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Thread started 04/30/07 6:47pm

luvsexy4all

WHY such a delay and/or decrease in MUSIC?

Why has Prince returned to the old ways of 1 CD every year?

What about all the people who didnt spend money for Vegas?
They could be buying CD/DVD etc.

Is he trying to show that he can/will sell CDs regadless of the internet market or rec cos?
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Reply #1 posted 04/30/07 7:35pm

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One CD every year????? I *WISH* he would even return to being that prolific...
[Edited 4/30/07 19:36pm]
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Reply #2 posted 04/30/07 8:22pm

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jtfolden said:

One CD every year????? I *WISH* he would even return to being that prolific...
[Edited 4/30/07 19:36pm]


nod and wasn't that what the break from WB's was supposed to give us- MORE music??? wall
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Reply #3 posted 04/30/07 9:38pm

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paisley16 said:

nod and wasn't that what the break from WB's was supposed to give us- MORE music??? wall



I think by the time he was "free" he was essentially 'over it'... After Emancipation, it just sort of dribbled out. Certainly, there were several 'minor' projects available through limited channels but even protege releases came to a standstill...and gone were the days when album would follow album every 10-12 months.
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Reply #4 posted 04/30/07 10:52pm

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I've wondered about that also lately. I keep showing up here reading threads and looking for info on a new album but no such luck. I really wonder why he let all the steam from the superbowl performance go to waste without releasing anything. I especially wondered because I was hearing rumors that soon after something was most assuredly gonna drop.
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Reply #5 posted 05/01/07 2:44am

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well, lets see, he's been doing it 100 years and since he's changed as well as the landscape he's probably taking a new approach. maybe he knows he's mortal and at this stage in the game it takes longer to put together a cohesive strong album. no crime in that.
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Reply #6 posted 05/01/07 2:49am

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the break from WB came when he was still relatively young and actually believed he could put out 5 albums a year. like 32 year old atheletes who bitch about wanting a new deal for 8 years, they truly believe they can be productive till 40 when the orginization knows that wall (decline) is coming. prince is no different, his "wall" may have come later ( just look at all the "next" princes who have come and gone) but it was bound to happen. mortality, aint it a bitch-hey that's a new song title LOL write that one prince.
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Reply #7 posted 05/01/07 3:02am

cristina9

He's gotta b releasing summin on 07/07/07.Come on the guy lives 4 the number 7(just a tad dramatic).But what an oppurtunity.You ain't gonna get a date like that 4 a loooong time.He'd b crazy nnot 2.And in my opinion p would already have loads of kick ass songs,he probably writes a new 1 everyday.As easy as pie.He's waitin 4 summin(God hope).
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Reply #8 posted 05/01/07 7:07am

wlcm2thdwn

Oviously because he's doing other things, and music and radio today really stick. I think he's trying to find other ways to get his music out there.
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Reply #9 posted 05/01/07 7:27am

Flowerz

wlcm2thdwn said:

Oviously because he's doing other things, and music and radio today really stick. I think he's trying to find other ways to get his music out there.


He should stick to the internet .. maybe even sell it through MySpace.. (Can he do that?)
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Reply #10 posted 05/01/07 10:09am

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wlcm2thdwn said:

Oviously because he's doing other things, and music and radio today really stick. I think he's trying to find other ways to get his music out there.


It's not rocket science. It's called iTunes.
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Reply #11 posted 05/01/07 10:10am

jtfolden

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dreamshaman32 said:

the break from WB came when he was still relatively young and actually believed he could put out 5 albums a year. like 32 year old atheletes who bitch about wanting a new deal for 8 years, they truly believe they can be productive till 40 when the orginization knows that wall (decline) is coming. prince is no different, his "wall" may have come later ( just look at all the "next" princes who have come and gone) but it was bound to happen. mortality, aint it a bitch-hey that's a new song title LOL write that one prince.


Yeah, I think that all came under the umbrella of me saying "I think by the time he was "free" he was essentially 'over it'..."
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Reply #12 posted 05/01/07 10:44am

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jtfolden said:

dreamshaman32 said:

the break from WB came when he was still relatively young and actually believed he could put out 5 albums a year. like 32 year old atheletes who bitch about wanting a new deal for 8 years, they truly believe they can be productive till 40 when the orginization knows that wall (decline) is coming. prince is no different, his "wall" may have come later ( just look at all the "next" princes who have come and gone) but it was bound to happen. mortality, aint it a bitch-hey that's a new song title LOL write that one prince.


