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Reply #60 posted 05/21/07 11:12pm

jtfolden

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Graycap23 said:

I've been in that same ENVIRONMENT for 25 plus years and I've NEVER tried drugs. That's B.S.


You've never even drunk a beer?
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Reply #61 posted 05/22/07 5:40am

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LexNevermind said:

We will never know...but the rock n' roll glam life style....plenty of access to tha best of errythang..and Prince's craazy ear for chords.... hangin with Morris and Alex O'neal,them crazy outfits back in tha day, his quirkiness and that vid of him on stage with JB and MJ...and with him growing up in tha 70's..heyal yeah P has tried dope befoe.....


That's a bunch of bull. Gene Simmons never did drugs!
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Reply #62 posted 05/22/07 5:50am

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Uhhh....who HASN'T done drugs? biggrin

I raise my hand biggrin
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Reply #63 posted 05/22/07 5:52am

LittleSmedley

I don't think Prince ever did drugs to any degree. He's ALL about control, of his music, life, career. And he's prudish (surprisingly).
U just couldn't maintain the work ethic that he has over the years if u got into drugs significantly. And looking spaced out is not the same as being high. The performance with JB and MJ just shows him paralyzed by nerves IMO.
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Reply #64 posted 05/22/07 7:03am

xplnyrslf

I honestly have to say, congrats to all who've never done nor tried drugs. lol
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Reply #65 posted 05/22/07 7:11am

parishilton

prince IS drugs. he can make ya high, mellow, horny, mad.. he's a hard habit to break, costs alot of money, ur desperate when u cant get more, n there's always a risk of O.D.ing.

on that note, imma have one more line of coke, half a bottle of sleeping pills with 7 shots of scotch n i'm off to bed. biggrin
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Reply #66 posted 05/22/07 7:32am

Graycap23

jtfolden said:

Graycap23 said:

I've been in that same ENVIRONMENT for 25 plus years and I've NEVER tried drugs. That's B.S.


You've never even drunk a beer?


I've had less than 6 beers in my ENTIRE life. Don't dig the taste of alcohol.
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Reply #67 posted 05/22/07 10:36am

Shorty

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Graycap23 said:

LOOK at Prince. Does he look like the result of someone who has done a LOT of drugs? After 30 years in this BUSINESS? Get real.


there's a whole lot of room in between NONE and a LOT right?
I believe Prince has INDEED done some drugs...but none to excess...and always had a handle on it.
he most certainly drinks wine...but not beer.

gimme a cold one! beer
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #68 posted 05/22/07 1:09pm

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Graycap23 said:

jtfolden said:



You've never even drunk a beer?


I've had less than 6 beers in my ENTIRE life. Don't dig the taste of alcohol.



That's fine... I generally hate the taste myself. However, alcohol IS a drug - therefore you have tried drugs in your life.
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Reply #69 posted 05/22/07 1:10pm

Graycap23

jtfolden said:

Graycap23 said:



I've had less than 6 beers in my ENTIRE life. Don't dig the taste of alcohol.



That's fine... I generally hate the taste myself. However, alcohol IS a drug - therefore you have tried drugs in your life.

Lol.....if u say so.
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Reply #70 posted 05/22/07 1:25pm

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Graycap23 said:

jtfolden said:




That's fine... I generally hate the taste myself. However, alcohol IS a drug - therefore you have tried drugs in your life.

Lol.....if u say so.


Not me... it's a fact.
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Reply #71 posted 05/22/07 3:07pm

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Shorty said:

Graycap23 said:

LOOK at Prince. Does he look like the result of someone who has done a LOT of drugs? After 30 years in this BUSINESS? Get real.


there's a whole lot of room in between NONE and a LOT right?
I believe Prince has INDEED done some drugs...but none to excess...and always had a handle on it.
he most certainly drinks wine...but not beer.

gimme a cold one! beer


Right I can't see why the topic has to be all or nothing. While he certainly doesn't seem to have ever been strung out, he more than likely has taken some drugs.
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Reply #72 posted 05/22/07 6:13pm

Mindflux

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Graycap23 said:

jtfolden said:




That's fine... I generally hate the taste myself. However, alcohol IS a drug - therefore you have tried drugs in your life.

Lol.....if u say so.


