jwsullivan said:

thats a type...its actual a song about Giai and Captain Planet's forbidden love:

jwsullivan said:

As long as it isn't "Hypnoparadise," I'm good to go.

Rhondab said:

I was thinking the same thing

what happened to that "chain" song?

the more i look at that tracklist the more i think it must be a fake

the rainbowchildren tracklist struck me as a bit weird when it was
first put up online but this one is just bizarre for a prince album
these days.

it simply doesn't ad up to anything that makes even remote sense to
me.

jwsullivan said:

Damn I hope this song is really there

alxndrstff said:

Apparently it is the full version. The mp3 is online on the Sony website and you can hear on this version the few seconds that make the link with the next tune (like an old record scratch).

sarkozyiszeman said:

Could you direct me to that part of the website?
I have no idea where I'm going...

what makes this tracklist 'legit'??

Well im hoping this holds true, 10 tracks THANK U!! Im so tired of everyone filling up 80mins of CD time with tracks,skits,segues, and this goes for everyone and Prince has done it a few times, the symbol album being one, if i wanna hear Kirstie Alley i'll watch Jenny Craig commercials. Also im hoping this are just straightforward songs, if he wants to Jam, save it for the shows, NO 8 minute tracks please. Hit me with a 40 minute CD, i cant believe people complain about a 40 minute cd, shit thats all U used to get, if the org existed back in 1981 would we be bitching about the shot Dirty Mind or Controversy albums or even Purple Rain, and its not like he had tracks to throw away in those days, he could have made every album a triple album even he wanted too, so just hope for 10 tracks and 40 minutes of solid songs, save the 3 hour stuff for the shows.

lastdecember said:

Aaaand, breathe out.

If you want a 40min CD of Prince music, then that's cool. Personally, I can't get enough of Prince's music and would be happy to have a 5-CD set of new music that varies from shit-as-fuck dirge to uber-classic. At least then, I can programme my CD/MP3 player to play the songs I like (which as has often been the case in the past, includes songs that the majority think is dirge) and skip the ones I don't like. But at least I've had the chance to hear all those songs, rather than being limited to 10 or 12 at any given point.

Now, I'm actually excited about this tracklist because A) It's a new Prince album, which is always welcome, and B) I'm guessing that with only 10 songs, we might be looking at a number of them that exceed the 6minute mark and will meander beautifully into some fascinating pieces of music, rather than have an album full of 3-4 minute instant fixes.
I genuinely can't believe that any true Prince fan would be happy to have a limited number of new songs at any given point, unless they were obsessed about Prince scoring yet another commercial hit album.
It's funny how some fans will say that Purple Rain just goes to prove that by limiting the songs on the album makes for a better album. And yet I bet those fans would cream in their jeans if a special edition version came out with all the unreleased songs and B-Sides from that era. I wonder if they'd still claim that the 9 song version of Purple Rain was still superior?

Personally i am glad that this album will not have more then 10 tracks (if that is really the case of course).

I mean, since the CD has become the main source for recording and delivering music, many artists have (ab)used the capacity of about 75 minutes to deliver albums with a lot of filler.

Not only do many musicians have problems to fill 75 minutes in 1 year with killer tracks only, they also have problems with reacting on the attention span of someone listening to an album.

I might sound oldfashioned, but i go for quality over quantity, and personally i think an album should be more then the sum of its numbers, it has an extra value as an 'artwork' when an album is cohesive, often concept-like, and holding well together as an piece of art. Instead of 'just' a collection of songs: some good, some bad.

Even in the area of CD's (which for the younger generation is more an era of MP3's even) i think the albums that are about 45 - 50 minutes long are often better then the ones that use the full capacity of the CD.
To illustrate that: REM's Automatic for the People (about 50 minutes) just 'works' better then their albums New Adventure in Hifi and UP (around 60 - 75 minutes), and Princes album Parade (around 45 minutes) pisses all over the Symbol album and The Rainbow Children (both 60 - 70 minutes)

lastdecember said:

I agree! it's not that we dont love lots of new music but its about wanting proper quality tracks. I agree segues are IMHO the worst thing to happen to the development of albums in the last 20 years as are some of the filler tracks people feel is needed. Lets get a killer 40 min album of the standard of Dirty Mind and I'd be content

Rhondab said:

Riverpoet31 said:

You're absolutely right. But try convincing a non-album listener of that. They just go take the CD and rip their favorite tracks anyway.