Yeah, I think that all came under the umbrella of me saying "I think by the time he was "free" he was essentially 'over it'..."


mad I want my one album a year!!!! To be honest, I just think he's been less "inspired" of late. Has there been any word of him working in the studio while in Vegas?
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Reply #13 posted 05/01/07 10:50am

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patience, people... i think the waiting will end soon.

i'm betting on it being well worth the wait.

g
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Reply #14 posted 05/01/07 10:56am

paisley16

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Giovanni777 said:

patience, people... i think the waiting will end soon.

i'm betting on it being well worth the wait.

g


well I sure hope so! then I will apologize for any ranting I've done. biggrin
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Reply #15 posted 05/01/07 10:57am

jtfolden

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Giovanni777 said:

patience, people... i think the waiting will end soon.

i'm betting on it being well worth the wait.

g


Isn't that the whole point of the thread? So much patience didn't used to be required because every time you turned around there was something new dropping.
lol
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Reply #16 posted 05/01/07 11:07am

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After a couple of weeks coming back from the 3121 shows I started to think about the fact no new songs were played at the shows. Not even a tease of a groove or mention of 'just y'all wait'

These days especially, I try to view his actions with very little expectations. I feel he's in a transition mode for some reason.

I personally miss "real" b sides. Not that much of a fan 5 mixes of a song treatment.
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Reply #17 posted 05/01/07 11:14am

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Rev said:

After a couple of weeks coming back from the 3121 shows I started to think about the fact no new songs were played at the shows. Not even a tease of a groove or mention of 'just y'all wait'

These days especially, I try to view his actions with very little expectations. I feel he's in a transition mode for some reason.

I personally miss "real" b sides. Not that much of a fan 5 mixes of a song treatment.


Maybe he doesn't want 2 show the new stuff yet.

...just a thought...
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #18 posted 05/01/07 11:47am

Flowerz

Prince has really spoiled his fans.. we look for new material every year.. the other artists put stuff out every 2-3 years lol.. but that's Prince's fault lol .. and now .. we need our new 'fix' and where is it? lol
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Reply #19 posted 05/01/07 12:03pm

paisley16

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Flowerz said:

.. and now .. we need our new 'fix' and where is it? lol


exactly!! where is it?!?!?!?!?!
fit wall
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Reply #20 posted 05/02/07 4:26am

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I think the big stumbling block for Prince releasing new music right now is he still hasn't settled on a way of distributing it to the maximum while retaining complete control. The fact is, he only had a one-album deal for 3121 and until he enters a new one-album deal with some record company he can't widely distribute any new album.

He tried putting his albums out for sale and download through his own site npgmc, but perhaps even he became frustrated with the numbers being limited to hard-core fans, since without a record label putting out advertising, only the fans knew about the new music. With Musicology he tried everything, it was available to buy and download from his own website, but it was also backed by a record company for world-wide distribution in record stores and promotion, plus he managed to use concert-giveaways as counting towards chart sales. Next was 3121, which was heavily pushed in the US by the record company and obtained a number one debut on the charts, but then sales dribbled away not least because it was not available for download anywhere. It seemed like Prince expected the record company to do more, but without Prince playing along it was a bit hard for them.

It seems clear that Prince does not want to compromise - he doesn't want Itunes taking a bite of his pie, he wants to have a hit around the world but without actually having to do much promotion personally, or allowing the record company to bribe their way onto radio station playlists. He wants world-wide distribution and promotion from a record company pushing very hard but without giving them even a percentage of the publishing rights or even guaranteeing a multi-album deal.

And I think this is the reason for the slow up in new music, he would still like to push against the usual music machine process and do something innovative that benefits him and leads the way, but he hasn't figured yet where to go. He is taking his time, and without any deals he has no deadlines, I actually wish he did have some deadlines, it might motivate him to get on with things a bit more!
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Reply #21 posted 05/02/07 4:52am

vinaysfunk

I agree with the control over his music and stuff but damn it's about the music in the end? I am tired of waiting for him to get his panties on right. He's done fine in the music industry doing it his way for the last 4 years, enough waiting already. It's sad and I am ashamed to amdmit I have been a fan for 25 years and I have been spoiled. I was just thinking the other day it's ways too long of a wait and I can't take it! Hurry up P funk us and tour already.
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Reply #22 posted 05/02/07 5:27am

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Rev said:

After a couple of weeks coming back from the 3121 shows I started to think about the fact no new songs were played at the shows. Not even a tease of a groove or mention of 'just y'all wait'

These days especially, I try to view his actions with very little expectations. I feel he's in a transition mode for some reason.

