armybrat said:

Well done - you prove my point entirely!

Why not mix creativity with drugs - its what artists have been doing for 1000s of years - if you don't see that. you're seriously deluded! Most users use that as an excuse do they? Do you have evidence to support that claim, or are you just relying on your bias to suppose a reason?

Its the same bias that leads you to state almost as though you know it is factually correct (when you can't) that Prince doesn't do/hasn't done drugs. You lambast everyone else for not being able to accept the fact that Prince could be "clean" (another marvellous propoganda word that!), yet you clearly and illogically cannot accept the possibility that Prince has tried drugs.

Furthermore, I didn't say you can't be creative without drugs. Only a fool would say that and, I'm afraid, only a fool would infer that from my post. However, it is true that drugs may enhance creativity or certainly give it a different slant - its just a different experience. But again, funny how most of the best art has been created by "users" - its a fact. Disprove it if you can/want.

No, its not just the US government that peddles mis-information - again, is this news to you? Governments all over the world have lied about a great many things in their efforts to keep control. You are also wrong to tie in that users are right because drugs make them creative. That is not what I said and you have seriously missed the point (hmmm, noticing a pattern here?) For someone who's "clean", you don't seem to think with much clarity.

Ok - why don't you list all of the great artists you know that died because of drugs. Then make a comparitive list of those great artists that are still here today and have used drugs - I think you'll find the survivors list is lengthier than those that died. Keith Richards took more drugs than most other artists put together and he's still here. MacCartney, Jagger, Plant and Paige, Clapton, Bowie, Gilmour, Waters - all still here, all still revered.

Those that sadly passed before their time - well, there's an interesting correlation there too. Let's take 3 of the most famous examples;

Hendrix - died choking on his own vomit from a mix of illegal drugs and the legal drug alcohol. (which drug do you think was responsible for the vomiting?)

Morrison - see above

Bonham - again, down to vodka.

Want to give me your own examples, particularly of artists who died purely from illegal drug consumption? I'd love to see you substantiate your claims, otherwise you are as guilty as the many governments of this world of spreading mis-information.
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Just to back up my, apparently, "crazy" assertions, consider the following;

Deaths in the US Year 2000

Tobacco 435,000
Alcohol 85,000
Advers reactions to prescribed drugs 32,000
ASPIRIN 7,600
Heroin 4,280
Ecstasy (MDMA) 63
LSD 0
Marijuana 0

What would any rational, logical person conclude from those figures?

So, in hindsight, I would say the craziest statement (at least, on this page) was from jacobpb when he said "Gee don't forget aspirin. Laughable."

What is laughable is the amount of people who will swallow what they're fed without doing a bit of research themselves.

Again, I'm moved to quote Bill Hicks "Go back to sleep America, you're government has it all figured out for you. Go back to sleep America, here's 100 channels of American Gladiators for you....."

thebanishedone said:

I would certainly think not... THAT is a very clear headed Prince. The interview was rehearsed and staged to hell with his own manager asking pre-approved questions.

jtfolden said:

I haven't seen that interview since back then, but i'll never forget it. I thought he was on another planet! It may have been rehearsed and staged, but he didn't seem connected. Doesn't necessarily mean he was on drugs, though...

jay-sus, of course he did.
you don't expect him to be a multi-millionaire pop/rock star in America in the 80s and not do drugs, do you? ev'rybody in showbiz did coke and horse in the 80s, this was the way 2 party back then!
doesn't he say at the very beginning of Lovesexy "the reason my voice is clear is because there's no smack on my brain" or some such thing? [smack being of course slang for heroin]. he did a lot of that shit, and most probably stopped b4 doing the Lovesexy album.
since then, who knows. my guess would be he stayed clean most of the time, but still took a bite of something once in a while. but that's only a guess.

grow up, girl.

I was checking out the JW thread here and I commented to my mom about it. I was saying how people make such a big deal out of it cuz he gave up his "dirty" work and cursing. She said how JW don't do drugs or drink, which I'm aware of. Then I said "I dont think he ever did drugs"... and she's like speaking to me in a tone that says "get a reality check".
My dad then commented, "He did A LOT"

I can't bring myself to believe a word of that cuz then that would make his music more of an illusion rather than something that came from his soul.

Does anyone know for sure if he really did do drugs in his younger days?

planetChar said:

u dont need 2 do drugs 2 be on another planet- most people who know me think im on a different planet most days- and i dont do drugs

Prince's Music still comes from his soul whether or not he tried any drugs or drinks some alcohol.
i enjoy my Wine. As far as history is concerned so did Jesus.

Just to back up my, apparently, "crazy" assertions, consider the following;

Deaths in the US Year 2000

Tobacco 435,000
Alcohol 85,000
Advers reactions to prescribed drugs 32,000
ASPIRIN 7,600
Heroin 4,280
Ecstasy (MDMA) 63
LSD 0
Marijuana 0

What would any rational, logical person conclude from those figures?

So, in hindsight, I would say the craziest statement (at least, on this page) was from jacobpb when he said "Gee don't forget aspirin. Laughable."

What is laughable is the amount of people who will swallow what they're fed without doing a bit of research themselves.

Again, I'm moved to quote Bill Hicks "Go back to sleep America, you're government has it all figured out for you. Go back to sleep America, here's 100 channels of American Gladiators for you....."

I had my first E 2 weeks ago and god damn it was great,,,wonderful experience, but yeah dont do drugs

xplnyrslf said:

ME

Uhhh....who HASN'T done drugs?

xplnyrslf said:

ME

in a 1994 interview when asked about drugs he said:im opend to any kind of expiriances