Well, it is an important point Graycap23 - alcohol IS a drug.

And, do you drink coffee? Why do so many people drink coffee (and tea for that matter)?? No, nothing to do with the drug caffeine being present, is it?

Such a banal thread and incredible to see just how many people are hoodwinked by government propoganda that implies just because they say its bad, it must be - so people have this completely illogical view that all illegal drugs are really bad for you and all those lovely government-approved ones aren't!

Most people here will pop a pill for a headache without even thinking about it. Have you actually read the side-effects of most painkillers - take the wrong dose and you could be in big trouble. Yet, for them, that's different to taking "illiegal" drugs.

Yet, most of the best art, certainly alot of the best music, was created by people who liked to get high. Shakespeare was famous for his opium intake, as was the novelist Shelley. Van Gogh was addicted to absinthe (double drug that one - alcohol and wormwood - a potent hallucinogen). And then look at all the greatest musicians of our time - The Beatles, Stones, Doors, Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Zeppelin - all major caners, all great artists.

To quote the late and great Bill Hicks;

"I mean why do we fear these things? I don't get it. I think an attitude of compassion might help us alot more than fear, personally. Y'know? And I figured out a way to perhaps make everyone happy about drugs, are ya ready? How about this? Here's a way we can do it, make everyone happy. For those people who believe drugs should be legalised, legalise them. And, for those people who believe they should'nt be, they're not, they never were, don't worry, we're cracking down. There! Now everyone is happy. I am the weaver!

Drugs have done good things for us, if you don't believe they have, do me a favour - take all your albums, tapes and CDs and burn em cos you know what, the musicians who made that great music that has enhanced your lives throughout the years? Rrrrreal fucking high, ha ha ha ho ho. ok

And these other musicians today who don't do drugs and in fact speak out against them? Boy, do they suck! What a coincidence! Ball-less, souless, spiritless corporate little bitches, suckers of Satan's cock, each and every one of them. Gnorr. "We're rock stars against drugs cos that's what the President wants." Aw, suck Satan's cock. That's what we want isn't it, government approved rock n roll? Whooh, we're partying now!!"

And just had to include this!! lol

"George Bush says 'we are losing the war on drugs'. Well you know what that implies? There's a war going on, and people on drugs are winning it! Well what does that tell you about drugs? Some smart, creative motherfuckers on that side!"
...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...

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Reply #73 posted 05/22/07 6:50pm

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Mindflux said:

Graycap23 said:


Lol.....if u say so.


Well, it is an important point Graycap23 - alcohol IS a drug.

And, do you drink coffee? Why do so many people drink coffee (and tea for that matter)?? No, nothing to do with the drug caffeine being present, is it?

Such a banal thread and incredible to see just how many people are hoodwinked by government propoganda that implies just because they say its bad, it must be - so people have this completely illogical view that all illegal drugs are really bad for you and all those lovely government-approved ones aren't!

Most people here will pop a pill for a headache without even thinking about it. Have you actually read the side-effects of most painkillers - take the wrong dose and you could be in big trouble. Yet, for them, that's different to taking "illiegal" drugs.

Yet, most of the best art, certainly alot of the best music, was created by people who liked to get high. Shakespeare was famous for his opium intake, as was the novelist Shelley. Van Gogh was addicted to absinthe (double drug that one - alcohol and wormwood - a potent hallucinogen). And then look at all the greatest musicians of our time - The Beatles, Stones, Doors, Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Zeppelin - all major caners, all great artists.

To quote the late and great Bill Hicks;

"I mean why do we fear these things? I don't get it. I think an attitude of compassion might help us alot more than fear, personally. Y'know? And I figured out a way to perhaps make everyone happy about drugs, are ya ready? How about this? Here's a way we can do it, make everyone happy. For those people who believe drugs should be legalised, legalise them. And, for those people who believe they should'nt be, they're not, they never were, don't worry, we're cracking down. There! Now everyone is happy. I am the weaver!

Drugs have done good things for us, if you don't believe they have, do me a favour - take all your albums, tapes and CDs and burn em cos you know what, the musicians who made that great music that has enhanced your lives throughout the years? Rrrrreal fucking high, ha ha ha ho ho. ok

And these other musicians today who don't do drugs and in fact speak out against them? Boy, do they suck! What a coincidence! Ball-less, souless, spiritless corporate little bitches, suckers of Satan's cock, each and every one of them. Gnorr. "We're rock stars against drugs cos that's what the President wants." Aw, suck Satan's cock. That's what we want isn't it, government approved rock n roll? Whooh, we're partying now!!"

