphrase Raze's comment that it sounded like a "constipated/trying-to-push-one-out" voice, I actually found myself completely balancing emotions of complete disbelief, discust, and sheer hilarity at the same time falloff




that shit cracks me up every time lol when my boyfriend and i are riding around in the car, sometimes i'll play that intro part on my ipod just as a joke. biggrin


never listen to the rest of the track, though, of course.
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Reply #14 posted 06/23/07 9:19pm

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the track on there that i REALLY hate, though, is "Rosario (1999)"


barf the epitome of everything that was wrong with the lowest point of his pseudo-political/religious bullshit.
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Reply #15 posted 06/23/07 9:29pm

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Raze said:

the track on there that i REALLY hate, though, is "Rosario (1999)"


barf the epitome of everything that was wrong with the lowest point of his pseudo-political/religious bullshit.


Agreed.

Luckily for P, he completely messed up and released this in the wrong year, so no one outside of us diehard completists bothered to buy it.
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Reply #16 posted 06/24/07 6:02am

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I don't have it sad


You're not missing anything.

JMHO of course. wink
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Reply #17 posted 06/24/07 7:25am

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Hate It

I agree I also repied to a similar topic on this.

I HATED it as well. Id rather make it into a wall clock and let dust collect on it.

IMHO, DONT mess with the ORIGINAL masterpeice.
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Reply #18 posted 06/24/07 7:47am

Imago

toots said:

mplsmike said:

Hate It

I agree I also repied to a similar topic on this.

I HATED it as well. Id rather make it into a wall clock and let dust collect on it.

IMHO, DONT mess with the ORIGINAL masterpeice.
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Reply #19 posted 06/24/07 7:58am

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I love it too... it is my favorite coaster.
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Reply #20 posted 06/24/07 8:14am

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This is the first Prince single / EP / project I decided not to buy. I don't feel the loss.
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Reply #21 posted 06/24/07 9:42am

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While it by no means improves on the original I don't think its that terrible. Just a few fun little remixes, whats the harm?
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Reply #22 posted 06/24/07 5:27pm

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Imago said:

Diva said:



Both!



Ok, here's my honest assessment of 1999-TNM

I'm going to disregard everyone on the maxi-single except the first track, which is most similar to the original song.

I do like the song. I actually think it's far less boring than the original, which to me was a boring, repetitious song that barely saved itself with a mildly slightly interesting ending leading into Little Red Corvette. I loved the album itself, but never cared for the title track.

The new Master, at least is musically more interesting, more fleshed out, and has more depth. I even like the Latin bridge (is it a bridge? or an interlude. I don't know these terms shrug ) near the end of the song. What I don't like is Prince's actual vocal treatment--it's not as smooth as the original, and I strongly dislike the rap elements in it. They're just horrid.

But the music, instrumentation, and actual structure of the song (minus the glaring rap element) is more interesting to me than the original. shrug


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ok, ok, I would like critique one of the tracks I said I wouldn't.

The stupid (Rosie Doug E. In the Deep House Mix) is so aweful that it's hilarious. To paraphrase Raze's comment that it sounded like a "constipated/trying-to-push-one-out" voice, I actually found myself completely balancing emotions of complete disbelief, discust, and sheer hilarity at the same time falloff


I-i-iiiii-i-i -iiii,-iiii--iiii, eeeee, step weeee.. step weeee. da da deee oh ho ho ho ho, I'm came here to paaaaarrrrtttyy. falloff


I'm referring to the first track here. The remixes go from interesting to embarrassing pretty quickly!

I can't agree with your assessment of the original "1999" though. It is perhaps the song that defines Prince the best for me- wickedly innovative, adventurous, full of metaphors and funked out to the max. More than any other song, this it has made me a fan of music. "1999" is my blood.

As a result, I can easily understand why many hate the new master. They think it pisses all over the legacy of the amazing original. Often, when a twerp artist covers a classic by one of my favorites, I get pretty peeved. But this is Prince updating himself. I think I'm such a megafan of the original song's sound that the fact that the new master sounds fairly similar in many facets still sends that blood rushing through my veins. Yeah, I'm not big on the rap, and don't get me started on Rosie, but I still dig it.
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Reply #23 posted 06/24/07 9:49pm

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Imago said:

Diva said:



Both!



Ok, here's my honest assessment of 1999-TNM

I'm going to disregard everyone on the maxi-single except the first track, which is most similar to the original song.

I do like the song. I actually think it's far less boring than the original, which to me was a boring, repetitious song that barely saved itself with a mildly slightly interesting ending leading into Little Red Corvette. I loved the album itself, but never cared for the title track.

The new Master, at least is musically more interesting, more fleshed out, and has more depth. I even like the Latin bridge (is it a bridge? or an interlude. I don't know these terms shrug ) near the end of the song. What I don't like is Prince's actual vocal treatment--it's not as smooth as the original, and I strongly dislike the rap elements in it. They're just horrid.

But the music, instrumentation, and actual structure of the song (minus the glaring rap element) is more interesting to me than the original. shrug


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ok, ok, I would like critique one of the tracks I said I wouldn't.

The stupid (Rosie Doug E. In the Deep House Mix) is so aweful that it's hilarious. To paraphrase Raze's comment that it sounded like a "constipated/trying-to-push-one-out" voice, I actually found myself completely balancing emotions of complete disbelief, discust, and sheer hilarity at the same time falloff


I-i-iiiii-i-i -iiii,-iiii--iiii, eeeee, step weeee.. step weeee. da da deee oh ho ho ho ho, I'm came here to paaaaarrrrtttyy. falloff

I recently got a copy.
Yes, it is unbearably awful.
The original song is dull, and yet for me was a strong and powerful introduction into princes' pop music.

The raps on it are torture.
What was the little fella thinkin'? lol
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Reply #24 posted 06/25/07 11:19am

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But I like it too neutral
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Reply #25 posted 06/25/07 11:34am

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I don't have it sad


You can have mine for, say, 50 bucks?
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Reply #26 posted 06/25/07 11:45am

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calldapplwondery83 said:

Rightly said:

I don't have it sad


You can have mine for, say, 50 bucks?

I already bought a copy
it's not worth a dollar

smile how did you pay for yours?
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Reply #27 posted 06/25/07 11:52am

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Just 4 the record

The original was the song that got me interested in pop-music.
Even though it's very repetitive. I remember hearing 1999 distantly on the radio, The next day I was in the record store asking for the new prince single. The guy said "the new 1", I said yeah, and he gave me let's go crazy.sounded like a party title for party music, so I happily took it home. and the plot thickened!

Next day, I bought 1999! biggrin

It's always been hard to be me.
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Reply #28 posted 06/25/07 1:13pm

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Diva said:




Too Funny!!!!!
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Reply #29 posted 06/25/07 1:22pm

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the only mix i like is keep steppin mix..otherwise rolleyes no wonder it's the last thing 2 get played in my collection
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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