I personally miss "real" b sides. Not that much of a fan 5 mixes of a song treatment.


he's played some new songs at 3121
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Reply #23 posted 05/02/07 5:42am

christos7

metalorange said:

It seems clear that Prince does not want to compromise - he doesn't want Itunes taking a bite of his pie, he wants to have a hit around the world but without actually having to do much promotion personally, or allowing the record company to bribe their way onto radio station playlists. He wants world-wide distribution and promotion from a record company pushing very hard but without giving them even a percentage of the publishing rights or even guaranteeing a multi-album deal.


...and he'll probably want another couple of camels at 3 o'clock in the morning... rolleyes

He wants 2 have his cake and eat it 2.. I think his main stumbling block is his own pride, and GREED.
Whatever he choses 2 do, chances r most of us will have access 2 any new release or even pre-release thru a simple P2P file sharing plat4m, and THEN decide whether 2 buy it.
Anyhow, I aint holding my breath.Good luck 2 him. U gotta admire his perseverance. FREE THE MUSIC woot! lol
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Reply #24 posted 05/02/07 7:24am

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wlcm2thdwn said:

Oviously because he's doing other things, and music and radio today really stick. I think he's trying to find other ways to get his music out there.


How about a"door 2 door" delivery service. He could knock on my door anyday and i'd buy what he had to sell.

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Reply #25 posted 05/02/07 8:59am

Rev

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ElCapitan said:

Rev said:

After a couple of weeks coming back from the 3121 shows I started to think about the fact no new songs were played at the shows. Not even a tease of a groove or mention of 'just y'all wait'

These days especially, I try to view his actions with very little expectations. I feel he's in a transition mode for some reason.

I personally miss "real" b sides. Not that much of a fan 5 mixes of a song treatment.


he's played some new songs at 3121



I was speaking of the w/e I was there, not in total. "Guitar" is what came to mind. Which songs has he played though?
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Reply #26 posted 05/02/07 9:04am

Rev

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metalorange said:

I think the big stumbling block for Prince releasing new music right now is he still hasn't settled on a way of distributing it to the maximum while retaining complete control. The fact is, he only had a one-album deal for 3121 and until he enters a new one-album deal with some record company he can't widely distribute any new album.

He tried putting his albums out for sale and download through his own site npgmc, but perhaps even he became frustrated with the numbers being limited to hard-core fans, since without a record label putting out advertising, only the fans knew about the new music. With Musicology he tried everything, it was available to buy and download from his own website, but it was also backed by a record company for world-wide distribution in record stores and promotion, plus he managed to use concert-giveaways as counting towards chart sales. Next was 3121, which was heavily pushed in the US by the record company and obtained a number one debut on the charts, but then sales dribbled away not least because it was not available for download anywhere. It seemed like Prince expected the record company to do more, but without Prince playing along it was a bit hard for them.

It seems clear that Prince does not want to compromise - he doesn't want Itunes taking a bite of his pie, he wants to have a hit around the world but without actually having to do much promotion personally, or allowing the record company to bribe their way onto radio station playlists. He wants world-wide distribution and promotion from a record company pushing very hard but without giving them even a percentage of the publishing rights or even guaranteeing a multi-album deal.

And I think this is the reason for the slow up in new music, he would still like to push against the usual music machine process and do something innovative that benefits him and leads the way, but he hasn't figured yet where to go. He is taking his time, and without any deals he has no deadlines, I actually wish he did have some deadlines, it might motivate him to get on with things a bit more!



Good point
I think this what I couldn't put my finger on in saying "transition". I'm sure how many of us don't try to 'have our cake and eat it too'. I know I do.
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Reply #27 posted 05/02/07 11:41am

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jtfolden said:

One CD every year????? I *WISH* he would even return to being that prolific...
[Edited 4/30/07 19:36pm]


I am all for having an orger raid on the vaults at Paisley Park. Then we can release the music...eh consider it a favor we'd be doing for Prince.
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Reply #28 posted 05/02/07 11:41am

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I don't care if it takes him 10 more years just as long as the music is inspired this time...
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Reply #29 posted 05/02/07 11:54am

sexxydancer

Perhaps he's just uninspired right now. neutral
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