And just had to include this!! lol

"George Bush says 'we are losing the war on drugs'. Well you know what that implies? There's a war going on, and people on drugs are winning it! Well what does that tell you about drugs? Some smart, creative motherfuckers on that side!"



Hey don't mix creativity with drugs. Most of the users use the same excuse to do drugs. You can be creative without drugs and Prince , alongwith some other great artists, is a fine example. You talk about Govt propoganda in the US - well, it's not just the US but almost all countries in the world which have banned drugs - except maybe some which have permitted Marijuana. Hence going by your logic, every damn govt in the world is wrong and drug users are right since drugs fuel creativity. It's better off living without such creativity which kills people. You talk about music created by great artists when they were on drugs, why don't you talk about all the great artists who died because of drugs . KUdos to all who have not touched drugs
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Reply #74 posted 05/22/07 7:31pm

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but how can we be sure prince never used drugs
on purple rain tour ,parade tour lovesexy he had some crazy look in his eyes
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Reply #75 posted 05/22/07 8:10pm

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DreamyPopRoyalty said:

luvsexy4all said:

man, this , the gay thing and TRC are topics that wont die.

if you are competent and able to decipher, you should be able to figure it out rather than go by other's opinions


i just wanna know the truth. That's all.

the only reference I heard was the rumor that he pulled The Black Album cuz it was a result of a trip on ectasy... still dont know if i believe it or not... id willingly accept it if it were true, though.


If you want 2 know the truth the only one who can tell you that is Prince. The rest of this stuff is assumption or hear-say. No one really knows whether Prince has done drugs or not {Although I really don't think he has} unless they were there when it was given 2 him or they were the ones giving it 2 him. eek [None of ya'll gave Prince any drugs right!] razz
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Reply #76 posted 05/22/07 11:10pm

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Only the naivest neophyte would think Prince never did drugs. I'm sure he's done the occasional toke or toot, but probably nothing too hard. He's so sensitive and his antennae for weirdness are so finely tuned he probably doesn't need much stimulation to get him going.

Having said that, it's interesting to me how the alleged ecstasy trip in '88 plays out like the story of the Tree of Knowledge, like Prince consumed something forbidden that gave him special enlightenment. The whole Lovesexy thing was a religious awakening, after all, and the first song on that album announces that he "knows." A few years later, he would proclaim he "knows from righteous, he knows from sin," which is precisely what happened to Adam and Eve after eating the fruit.

Consider also the many occult elements in Prince's work around that time: references to soothsaying, prophesy ("Crystal Ball," "The Future"), witches ("Dorothy Parker," "Shockadelica"), astrology ("Arms of Orion"), and the emergence of a curious alternate personality in Camille, and a new devil analog Spooky Electric. There's always been a diabolic component to Prince's music, but never more pronounced than this period. In this context, the X trip sounds more and more like an invitation from dark forces to tempt fate and be as God.

But knowledge comes at a price: Lovesexy marked the beginning of Prince's decline, as an artist and as a superstar, and his eventual split from his business home, Warner Brothers, would send him deeper into the pop cultural wilderness--all which echo the Fall of Man and his expulsion from paradise.

So the moral of the story is: Just Say No!
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Reply #77 posted 05/23/07 12:16am

LexNevermind

girl66 said:

LexNevermind said:

We will never know...but the rock n' roll glam life style....plenty of access to tha best of errythang..and Prince's craazy ear for chords.... hangin with Morris and Alex O'neal,them crazy outfits back in tha day, his quirkiness and that vid of him on stage with JB and MJ...and with him growing up in tha 70's..heyal yeah P has tried dope befoe.....


That's a bunch of bull. Gene Simmons never did drugs!

Not so fast..as a member of the 40 plus club and a fan of "The Phantom" KISS movies as a kid ( remember those?) I distinctly remember Gene Simmons in a rock mag gulping from a bottle Seagrams Gin ....alcohol counts a a drug right?...
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Reply #78 posted 05/23/07 6:46am

girl66

LexNevermind said:

girl66 said:



That's a bunch of bull. Gene Simmons never did drugs!

