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Thread started 04/27/07 9:57am

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Is Prince a member of free-masonry?

Sometimes he uses bizzzare symbolism...one of those is




which has got both the ever-seeing eye and the piramyd (or the compass),two strong masonic symbols.

Also, Charles Taze Russell , the founder of the Jehova witnesses movement, was a free-mason (you can easily find it out on the net)

Considering all of these points and the misterious aura around him, it's not hard to wonder that Prince can be possibly a member of free masonry, can't it be?
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Reply #1 posted 04/27/07 10:00am

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if he is, we all better start listerning to all his songs to find the holy Grail theres got to be a clue there somewhere
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Reply #2 posted 04/27/07 10:01am

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anything's possible.

Langdon did mention Prince in "Angels & Demons" and that's all about free-masons and stuff like that.

I wouldn't put it past him. He might very well have a "secret life" we don't know about.
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Reply #3 posted 04/27/07 10:02am

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DreamyPopRoyalty said:

anything's possible.

Langdon did mention Prince in "Angels & Demons" and that's all about free-masons and stuff like that.



Did he? what did he say about him?
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Reply #4 posted 04/27/07 10:08am

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feB said:

DreamyPopRoyalty said:

anything's possible.

Langdon did mention Prince in "Angels & Demons" and that's all about free-masons and stuff like that.



Did he? what did he say about him?


He listed Prince among a bunch of people that are only known by their first name.
I believe he referred to him as "Tau Cross With Intersecting Hermaphroditic Ankh". I first heard it on wikipedia and I looked it up in the book... I think it was on page 200 something, but I'm not completely sure.
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Reply #5 posted 04/27/07 10:13am

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DreamyPopRoyalty said:

feB said:



Did he? what did he say about him?


He listed Prince among a bunch of people that are only known by their first name.
I believe he referred to him as "Tau Cross With Intersecting Hermaphroditic Ankh". I first heard it on wikipedia and I looked it up in the book... I think it was on page 200 something, but I'm not completely sure.



correct But I thought it was the De vinci code ( i have read both books sometime ago and could be wrong)
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Reply #6 posted 04/27/07 10:13am

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wow..that would be cool if he was.
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #7 posted 04/27/07 10:16am

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oldpurple said:

DreamyPopRoyalty said:



He listed Prince among a bunch of people that are only known by their first name.
I believe he referred to him as "Tau Cross With Intersecting Hermaphroditic Ankh". I first heard it on wikipedia and I looked it up in the book... I think it was on page 200 something, but I'm not completely sure.



correct But I thought it was the De vinci code ( i have read both books sometime ago and could be wrong)


I looked it up in "Angels & Demons", I'm 100% positive. I've read both as well. And the DaVinci Code movie is awesome. Haha, now im in the mood for it.

It would be cool if Prince were secretly a free-mason. Supposedly the country's forefathers (Washington, Franklin), DaVinci (duh), and Sir Issac Newton were secretly free-masons. Prince does seem the type cool
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Reply #8 posted 04/27/07 10:21am

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what about the hands movement back when parade was released? secret hand signals !!!!!
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Reply #9 posted 04/27/07 3:50pm

Mag777

ok..what would be so 'cool' about it?? just out of curiousity..do they 'believe' in God??
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Reply #10 posted 04/27/07 3:53pm

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Mag777 said:

ok..what would be so 'cool' about it?? just out of curiousity..do they 'believe' in God??


Haha... im not quite sure.

The free-masons are sort of a "secret" society... mainly secret cuz somebody could be a member and nobody else would know it.

I don't remember exactly what the free-masons were about... but it'd be cool if Prince had this secret, double-life... adds to his mystery.
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Reply #11 posted 04/27/07 4:14pm

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Ok I think we are both right I think its in the film the symbol at least, but not the defination
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Reply #12 posted 04/27/07 6:29pm

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DreamyPopRoyalty said:


The free-masons are sort of a "secret" society... mainly secret cuz somebody could be a member and nobody else would know it.

I don't remember exactly what the free-masons were about... but it'd be cool if Prince had this secret, double-life... adds to his mystery.



There's a LOT of speculation going on about masonry...
actually any member can decide to say if he/she's a member or not, at least for those who join legal "lodges".
There are also lodges that are part of secret societies...obviously, because they are secret it's quite unclear what they are all about...but it's quite certain they tend to gain more power and power...

usually it is about mutual help in social ,political and economical life. in fact any lodge will have people from many aspect of public life, the more influent the better.

In many ways it's not different from the mafia way of acting: you please me, i please you...apart from the fact that there's a lot of spirituality involved in the process, or at least this is the front-face.

some examples of free-masonry are Illuminati (very famous after the da vinci code) and the P2 lodge, which in the 80's has been part of a huge financial crack-scandal here in italy.
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Reply #13 posted 04/27/07 7:34pm

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Oh yes, the Illuminati theory. Whenever this conversation has come up I hear Prince's name. The eye, the triangle, the New Power, the New World, the "cult" following, the androgeny... the list goes on.
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Reply #14 posted 04/27/07 7:48pm

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feB said:


Also, Charles Taze Russell , the founder of the Jehova witnesses movement, was a free-mason (you can easily find it out on the net)

That's a thread in of itself. As well as who started the mormons.
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Reply #15 posted 04/27/07 7:51pm

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hmmm
that would be interesting.
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Reply #16 posted 04/27/07 7:52pm

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1999 is probably his most masonic album. You guys realize the guy who started Freemasonry for Black people was named Prince Hall.
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Reply #17 posted 04/27/07 8:18pm

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Reply #18 posted 04/27/07 9:17pm

Mag777

ok..so once again..do they or dont they believe in God..or does it not matter either way??!!
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Reply #19 posted 04/27/07 9:18pm

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lilgish said:

1999 is probably his most masonic album. You guys realize the guy who started Freemasonry for Black people was named Prince Hall.

