Papaj said:

Sdldawn said:

yeah same here. a fake one is starting to pop up everywhere,
even on several blogs. it's just an old bros album with the
titles changed.

i was so excited when i got it from a blog i know pretty well
and figured it must be the real thing. what i didn't think of
was that they wouldn't check the content before posting



this is going to be nice and confusing once this spreads out.

Hey...can someone shoot me a copy of the Guitar demo?
Where was/are the demos (any downloadables!) located on 3121.com?

Thanks!!!

Drdave319@yahoo.com

DAVE

DrDave319 said:

the guitar demo was originally sold on 3121.com but i don't know
if it's still there now.

DrDave319 said:

ive sent it to you

Riverpoet31 said:

Interesting comment. I felt like you...after musicology and before 3121. But 3121 was such a good record in my opinion, that i don't expect a real masterpiece. I believe 3121 is a really strong effort, and i believe it is his best record since gold. I don't believe, he can give us a really masterpiece anymore.

I fear, that he can't reach the level of 3121. If he reaches 3121, i will be content.

But another question: As we know, gold was an early 90s record. So...if you wait for a masterpiece-record since then...do you really think he will deliver it now? If he wasn't capable of in the long time between gold and now?

tainacher said:

I think he's released far more interesting stuff than 'The Gold Experience' since then, but I am 1 of the few that don't like that nor 'Diamonds & Pearls'. I don't know if 'Planet Earth' will be an "artistic comeback" as quoted above, because 'The Rainbow Children' was one of the most artistically "superior" recordings he's released.

I do think that 'Planet Earth' will please us old-school Prince heads, and it may even surprise us with some crazy cross between the mid '80s Prince and the late '80s Prince, but while also remaining "current". I'm hoping that "Guitar" is the only song of it's "kind" on the album, and I believe it is.
[Edited 6/20/07 12:02pm]

Personally i label "the Rainbow Children" as one of his weakest albums ever, giovanni.

I really think the fact that he was playing more organic music on that album, and the use of a great drummer (John Blackwell) is overshadowing the lack of good songwriting and compositions on The Rainbow Children.

Next to that the lyrics on The Rainbow Children are toecurlingy bad, and irritating towards everyone with some common sense.
They makes this album almost unbearingly to listen to IMO.

Sorry to say, for me The Rainbow Children wasn't an improvement over New Power Soul and Rave. It was different, sure, but personally my respect for Prince as a musician and lyricist was at an all time low point when he released that album.

I see Musicology and 3121 as a slight improvement.

Riverpoet31 said:

you are crazy!

Riverpoet31 said:

Well everyone is different, and we all have differing musical tastes, histories, and experiences. Couple that with the fact that Prince has the most diverse fan base of anyone, and you'll find equally diverse favourite and least favourite selections from his listeners.

I see 'The Rainbow Children' as a musically fulfilling album, with the greatest sense of flow and theme since 'Lovesexy'. He's simply never played guitar, bass, or keys like that on any other recording. Lyrically it doesn't bother me, and I "get" the story. Although there R a few songs on 'The Gold Experience' I like... "Dolphin", "Endorphin Machine", and maybe "Shy", the rest I can barely stomach. The lyrics of "P Control" and "319" R awful, and nearly hurt me 2 listen 2. The segues on 'The Gold Experience' drive me nuts.

That all being said, I return now 2 my point... we all like different aspects of Prince's music, because 4 one, his music (and lyrics) R very diverse, and secondly, we R diverse.

Peace.

~G
[Edited 6/20/07 12:47pm]

Giovanni777 said:

well said chief.
I also can't stomach most of the GE album. I must also agree with u on your choice of exceptions.

Let me just say the worst on that album, 4 me, must be "Billy Jack Bitch" and "Gold". Both these songs on 1st listening made me feel nauseous, and yet some people will call them classics and praise to heaven and beyond.

Although RC is a lot to digest I loved it, and still do.

you're right there's so much diversion in prince lovers.

Papaj said:

If i said those were fake, clearly i was wrong, he sampled clare fischers strings... its pretty obvious those are real btw. He "sampled" those just like he sampled on the first track on NEWS.. but I do remember saying the rest of the shit on that album was about as fake as it has ever been. Strings on The Dance? Fake as fuck.

ridiculous sounding.. its ridiculous for 98% of the r&b world to "sample", use fake drum programming, and use keyboards as a primary sound for every single track... and then claim their ass is "playing all the instruments".. if your gonna do it, at least sound somewhat interesting. reinvent the wheel..

give me a fucking break.. i could do that instrumentation with my nut sack. oh yeah, get a fucking spell check on your explorer & stop hanging on every one of my words. I bet you've been waiting two years to say that.

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[Edited 6/20/07 20:29pm]

A little promo banner I slapped together for fun.