And this from someone who loves MP3s, but also albums.

This new album maybe overloaded with filler (who knows?), but shorter albums are encouraging to album listeners. Almost no one on Planet Earth has 75- or 80-minutes worth of material. It happens once in a blue moon ("SOTT", "1999"), but it's very rare and such an occurrence would require you to think about the need for a double album.

I'll still be listening to "Dirty Mind" in 10 years, but I certainly won't be listening to his CD-length albums of this era. An era that's hopefully ending with the demise of the CD.

Brendan said:

Exactly the only time i want 80 minutes is when im getting someones greatest hits, or a special package thing like that. I seriously believe that CD's killed qualtiy albums, for everyone. I dont think there is one 80 minute cd (outside of a hits album) that i can get through, thats what an album is. Even Prince said it back in 1998 about the old days of albums, u take it home and drop the needle anywhere and loved it, or just started it and wouldnt care about skipping.

lastdecember said:

Yep. Anthologies should always be packed to the gills.

And the only greatness I can think of at this length or longer usually required two LPs or 2 CDs. The group or artist had to think long and hard about the need for inclusion.

In fact, that's a good way to weed out filler. Listen over and over again, preferably over months. The tracks that stick, probably should stick.
[Edited 6/12/07 17:38pm]

when Amazon.com lists the cd, and the titles, that's when it will be an official tracklist, imho.

I hope Shelby is featured on here. That chick is badass

sosgemini said:

hope so. I'm sure over due to get NastyNasty!

interesting!

Haystack said:[quote]

lastdecember said:

For me, it's about having a solid listening experience for the album. Put the rest out as b-sides/downloads/soundtrack contributions, etc. I prefer to have a tight, well put together album, and then take all the extras and bonuses and add them in to make my own longer version when I want to hear that.

Raze said:[quote]

Haystack said:

bingo...theres a different level of expectation when it comes to b-sides and bonus material.

hopefully thats were prince has put all the filler.

Raze said:[quote]

Haystack said:

Amen 2 that. I totally agree.
Although from what I was told, the album was originally going 2 be longer.
I suspect that since he's working with a major label, he cut some of the songs back out of the final tracklist.
Prince works so fast, that this could easily be only a fraction of what he's recorded.

sosgemini said:

i really do hope so. it would be so nice to be able to walk into a store
and pick up the latest prince maxi single with an extended version on it
and one or two non album trax.

last time was Cinnamon Girl with United States of Division on it and the
time before that.... i can't even recall. Wasn't it Gold that had one of
the last ever b-sides?

i wouldn't even mind some download b-sides at this point. just any kinda
new music he's got kicking about.

like the finished "feel good, feel better, feel wonderful' etc.

Rhondab said:

call me spoiled lol ...but unless i'm a female with a do rap and swears she can rap..don't call me da brat

and i did a total time of this new album 45 mins it may have been the norm back in the day, but come on, we know the man has tons of unlreased material in the vaults..time 2 let those babies out!

Raze said:[quote]

Haystack said:

I totally agree with you there. But he hasn't with the first single. The b

side is an album track. I was a little dissapointed there. I guess he's

trying to promote the album, but the single only comes out two weeks before. I

hope he starts adding b sides when additional singles are released. I'm trying

to remember when he stopped adding non-album tracks to his opening singles. I

know it's been a while since he has.

what is the B SIDE?

Haystack said:

i feel ya cause i want all the new music i can stand because i sure am not satisfied with the live material since it's all old shit anyway. give me a 2 hour set of new music on a new release instead. then i'll feel like i've gotten my money's worth