Not so fast..as a member of the 40 plus club and a fan of "The Phantom" KISS movies as a kid ( remember those?) I distinctly remember Gene Simmons in a rock mag gulping from a bottle Seagrams Gin ....alcohol counts a a drug right?...


No, were not counting alcohol here. I myself am talking about street drugs. Illegal street drugs, Manufactured, sold, and used illegally.
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Reply #79 posted 05/23/07 8:27am

dag

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DreamyPopRoyalty said:

girl66 said:



ME biggrin


yeah... me too.

a lot of people in my college drink... i never got into that at all. but im 20, so im still kinda underage... but even if i was of age, i still wouldnt

Same here.

I am not sure if Prince has ever done drugs though.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really donĀ“t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #80 posted 05/23/07 9:53am

luvsexy4all

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Only the naivest neophyte would think Prince never did drugs. I'm sure he's done the occasional toke or toot, but probably nothing too hard. He's so sensitive and his antennae for weirdness are so finely tuned he probably doesn't need much stimulation to get him going.

Having said that, it's interesting to me how the alleged ecstasy trip in '88 plays out like the story of the Tree of Knowledge, like Prince consumed something forbidden that gave him special enlightenment. The whole Lovesexy thing was a religious awakening, after all, and the first song on that album announces that he "knows." A few years later, he would proclaim he "knows from righteous, he knows from sin," which is precisely what happened to Adam and Eve after eating the fruit.

Consider also the many occult elements in Prince's work around that time: references to soothsaying, prophesy ("Crystal Ball," "The Future"), witches ("Dorothy Parker," "Shockadelica"), astrology ("Arms of Orion"), and the emergence of a curious alternate personality in Camille, and a new devil analog Spooky Electric. There's always been a diabolic component to Prince's music, but never more pronounced than this period. In this context, the X trip sounds more and more like an invitation from dark forces to tempt fate and be as God.

But knowledge comes at a price: Lovesexy marked the beginning of Prince's decline, as an artist and as a superstar, and his eventual split from his business home, Warner Brothers, would send him deeper into the pop cultural wilderness--all which echo the Fall of Man and his expulsion from paradise.

So the moral of the story is: Just Say No!






between black and white
night and day

black night seemed like the only way
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Reply #81 posted 05/23/07 9:56am

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parishilton said:

prince IS drugs. he can make ya high, mellow, horny, mad.. he's a hard habit to break, costs alot of money, ur desperate when u cant get more, n there's always a risk of O.D.ing.

on that note, imma have one more line of coke, half a bottle of sleeping pills with 7 shots of scotch n i'm off to bed. biggrin



come on...it is written..everyone on this site knows PRINCE is VAGINA...not drugs
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Reply #82 posted 05/23/07 11:50am

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parishilton said:

prince IS drugs. he can make ya high, mellow, horny, mad.. he's a hard habit to break, costs alot of money, ur desperate when u cant get more, n there's always a risk of O.D.ing.

I heart this answer
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because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #83 posted 05/23/07 11:58am

Flowerz

No ..

ppl who use drugs.. have characteristics n 'signs' that identify themselves as drug users .. ppl who drink alcohol have a 'look' .. and when u see them .. u know they drink (hardcore).. ppl who smoke weed have a 'look' and u can pick them out in a crowd.. anybody who has experimented with drugs knows.. Prince doesnt do them .. as someone said.. he did B-12 shots for all the dancing on the stage .. and tried X once during the Black Album days (got messed up) hence 'Anna Stesia'.. that whole song was about his experience.. (was a thread on it .. Greg n Ingrid was there that night) ... and plus would have been ppl around him to witness it.. why would anyone lie for him? if he was doing it .. I dont believe he would have written and performed great music .. with drugs in his system.. he would have loved them more than music..
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Reply #84 posted 05/23/07 12:09pm

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i dont want prince to be drug user but its naive to think he did extacy only once and thats it
i think he smokes weed or smoked weed.i dont think he did heroin
cocaine maybe
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Reply #85 posted 05/23/07 12:12pm

Etorres

That tried X one time is lame. How do go to doing X one time when you have tried no other drugs? My own mind says he has got high before perhaps as in his younger days. More than one night on X.
And I have met many people who get high and you would not ever known.So I have to disagree with people who get high look like it. Perhaps junkies and hardcore users ...but casual users are all around you.....and you would not ever know it.


