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PrintableMoonbeam said: I agree. Some fans treat "Sign o' the Times" as if they created it"
Roflmao! Im stealing that one Ian! "Climb in my fur." | |
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foxylee said: i listened to it 3 times ... its lame usally there will be a song that stangs out to be as being brillant and i will go back and listen to it over and over but NOT 1 song stood out on this DOUBLE cd!!! again what shocks me most is that on cdnow.com they have it under "best of genre" !!!
now where the hell is Butterscothpimp? "Climb in my fur." | |
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classic77 said: At the time of its release many critics panned the album and it didn't sell as well as previous efforts at the time. . Am I in the twilight zone thread...many critics panned it? Huh? Album of the year in the Village Voice yearly poll, NME the same thing I believe ..many more positive reviwws. I never seen one critic pan it and I was there for damn near every article writtin about it. RS's Kurt Loder praised it but some may think he was skeptical because he felt he didnt exactly "go for it" completely. Thats another thread. "Climb in my fur." | |
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TheEnglishGent said: The important thing here is that we have a new fan and should make them feel welcome. We shouldn't make them feel small or wrong because they don't like a particular album. Prince is a unique experience, once you are into the music it's hard to get out. Unless you have been there since the beginning, there has to be something to draw you in, you start with something accesable, like D&P or Purple Rain and then, when you are getting used to it, you seek out another and are surprised to find how different it is. Then you try something new, only this time you don't like it, so you go for the next one. Then there's another and another and again, they are all different. Then one day there is nothing new and you come back to one of those lesser liked albums, only this time you are hearing it with different ears, now you suddenly hear what surely wasn't there before. Then you come to the realisation that there is so much more out there, that's when you need to hear the boots and find the unreleased stuff. One day you sit there and you start trying to take it all in, that's when it hits you, the genius that is Prince. So welcome xpsiter, glad you have found experiences that you like. Keep trying the other stuff and I am sure you will find others. The joy of discovery is a great one. I sort of agree with you on certain points but there is no reason to baby somebody..being introduced to Prince by DP etc. is just...wrong. "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: I sort of agree with you on certain points but there is no reason to baby somebody..being introduced to Prince by DP etc. is just...wrong.
lol, you do make me chuckle rd. I can never quite work out wether you are being tounge in cheek with your comments, but I am slowly getting the feeling that you are not. Anyway, I like the friction it creates with some others here, keep it up. RIP  | |
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it's hard to know what to say here.
of COURSE sign o the times is his best. i'm happy to know that. not to think it, or believe it but to KNOW it. not everyone knows it, but of course it's true. | |
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foxylee said: i m allowed to have a opinion as much as u guys ...
and we're allowed to have an opinion as much as you. and we think yours really sucks  _____________________________________________
Oh my stars and garters! | |
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I guess the answer to your original post is no. It's just you that hates it. | |
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rdhull said: classic77 said: At the time of its release many critics panned the album and it didn't sell as well as previous efforts at the time. . Am I in the twilight zone thread...many critics panned it? Huh? Album of the year in the Village Voice yearly poll, NME the same thing I believe ..many more positive reviwws. I never seen one critic pan it and I was there for damn near every article writtin about it. RS's Kurt Loder praised it but some may think he was skeptical because he felt he didnt exactly "go for it" completely. Thats another thread. Sorry if the phrasing wasn't quite right but my point was that at the time of its release it wasn't praised as it is now. | |
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They say wisdom is wasted on youth
People who listen to a wide variety of music often come back to things they had little regard for in their youth and freely revise their opinions as they come to know more about things they hardly knew. test | |
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PFunkjazz said: They say wisdom is wasted on youth
. In other words, some of the youth are fucking stupid "Climb in my fur." | |
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the only problem I have with it is..
it need to be remastered... like most of his warners bro product.. sott seems to be even lower and hard to hear then most of the warners bros prince albums | |
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paisleypark4 said: The Are No R&B songs on it?
If I Was Your Girlfriend Adore Slow Love Ballad Of Dorthy Parker Strange Relationship Fast songs on it? Housequake Its Gonna Be A Beautiful Night Play In The Sunshine U Got The Look lost ur mind! Yeah! If Adore isn't RandB damn near to the point of gospel, I don't know what is. | |
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locoarts said the only problem I have with it is..
it need to be remastered... like most of his warners bro product.. sott seems to be even lower and hard to hear then most of the warners bros prince albums The scary thing is that many new fans are only hearing P.'s 80s work via the piece of shit sounding CDs. Most of them are disgraceful and sounded like crap back in the 80s when I first bought them; that Warners is still selling this garbage 15 years later is unbelievable (I'd buy the vinyl, only I'm a complete tight wad, and think $45 for SOTT is OTT). Probably the only artist with a poorer sounding back catalogue is Bob Dylan. For me the trouble with SOTT is that half the stuff just sounds like demos. Side 3 in partic. suffers, and I much prefer the fuller sounding movie versions. But then the movie itself was not exactly perfect. Why that god damned "video" of 'U Got the Look" was slapped in the middle; well, I'll never follow the logic, especially as the live version was supposed to absolutely kill (there is a longer version of the movie that includes stuff like Kiss, no? Any hope of an Alt version on DVD?? Yeah, I can dream...). Prince always manages somehow to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, doesn't he? Little bitch! | |
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foxylee said: there are no fast,or funky or r'nb songs on it
Funky: Housequake is THE definition of funky. The bass drum kickin' and the horn section is the embodiment of FUNK PERFECTION. I suggest you hear the Mo'Quake version of Housequake as well. Slow Love and Adore are beautifully arranged R&B ballads (Adore being my favorite). Sign of the Times is not exactly something you can take in on 3 listens. I was kinda overwhelmed by it when I first bought it at 17. Housequake was my immediate favorite, then Sign of the Times grew on me. U Got the Look was a funky but rockin' tune, and If I Was Your Girlfriend had everyone (non-Prince fans) thinkin he was gay. This album was the first he made with his new band after disbanding the Revolution. He originally had more material that Wendy and Lisa co-wrote with him, but he scrapped most of it in favor of what he released, which was an experimen- tation/exploration of changing his musical style so to speak. You probably need to listen to it a few more times before you make a full judgment on it. My  | |
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rdhull said: PFunkjazz said: They say wisdom is wasted on youth
. In other words, some of the youth are fucking stupid roflmao  | |
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Hot Thang barely 21!
