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Thread started 05/22/07 9:03am

MikeMatronik

what songs did Prince STEAL...coof..coof...I mean did not give credit to others?

An example is Power Fantastic.
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Reply #1 posted 05/22/07 9:11am

RodeoSchro

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Reply #2 posted 05/22/07 9:20am

parishilton

MikeMatronik said:

An example is Power Fantastic.


Late at night, when the world is sleeping
U r frightened, 'cause the Power's creeping
In your room is something u're afraid of
Life or doom is what this feelings made of
Power Fantastic
Is in your life at last
U're a little apprehensive
'Cause what it is is what u want and need

Minor G is the chord of pleasure
It will be played eleven measures
U will see fire, but u're cool as ice
U lie if u say this isn't nice.

Power Fantastic
Is in your life at last
U're a little apprehensive
What it is is what u want and need

Power, Power

Power Fantastic
Is in your life at last
U're a wee bit apprehensive
'Cause what it is is what u want and need

Power, Power, Power Fantastic
Love Beauty
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Reply #3 posted 05/22/07 10:00am

LittleSmedley

a lot of the Wendy/Lisa sounding stuff

"Moonbeam Levels" never sounds like a Prince lyric to me
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Reply #4 posted 05/22/07 10:03am

nobias

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MikeMatronik said:

An example is Power Fantastic.


"Do Me Baby" was allegedly written by Andre Cymone
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Reply #5 posted 05/22/07 10:12am

SlamGlam

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Party Up
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Reply #6 posted 05/22/07 10:16am

Raze

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quite a bit of Morris Day and Andre Cymone stuff, IIRC. and a lot of Wendy & Lisa stuff. but that was a much more collaborative relationship, so I don't think he outright stole from them. they were on the payroll.
"Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran
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Reply #7 posted 05/22/07 10:20am

SirPsycho

Kiss...(arrangement wise) once i heard the original acoustic blues version and the mazariti version- i never looked at lips the same again (it wouldn't be the hit it was 2day with mazarati's version tho)
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Reply #8 posted 05/22/07 10:56am

jess555ja

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Kiss...(arrangement wise) once i heard the original acoustic blues version and the mazariti version- i never looked at lips the same again (it wouldn't be the hit it was 2day with mazarati's version tho)

nod Prince's original version was completely different.
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Reply #9 posted 05/22/07 10:59am

SMARTYSOFT

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nobias said:

MikeMatronik said:

An example is Power Fantastic.


"Do Me Baby" was allegedly written by Andre Cymone



I'm glad P did it! I would never want to "DO" andre'
If I could be muse 2 the Pharoah......
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Reply #10 posted 05/22/07 10:59am

jess555ja

I believe that I heard that Wendy and Lisa wrote Mountains or had some type of input in its lyrics. Were they credited for it?
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Reply #11 posted 05/22/07 11:00am

jess555ja

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Reply #12 posted 05/22/07 11:00am

jess555ja

SMARTYSOFT said:

nobias said:



"Do Me Baby" was allegedly written by Andre Cymone



I'm glad P did it! I would never want to "DO" andre'

lol
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Reply #13 posted 05/22/07 12:47pm

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jess555ja said:

I believe that I heard that Wendy and Lisa wrote Mountains or had some type of input in its lyrics. Were they credited for it?

Yes:

Claimant: Controversy Music, Wendy Melvoin & Lisa Coleman
Created: 1986
Published: 31 March 1986
Registered: 21 Apr 1986
Author on © Application: words and music: Prince Nelson a.k.a. Prince, Wendy Melvoin & Lisa Coleman.

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ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift.
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Reply #14 posted 05/22/07 1:01pm

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MikeMatronik said:

An example is Power Fantastic.

Prince didn't give credit on the 'Crystal Ball' release liner notes.

Their credit has been registered at the Library of Congress:

Registration Number: PA-669-560
Title: Power Fantastic.
Note: Performed by Prince.
In: The hits/the B-sides. Paisley Park/WB 9 45440-2, c 1993. 3 compact discs
Claimant: Controversy Music & Girl Brothers Music
Created: 1993
Published: 14 September 1993
Registered: 26 October 1993
Author on © Application: words & music: Rogers Nelson p.k.a. Prince, Wendy Melvoin, & Lisa Coleman.

and ASCAP:

POWER FANTASTIC
(Title Code: 460337304)
Writers: COLEMAN LISA MELVOIN WENDY PRINCE
ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift.
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Reply #15 posted 05/22/07 1:15pm

machinegun

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well, an essential part of Purple Rain, the opening chords with those gorgeous 9ths, was Wendy's input. I can't imagine the song starting with straight major chords, it would not be the same.