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Reply #86 posted 05/23/07 12:17pm

girl66

Etorres said:

That tried X one time is lame. How do go to doing X one time when you have tried no other drugs? My own mind says he has got high before perhaps as in his younger days. More than one night on X.
And I have met many people who get high and you would not ever known.So I have to disagree with people who get high look like it. Perhaps junkies and hardcore users ...but casual users are all around you.....and you would not ever know it.


Peace .....


That is very true. And I don't think if he did any other drugs he would have gone out in public. He wouldn't want to not be in control of the situation at all times.
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Reply #87 posted 05/23/07 12:29pm

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Mindflux said:

Graycap23 said:


Lol.....if u say so.


Well, it is an important point Graycap23 - alcohol IS a drug.

And, do you drink coffee? Why do so many people drink coffee (and tea for that matter)?? No, nothing to do with the drug caffeine being present, is it?

Such a banal thread and incredible to see just how many people are hoodwinked by government propoganda that implies just because they say its bad, it must be - so people have this completely illogical view that all illegal drugs are really bad for you and all those lovely government-approved ones aren't!

Most people here will pop a pill for a headache without even thinking about it. Have you actually read the side-effects of most painkillers - take the wrong dose and you could be in big trouble. Yet, for them, that's different to taking "illiegal" drugs.

Yet, most of the best art, certainly alot of the best music, was created by people who liked to get high. Shakespeare was famous for his opium intake, as was the novelist Shelley. Van Gogh was addicted to absinthe (double drug that one - alcohol and wormwood - a potent hallucinogen). And then look at all the greatest musicians of our time - The Beatles, Stones, Doors, Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Zeppelin - all major caners, all great artists.

To quote the late and great Bill Hicks;

"I mean why do we fear these things? I don't get it. I think an attitude of compassion might help us alot more than fear, personally. Y'know? And I figured out a way to perhaps make everyone happy about drugs, are ya ready? How about this? Here's a way we can do it, make everyone happy. For those people who believe drugs should be legalised, legalise them. And, for those people who believe they should'nt be, they're not, they never were, don't worry, we're cracking down. There! Now everyone is happy. I am the weaver!

Drugs have done good things for us, if you don't believe they have, do me a favour - take all your albums, tapes and CDs and burn em cos you know what, the musicians who made that great music that has enhanced your lives throughout the years? Rrrrreal fucking high, ha ha ha ho ho. ok

And these other musicians today who don't do drugs and in fact speak out against them? Boy, do they suck! What a coincidence! Ball-less, souless, spiritless corporate little bitches, suckers of Satan's cock, each and every one of them. Gnorr. "We're rock stars against drugs cos that's what the President wants." Aw, suck Satan's cock. That's what we want isn't it, government approved rock n roll? Whooh, we're partying now!!"

And just had to include this!! lol

"George Bush says 'we are losing the war on drugs'. Well you know what that implies? There's a war going on, and people on drugs are winning it! Well what does that tell you about drugs? Some smart, creative motherfuckers on that side!"



You mean Coleridge, no? First I've heard that ol' Shaxpere enjoyed the laudanum!
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Reply #88 posted 05/23/07 1:35pm

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girl66 said:

No, were not counting alcohol here. I myself am talking about street drugs. Illegal street drugs, Manufactured, sold, and used illegally.


Who's WE?

Alcohol is a drug and I am most certainly counting it... So, we do know that Prince has done at least one drug, illegal or not.
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Reply #89 posted 05/23/07 2:34pm

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jtfolden said:

girl66 said:

No, were not counting alcohol here. I myself am talking about street drugs. Illegal street drugs, Manufactured, sold, and used illegally.


Who's WE?

Alcohol is a drug and I am most certainly counting it... So, we do know that Prince has done at least one drug, illegal or not.


Yeah, my question was about drugs in general.
But alcohol never really came to mind when it comes to Prince. He doesn't seem like the type that gets drunk... not to me, he doesn't.
I'd have to ask him myself to be absolutely sure, but I'm pretty confident that I already know the answer to my question.
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