UndercovaBrotha said:

good one

Sdldawn said:

He did not "sample" Clare Fischer's strings, Clare Fischer wrote the orchestral arrangement specifically for this song as he's done it for many P songs before. CF had an interview on Housequake not too long ago, and that describes how he works for Prince quite well.

The only things "fake" on "3121" I can find are the synthi sax on "The Word" and the synthi strings on "The Dance". Not exactly a lot for someone who has made almost whole albums with synthesizers ("1999"?). And, if you really think about it, it makes sense on these two songs, having in mind the atmosphere/feeling they have or describe.

So based on the titles alone, pick a third and fourth single for the album (Guitar is obviously the first, and it sounds like Somewhere Here On Earth will be the second, or at least a single at some point). My guesses are:

Single #2: Somewhere Here On Earth
Single #3: The One U Wanna C
Single #4: Future Baby Mama

Your picks?

booyah said:

there was a picture somewhere of the album cover with a sticker on it
purple with gold lettering.

those kind of stickers always say stuff like "the new album by prince
featuring the smash hits guitar and... ... ..."

i'm surprised no one has magnified that picture yet. i would try if i
knew where to locate that pic.


based purely on titles and xperience, i would say guitar is the first
single and there will only be one other before either prince loses all
interest in the project or the record company refuses to release any
other singles.

Rightly said:

...and those damn segues on 'The Gold Experience'...

All of this Gold Experience hate makes me sad.

Few details on the new album found on the sonymusic store web site.

Musical genius and cultural icon Prince is back at the cutting edge with Planet Earth. Masterfully delving in myriad styles and flavors, this bold new record marks an extraordinary stylistic growth from an artist whose catalogue seemingly couldn't be topped. From head-bopping rock to soul-heavy funk to rich and sensual smooth jazz, this multi-textured and brilliant album is perhaps Prince's most eclectic and excellent album to date.

Things quickly heat up with the hit first single, "Guitar," on which the legendary axe man totally rocks out the title instrument, crafting the most addictively catchy and air-solo inducing tracks of the year. Cool and sexy, this blazing rock number assures us that Prince is once again at the top of his game. On the tenderly beautiful "Somewhere Here On Earth," the artist displays his most sensitive side, crafting a deliciously smooth jazz ballad with a delicate piano sound and sensual muted trumpet, all behind Prince's gorgeous and intimate falsetto. With his remarkable new album, Prince once again proves himself as being among the most influential songwriters, singers, musicians, and producers on Planet Earth.

Merritt said:

Merritt said:

When i read this Promo ad > ...i Don't xpect a new 1999/Purple rain or SOTT here.....This album will be(maybe) in the vein of Musicology & 3121 .....i'm afraid Now that Prince loose his creativity 4ever:-|
[Edited 6/21/07 10:03am]

Heard "Guitar" on a local Houston radio station this morning.

Hey, all smooth jazz isn't bad. TRC was largely in that vein and P has dabbled in some jazzy territory previously with When the Lights Go Down and the 8 minute version of She Spoke to Me on The Vault. Much of the Cream maxi-single was jazzy.

"...perhaps Prince's most eclectic and excellent album to date."


My whistle is whetted.
[Edited 6/21/07 13:03pm]

Smooth jazz, not bad at all...

Strollin', Other side of the pillow, Damn U

Very delicious, when served in the right doses

Riverpoet31 said:

yeah very funny! you have heard Rainbow Children have you?

clarityman said:

You should accept other peoples opinions. I like TRC. It is a jam record, with a few pop songs. In my opinion, e.g. 3121 was a stronger record than TRC, Because it had more complete and catchy songs. But i have to agree, that, in my opinion, Rave and especiallx NPS are way weaker than TRC...

tainacher said:

I didn't reject the opinion did I? I wasn't sure if it was a humourous remark or if he had in fact listened to TRC in full

just checked the "leaked planet earth".. it was fake.

Riverpoet31 said:

Personnally, TRC is in my Prince top 4. It is the album I did not expect anymore from Prince. In terms of musicianship, I would even say it is his best effort to date.
Everything is great on this cd : the musical "texture", the musicianship, the complexity and sophistication of most compositions, the flow, the voices, the arrangements and the amazing John Blackwell.
TRC was a new road for Prince, showing that he could renew himself without picking in his past tricks.
NPS and Rave were very average cds (I thought Rave was so bad I smashed the CD after a few listens !).
Musicology was ok. 3121 was pretty good.
But I think there are fans who like the "mainstream" prince and those who like the adventurous one. That's the last one I'm really interested in.
TRC is a masterpiece. I don't even care about the vocoder. I really dig it in fact. And regarding the religious aspects, I don't give a flying fuck.
[Edited 6/22/07 5:15am]