Source: Purple Rain special edition DVD.
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Reply #16 posted 05/22/07 2:01pm

RodeoSchro

I do not know why threads like this hack me off so much, but to think Prince is a thief is just beyond bizarre. Stop trying to make him sound like Joyce Hatto.

Geez, would a thief have called Journey and given them a heads-up on "Purple Rain", and even offered to pay them?

This thread is rolleyes
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Reply #17 posted 05/22/07 2:01pm

RodeoSchro

machinegun said:

well, an essential part of Purple Rain, the opening chords with those gorgeous 9ths, was Wendy's input. I can't imagine the song starting with straight major chords, it would not be the same.

Source: Purple Rain special edition DVD.


And nowhere did Wendy say, "Prince ripped me off!" so why would you bring this up under the context of "what songs did Prince STEAL"?
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Reply #18 posted 05/22/07 2:45pm

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RodeoSchro said:

machinegun said:

well, an essential part of Purple Rain, the opening chords with those gorgeous 9ths, was Wendy's input. I can't imagine the song starting with straight major chords, it would not be the same.

Source: Purple Rain special edition DVD.


And nowhere did Wendy say, "Prince ripped me off!" so why would you bring this up under the context of "what songs did Prince STEAL"?


just a credit not given that's all. I think it's a major ingredient of the song, but I'm not calling him a thief! Calm down a bit...
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Reply #19 posted 05/22/07 3:07pm

bonedaddy

confused Are you and mikek1 (whatever his name was) related? like VERY closely?? smile , just asking.
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Reply #20 posted 05/22/07 3:25pm

pennylover

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bonedaddy said:

confused Are you and mikek1 (whatever his name was) related? like VERY closely?? smile , just asking.

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Reply #21 posted 05/22/07 3:30pm

ElCapitan

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It is worth pointing out that for every song prince has been accused (often rightly) of "miscrediting", there's a gang of songs that he has not taken credit for which he definitely could have.
"What kind of fuck ending is that?"
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Reply #22 posted 05/22/07 4:19pm

bonedaddy

pennylover said:

bonedaddy said:

confused Are you and mikek1 (whatever his name was) related? like VERY closely?? smile , just asking.

falloff


Funny thing is, i'm fucking serious! smile way too similar, I thought this a few times.
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Reply #23 posted 05/23/07 12:05am

dreamshaman32

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all of the great ones are thiefs, and some of the best authors use ghost writers.
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Reply #24 posted 05/23/07 12:07am

dreamshaman32

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like most narcissist prince is lazy when it comes to this, why hunt when stalkers that look like mani are hanging around.
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Reply #25 posted 05/23/07 12:09am

Snap

as long as he gives back 2 the Creator
the creations are His
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Reply #26 posted 05/23/07 3:21am

shaomi

It's funny how this debate always comes back...
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Reply #27 posted 05/23/07 5:44am

vinx98

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i think some lady complained that "Soul Sanctuary" was stolen from her by Prince on a documentary about Prince´s "millions". I cant remember the lady´s name, she was really forgettable.
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Reply #28 posted 05/23/07 6:22am

SoulAlive

vinx98 said:

i think some lady complained that "Soul Sanctuary" was stolen from her by Prince on a documentary about Prince´s "millions". I cant remember the lady´s name, she was really forgettable.


Sandra St.Victor wink she was a member of the Family Stand

I heard that this song also features (uncredited) lyrics by Johnny Kemp
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Reply #29 posted 05/23/07 7:44am

vinx98

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SoulAlive said:

vinx98 said:

i think some lady complained that "Soul Sanctuary" was stolen from her by Prince on a documentary about Prince´s "millions". I cant remember the lady´s name, she was really forgettable.


Sandra St.Victor wink
she was a member of the Family Stand

I heard that this song also features (uncredited) lyrics by Johnny Kemp



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