What's so'freemasonry' about the 1999 cd..just curious..thx!!
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Reply #20 posted 04/27/07 10:54pm

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Mag777 said:

ok..so once again..do they or dont they believe in God..or does it not matter either way??!!



they do believe in God, but not in a specific one. Basically anyone believes that there's a higher power but you don't need to call it the same way, what really matters is the "fraternal" mutual bondage.
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Reply #21 posted 04/27/07 11:02pm

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Reply #22 posted 04/28/07 1:07am

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shaedove99 said:

Oh yes, the Illuminati theory. Whenever this conversation has come up I hear Prince's name. The eye, the triangle, the New Power, the New World, the "cult" following, the androgeny... the list goes on.



dont forget the NPG
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Reply #23 posted 04/28/07 11:00am

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I really dont think he is a freemason.

I mean, i consider him some kind of 'cultural sponge' when it comes to incorporate various elements in his music and his message.

In the mid-nineties he seemed to have a big interest in things like: egyptian symbolism (the Ankh symbol is related to the Prince symbol, look at the cover and lyrics of the symbol-album) and alchemy (the whole 'panning for gold' idea of The Gold Experience, the ideas of reaching spiritual fullfilment expressed in the lyrics of Dolphin and Gold).

These are two kind of subjects which are also used a lot in the freemason movement, but it doesn't necessary mean Prince IS a freemason, i mean, on his eighties material his more spiritual lyrics mostly reflect regular christianity (The Cross, the ladder, Redemption from sin on Anna Stesia), spiced up with his more 'unusual' carnal interests, in the nineties he flirted with egyptology and the hermetic tradition, but for the last 7 years his spirituality seems to be filtered with the messages of the Jehovah Witnesses.

In short: the way he expresses his spirituality / ideas about life changes from time to time, and i consider his interest in subjects that are also important for the freemasons to be a temporarily thing.
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Reply #24 posted 04/28/07 11:04am

Riverpoet31

By the way, some evangelistic christians accused him of using 'satanic' elements in his Superbowl halftime performance (the lightening effects, the symbol-shaped stage, the penis-posing behind a curtain).... LOL
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Reply #25 posted 04/28/07 11:25am

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Riverpoet31 said:

I really dont think he is a freemason.

I mean, i consider him some kind of 'cultural sponge' when it comes to incorporate various elements in his music and his message.

In the mid-nineties he seemed to have a big interest in things like: egyptian symbolism (the Ankh symbol is related to the Prince symbol, look at the cover and lyrics of the symbol-album) and alchemy (the whole 'panning for gold' idea of The Gold Experience, the ideas of reaching spiritual fullfilment expressed in the lyrics of Dolphin and Gold).

These are two kind of subjects which are also used a lot in the freemason movement, but it doesn't necessary mean Prince IS a freemason, i mean, on his eighties material his more spiritual lyrics mostly reflect regular christianity (The Cross, the ladder, Redemption from sin on Anna Stesia), spiced up with his more 'unusual' carnal interests, in the nineties he flirted with egyptology and the hermetic tradition, but for the last 7 years his spirituality seems to be filtered with the messages of the Jehovah Witnesses.

In short: the way he expresses his spirituality / ideas about life changes from time to time, and i consider his interest in subjects that are also important for the freemasons to be a temporarily thing.

Thanks for this i remember hearing some where about one of these secret societies...getting knowledge etc..from Egypt etc..which in some cses would explain the similar, if not exact symbols..that have been used by Prince and the masons!! Either way, this is a good..yet interesting topic...i still want to know what's so Masonary..about the 1999 cd??
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Reply #26 posted 04/28/07 11:59am

Riverpoet31

Personally i dont see / hear any clear 'masonistic' references on the 1999 album, but maybe someone else has done some research on this subject.

By the way, i forgot to mention that in the mid-nineties Prince also seemed to have put his focus on the 'afro-american' movement: you can hear quite a lot of emphasis on lyrics about slavery and the threatment of afro-american people on albums like The symbol album, Chaos and Disorder, Exodus and Goldnigga.
Before that Prince never did put much emphasis on racial issues, maybe his problems with Warner Brothers did put him into the direction of literature and information on this subject.

The subject also turns up again on The Rainbow Children, by the way.
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Reply #27 posted 04/29/07 12:54pm

feB

Have a look....

THIS...



AND THIS ONE...



it's quite clear that there are some similarities!


i'm wondering if this might explain his ever-growing love 4 bucks! confused lol
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Reply #28 posted 04/29/07 6:27pm

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oldpurple said:

shaedove99 said:

Oh yes, the Illuminati theory. Whenever this conversation has come up I hear Prince's name. The eye, the triangle, the New Power, the New World, the "cult" following, the androgeny... the list goes on.



dont forget the NPG


nod Like I said the list goes on. People get real serious about this. I was in a conversation with someone once & they told me I should stay away from Prince's music. rolleyes If that's the case I'm already doomed so why stop now? razz

They also say this is a symbol of the Illuminati too: horns and the ank symbol which looks a lot like prince wink
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Reply #29 posted 04/30/07 3:27am

Tremolina

Why don't you guys ask him? lol
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