Hot Thang lookin 4 big fun ! Hot Thang tell me what u see ? When u smile r your smiles 4 me ? Funkiest song on the Damn record beside Housequake. But 2 each his own. | |
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Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion of course...but I cannot comprehend how any true Prince fan can possibly HATE Sign O' The Times...
That album is a true masterpiece. Prince at his best. Think about it...he gave us romance w/ Adore, made us tap our feet w/ It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night, got raunchy w/ It and then threw sprituality at us w/ The Cross. All on ONE album! So maybe, foxylee, you meant to say that "you don't care for it" or "it sounds strange to you"...but HATE??? Just can't be. By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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PurpleJedi said: Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion of course.
even if its wrong? "Climb in my fur." | |
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what makes slow love, and adore not r&b songs? what would you call an r&b song? | |
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i must admit..it took me two years to appreciate Sign of the Times...but then, i had just become a freshman in highschool and had more pressing issues then music...i wasnt even really a big prince fan till after highschool...only reason I bought the album was because i thought wendy and lisa were still with him...i was wrong...or at the time i thought i was wrong...with each year i hear alternative versions of these songs, (w/ w&l)...that was the cool part for me...all the mystery...
damn the internet for ruining that for me... | |
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 SIGN OF THE TIMES HATERS 
you people are sick twisted individuals!!! bow down to sign of the times!  *********************************************************************************************
"There are terrible temptations which it requires strength and courage to yield to" - Oscar Wilde | |
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foxylee said: there are no fast,or funky or r'nb songs on it
Just so you can start enhancing your musical knowledge, I'll point out that "fast" is not a very important attribute in funk aand certainly not r&b (where you want thear the singer's words). In funk, you'll notice the first and third beat are hit a littel harder and kinda drag, but that's what makes you shake yo' ass. Count it off on "HouseQuake" and "Hot Thang" 1 2 3 4 - 1 2 3 4 - 1 2 3 4 - 1 2 3 4 Don't forget to clap your hands! Think you got the groove, now? :Fro: [This message was edited Thu Sep 19 22:00:41 PDT 2002 by PFunkjazz] test | |
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Do you have the CDs in the player right-side-up?
Better check... If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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foxylee said: i listened to it 3 times ... its lame usally there will be a song that stangs out to be as being brillant and i will go back and listen to it over and over but NOT 1 song stood out on this DOUBLE cd!!! again what shocks me most is that on cdnow.com they have it under "best of genre" !!!
They're right. | |
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rdhull said: classic77 said: At the time of its release many critics panned the album and it didn't sell as well as previous efforts at the time. . Am I in the twilight zone thread...many critics panned it? Huh? Album of the year in the Village Voice yearly poll, NME the same thing I believe ..many more positive reviwws. I never seen one critic pan it and I was there for damn near every article writtin about it. RS's Kurt Loder praised it but some may think he was skeptical because he felt he didnt exactly "go for it" completely. Thats another thread. Nope, no Twilight Zone, you're right. I don't know who those critics are, but I've never heard or read anything even remotely unenthusiastic about it from them when it was new, nor today. And actually, I think most critics deem it his best album. [This message was edited Fri Sep 20 0:13:03 PDT 2002 by Supernova] This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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deaglestarr said: foxylee said: I already mentioned this in another topic but i just wanted to put it up 4 more people to see imo this albums wack .. there are no fast,or funky or r'nb songs on it
what does everybody esle think?i was shocked as its meant to be some of his best work! i want to be warned b4 i buy more R there any more Prince cds that sound like this 1? That has to be the dumbest thing that I have ever heard in my entire life. I want to start a petition to ban foxylee from prince.org for being a complete idiot. i second that I woke up sunday morning with no way to hold my head that didn't hurt
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foxylee said: I already mentioned this in another topic but i just wanted to put it up 4 more people to see imo this albums wack .. there are no fast,or funky or r'nb songs on it
what does everybody esle think?i was shocked as its meant to be some of his best work! i want to be warned b4 i buy more R there any more Prince cds that sound like this 1? Your clearly not a true Prince fan. Or you r quite young and got in2 Prince when he started doing the weaker stuff around the time of  ----------
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Opinions, opinions - isn't that what's great about him & his music - it evokes so much feeling in people!!
So some people don't like SOTT - it's not a crime (I know some will disagree!) The fact is some people gett off on different strains of music. I'm sure there is people out there who gett into Prince through TRC - (Although God knows where they would've heard the music prior to purchase) - If they like that they may not like some of his earlier funkier stuff like Lovesexy  etc
Each to their own - I say. But as a parting comment - You must be mad not to like SOTT!!   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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'SOTT' is definitely one of my Top 3 Prince albums (the other two would be '1999' and 'Love Symbol').It's one of Prince's strongest albums ever,filled with great songs.There's only two songs that I'm not too crazy about,"Starfish And Coffee" (kinda silly) and "It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night" (pure filler).The rest of the album is excellent.
I remember reading a review where a critic complained that the album is "unbalanced".I was like "what the...?" Would he rather Prince do a 2-record set where all the songs sound alike? Sheeshh! | |
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